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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#1581
*by asking me to post what I didn't post

the first sentence should say.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18246 Posts
June 22 2012 17:34 GMT
#1582
On June 23 2012 02:13 talismania wrote:
It would be hilarious if deconduo is scum and almost completely got himself killed by asking me to post what I posted. Maybe that's how you win with scum, do something incredibly stupid and against your wincon, have it fail for completely accidental reasons, and then get enormous towncred when everyone figures out why you couldn't have done what you did if you were scum.

Regardless it feels like we're lynching a townie but at least we get to see what nisani's role pm is I guess.

It would actually be really funny if the game just ends because nisani already met a wincon once he dies O.O Maybe that's why he's keen on being offed.

Agreed, but lynching Nisani is a waste of a lynch, other than discovering his role pm and getting rid of someone who can completely screw over town. He's playing like a 3rd party and I don't trust him to nominate a king in any way that helps town.

So that means Maju's scumbuddy is hiding in these 4 people: DB, hyaach, ghost and xkslskls

We HAVE to narrow this group down asap. As you said, the happy 3rd parties could flip to help scum at any time it suits their wincon better. The easiest way of finding scum in a group of scummy people is by lynching into them. In this case, it's basically a "free" lynch, because we HAVE to kill Nisani (or scum). If, at this point, Nisani was already dead, I would probably prefer to lynch ghost than any of the other people in the group (including DB), but killing ghost might just give us a survivor kill and leave Nisani alive to wreak havoc.

I also have a tricky plan on how to narrow down the options at night, using the claimed roles. I need to think through all the implications, but I think it works out pretty well. I'll think it through and post it after the nightpost.

And yes, DB, my reads tend to be pretty hit and miss. I'm working on learning to read people (in HR I was pretty good (except for Drazerk), in Newbie VIII I was terrible, as Hiro can attest. Those are my 2 most recent games).
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 22 2012 17:40 GMT
#1583
Yeah I'm totally going to wreck king havok if i am left alive, so i can... erm... Avoid my loss condition.
Enjoy your day.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18246 Posts
June 22 2012 17:48 GMT
#1584
Nisani, you said your other wincon was to kill all anti-town. Want to give us your reads?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
June 22 2012 18:00 GMT
#1585
Long live the King(maker)!
[image loading]



Town was a fuss. Everyone still wanted DropBear dead, but Nisani201 was the priority. DropBear kept on blabbing about how he would kill whoever tried to kill him.

They started to reveal themselves. Acrofales said to be BioSC's assassin. HiroPro and strongandbig claimed to be allies, while Hyaach said he stopped Nisani201 from making a king.
While most people believed in each other, the doubt paired in the air. Someone - or some people - had to be lying. Otherwise the "game" would be over already.

As the counter switched to 00:01:00, Nisani201 stepped forward to the TV screen. It turned on, and this time it was Scar - from Lion King - who was answering it.
"So... who are you lynching?" he said with despise.
"I'll kill DropBear." The target, with a clearly angry face, stepped forward. He didn't show any signs of real aggressivity, but he was angry. "You'll die, Nisani. You know that." he said.

"Very well." Scar then made a circle using one of his fingers, and then pointed towards DropBear. A red smoke came out of the television, and entered DropBear's body. He was standing still.
And then a scream.

DropBear opened his mouth, high pitched sound coming out of it, and the smoke went straight to Nisani201, who started to melt. Right afterwards, so did DropBear. "I'm sorry..." were his last words. Soon enough, only a pool of a red goo was left in the room.

Everyone was in shock, as their descriptions appeared over the goo. The counter switched to 24:00:00. The night had begun, and two townies had just died.




All flavor is just flavor

Nisani201
, the Monarchist Activist has been killed vengefully!

RolePM:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
You are the Monarchist Activist
Each night, starting with N0, you may PM the hosts the name of a player. That player will be the King on the next day. He becomes an asshole and lynches whoever the hell he wants, regardless of majority. He doesn't know he is an asshole, nor that he is the King, but the person he votes will be lynched. You can't make the same player a King twice, and you can't be enough of an asshole to crown yourself. There are people who want you dead, and there are people who know you exist.

You win when all anti-town elements are destroyed. You also get an extra win if a King lynches an anti-town player. You get an extra loss if the Anti-Monarchy Activist kills you.


DropBear, the Vengeful Townie has been lynched!
RolePM:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
You are a Vengeful Townie
You are mad. If you are lynched, you kill the last voter. You also burnt down your ex-gf's house.

