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On June 25 2012 18:05 Drazerk wrote:
Well its much better than a no brain sacrificial lamb vote at any rate and I've been paranoid about the mason pair considering just how broken that role really is and I can't imagine anyone using it without some major drawback involved.
S+B wants to stay alive the most so I want to kill him first so... ##vote strongandbig
If scum was hanging on their KP last night they are basically forced to do it again anyway so it shouldn't matter that much delaying the sacrificial lambs
This is super fishy. Why would scum hold their KP again tonight?
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On June 25 2012 22:30 xsksc wrote:
I don't see why you care about dying, you still win when Hiro lives right? Nobody has a reason to kill him, or they'd have done it already...besides why should we care if you win or not? The fact you're so paranoid about dying just gives us more reason to kill you lol.
Christ, how many fucking times do I have to explain this? My win condition is for me or hiro to survive. I will not do anything the goes against that, and letting myself get lynched clearly goes against that. Especially since unless it's mod confirmed that there is no third-party-hunting role in the game, letting myself get lynched opens the door to me losing, when I would win if I survived.
Also why are you discounting the possibility that Hyaach is a miller? There doesn't have to be a framer still in the game for your check to be wrong.
Look guys no one has any reason to believe I'm anything other than what I say I am. The only evidence anyone has put forward is "he doesn't want to die lol", which is directly my wincon. The only reason acro has for trying to kill me is "numbers", but numbers dictate you need to be trying to kill scum.
By getting rid of the scum KP you give yourselves a lot more time to work through everything else, if the game even continues.
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I agree with Tali and Decon. There's something like a 98% chance that either xk or hyaach are scum, we can't just ignore that.
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Also my flavor interpretation points towards xksc and ghost having fake claimed. Minor point but still, it's something imo.
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On June 26 2012 03:36 Drazerk wrote:
A check on S+B / hiro is worthless
We already have a DT check on me so its also worthless
What dt check on you?
And a dt check on either of us would come back as "not anti-town."
You could even rng which one of us to check so if we have a magical modconfirmed-not-in-the-game framer they wouldn't know who to check!
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Ummmmmmmm srsly?
It was in my little pony mafia.
I just used the TL search engine but restricted it to mafia subgroup.
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At this point you've crossed the line into willful ignorance.
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How many times do I have to explain every little thing? Professor badass was a hydra, neutral surviving balrog was a famous fakeclaim. I'm not saying Forumite had some kind of system, I'm saying that all our role names come from TL mafia lore or inside jokes.
As for yours, I'll check it out when I get a chance but maybe you're fake claiming also, but I haven't looked into it yet. Do your own friggen dirty work.
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On June 26 2012 16:03 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 05:47 strongandbig wrote:
At this point you've crossed the line into willful ignorance. Lets just agree to disagree. I don't think you're right and I think it is a really fucked up reason to think someone's scummy. It's speculation about the mindset of the mod when he made the game. There's plenty of other reasons to suspect xsksc. I don't like Hyaach's absense at all either. xsksc: other than the red check, what makes Hyaach scum? Hyaach: what makes xsksc scum? Gogogo!
Sorry, that came across as harsher than I intended. I just got really tired of having to explain the same thing over and over again yesterday.
Of course we shouldn't find xk to be scum just based on the role name thing, since this is a bastard game and it's entirely possible that his name is the only one that doesn't fit the pattern just to troll us.
I just think that given we find him to be potential scum, it's a useful piece of info, especially since it turned out to be correct that ghost was faking a role name.
Anyway we should 100% for sure by lynching either xk or Hyaach tomorrow, and hopefully no one will be trying to distract us again with other lynches.
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Acro if xkcd and Hyaach are both town then why would xkcd's check on Hyaach be red?
Acrofales for traitor anyone?
##vote: hyaach
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Drazerk I'd be down for an acrofales lynch.
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He would have been a reasonable hit target that night there was no kill.
And after that he started being all "trololol let's stop trying to lynch one of the obvious scum here and kill a third party instead!"
Like look at his switch from me to ghost, he just wanted to kill any third party, he didn't actually care about finding scum. He didn't even bother to make cases.
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If there is a traitor then this is LYLO.
If not then LYLO is tomorrow.
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Anyone feel like lynching Drazerk for not giving anfuck?
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Acrofales! Are you finally listening to the voice of reason? Let's lynch Drazerk!
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What, it's over? No limericks?
I was pretty sure Hyaach actually was the last scum, but I thought acrofales or drazerk was traitor... I thought there was no way so much anti-town could really be town... T_T
Yeah Hiro you played way more pro-town than I did lol. After the Chezinu stuff I thought you were either going to get shot or lynched, hence the badass breadcrumbs I put together.
My plan was to tunnel Drazerk, that way I get to (a) look town, (b) not threaten the mafia and get shot, and (c) get to yell at Drazerk. :p
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Oh also why wasn't there a Vanilla Townie or a Vanilla Townie or a Vanilla Townie?
Also also I think Drazerk should be warned on the banlist thread for not reading his role PM. I know I was tunneling him anyway but this is post-game 100% honest, I don't think that should be okay with people. But that's up to the hosts so this is the last I'll say of it.
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Well if that's the case then cool and that's fine.
I really thought the planar dragon reference in the OP was a hint that the "vanilla townie" might not be all it seemed...
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Yeah I knew at the time that the odds were very small I was right about the anti-survivor third party; but Hyaach did just say that he would have shot hiro out of pure spite after I got lynched so it turns out I was right and if I'd let you lynch me or hiro we would have lost.
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