You win when all the anti-Town elements are destroyed.


Night 2 has begun.
Deadline is [unparsable timestamp format].
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18246 Posts
June 22 2012 18:03 GMT
#1586
Okay, I have some choice words for Nisani when this game is over. Seriously, WTF
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18246 Posts
June 22 2012 18:04 GMT
#1587
Dammit Nisani, you're an IDIOT. Your role pm says "THE anti-monarchist activist". You already AVOIDED your loss-con. /facepalm
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 22 2012 18:05 GMT
#1588
But I don't ...

why...

=/
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 22 2012 18:05 GMT
#1589
Lolololol, MA was a town role.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18246 Posts
June 22 2012 18:06 GMT
#1590
Hrmmm, how did the first post of those two get posted? I thought I cleared the text field, not hit post. Beer is bad kids, beer is bad.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 22 2012 18:06 GMT
#1591
On June 23 2012 03:04 Acrofales wrote:
Dammit Nisani, you're an IDIOT. Your role pm says "THE anti-monarchist activist". You already AVOIDED your loss-con. /facepalm


hahahaha
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 22 2012 18:07 GMT
#1592
On June 23 2012 03:05 HiroPro wrote:
Lolololol, MA was a town role.


No it was a pretty big scum role even if he did win with town
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 22 2012 18:08 GMT
#1593
dear lord.

he could have just made town players king and we wouldn't have to worry about lylo or any of that nonsense.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18246 Posts
June 22 2012 18:08 GMT
#1594
Okay, how about this plan for the night actions. We have a claimed RB and a claimed DT. Both are currently on my "probably scum with Maju"-list, together with Ghost.

So the following night actions allow us to eliminate some of the possibilities:
xkksslsls checks Hyaach
Hyaach roleblocks Ghost

Lets go through the possible outcomes:

If ghost is scum, then the NK is roleblocked (unless he's extra-lying about his role and he has an action in addition to his role, but this is true regardless of who is roleblocked. Regular scumhunting has to augment the role-based reads)
If Hyaach is scum, then he is getting checked. If xksksksksc is roleblocked then Hyaach gets lynched, otherwise we take the cop info along in our scumhunting.

That eliminates a number of scenarios. Lets go through the outcomes:

1. xllslsks says Hyaach is red and there is no NK: WIFOM central! Ignore everything and back to scumhunting
2. xñsñslñss says Hyaach is green and there is no NK: we lynch ghost and win the game
3. xkxklxlks says Hyaach is red and there is a NK: Hyaach and xksksks are prime suspects, ghost less so (but still possible)
4. xlxlxlx says Hyaach is green and there is a NK: WIFOM central! Ignore everything and back to scumhunting

As far as I could figure out, this combo of night actions gives us the best shot at downright nailing a scum and a decent shot at narrowing down the options. Not saying it's the best, just that I can't think of a better option.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 22 2012 18:10 GMT
#1595
Did Nisani even get an extra win? Cause KB wasn't technically anti-town.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18246 Posts
June 22 2012 18:10 GMT
#1596
On June 23 2012 03:07 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 03:05 HiroPro wrote:
Lolololol, MA was a town role.


No it was a pretty big scum role even if he did win with town

No. He could have used it as either. Him being town he could have used it as town. The AMA was DEAD. We could have discussed who should be king the next day. It's like having a mayor election every night, except Nisani gets to decide if town is being derps.

Even if scum keeps hitting the king, it reverts to plurality lynch, so /shrug.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18246 Posts
June 22 2012 18:11 GMT
#1597
On June 23 2012 03:10 HiroPro wrote:
Did Nisani even get an extra win? Cause KB wasn't technically anti-town.

KB was technically anti-town. Read his role pm.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 22 2012 18:12 GMT
#1598
does RB block night kill? I would think it would just block the bulletproof.

Also, do you really think maju was bussing when he posted his case on fourface? Was he just being clever, hoping that the case would never build any momentum?

Third party people: will you help us if the last scum claims? It will end the game much more quickly and you still get to win :-) :-) :-)
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 22 2012 18:13 GMT
#1599
But that just says he checks anti-town to DTs. His name isn't actually red.

Was KharadBanar anti-town
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18246 Posts
June 22 2012 18:13 GMT
#1600
Also, DB was the only guy who might have been a vanilla townie posing as something else. Drazerk is confirmed town! Gratz Drazerk!
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