EPTI will not be modkilled
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Pandain
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I will not be modkilled | ||
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Because I will. + Show Spoiler + Please? | ||
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VE is almost certainly town. There's a small chance he's a badass serial killer, but for him to have claimed(vulnerable to counterclaims) requires an element of risk which I do not think the SK would use. There is almost certainily not 2 millers in this setup, as having two "false" townies, as well as all the other Alignment-Confusing roles would just decimate the cop's role. Since the risk of being counterclaimed would be so damning, I do not think that VE would have claimed miller if he was mafia/SK. Especially so soon as the day started. Furer is just playing poorly, but his play does not reek of scum. He voted rashly against VE, the very first(and only) vote so far. I do not think mafia would risk bringing so much attention to themselves. He's not only single handedly try to lynch VE, but he's done it with a reckless aura that excludes mafia. I think Mr. Zentor is very suspicious, and should be looked at instead. He's offered very weak arguments, suggesting he does not want to force his opinion onto the town. He's offered vague statements that do not really put himself out there("a bit rash", "would probably", "I think, but we should") which do not prove him being mafia but merely cause me to be watchful. I am also somewhat suspicious of Navillus, but it is more of a general feeling than specific evidence. | ||
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More importantly, its the way that he's accusing. It feels like he's trying to make an argument rather than find scum, as all his arguments start out with the mindset that he is scum. Case in point is Mr. Z, where he refers to him being scum on the basis of "he didn't have the balls to"... etc.... That's a really common scum mistake imo. Scum tries so hard to make a case that they end up being aggressive on a personal level, almost condenscending. Townies could act that way, but only if it was part of a larger, more intense debate. ##Vote Blazinghand | ||
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I do care about you though. And even if you don't get lynched, I will shoot you. + Show Spoiler + Realize I accidently claimed blue, and my role isn't important enough to justify having medic protection I'm vigilante. | ||
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gl | ||
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On June 06 2012 11:18 Blazinghand wrote: dude you are aware there are like RBs and shit in this game But that's the beautiful part. I fake claim every game I play. Mafia honestly don't know if I'm telling the truth or not. I may be fucking batshit, or I may be honest. If I'm telling the truth, and they roleblock me, then a.) We find out information about you(why would they protect you) b.) They don't roleblock a medic/detective. If I'm lying, they just roleblocked a regular dude and wasted a power. | ||
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If masons exist, they're basically either auto-confirmed town, or they're both mafia. Either way, it gives us a whole load of information. I don't think they do exist, as it already seems imbalanced to me in a 12 person setup, but the fact remains that that kind of information is invaluable to us. | ||
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1.We have more info in lynching 2. Amount of potential mafia is lowered 3. we have confirmed townies to help analyze around 4. Mafia can't organize a planned joint claim later on Honestly, confirmed town are better than blues in alot of ways. Probably better than all of them except the Cop. But even the cop has a role twisted by possible RBer's, framers, godfathers, and serial killers, and millers. Again, two confirmed town. In a setup of 12 people. Right at the start. Just admit I'm right BH. | ||
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It really depends on whether masons claim, and if I have enough information to justify a N1 shot. We'll see. | ||
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Why Now is Better than N1 [b]1. Blue roles will have more information in executing their actions. There will be 2 less chances for each blue role to waste a check/shot/roleblock on a townie. Times that by the amount of power roles we have and that is a significant deal. We won't be able to do that if they claim at the very end of N1. 2. We have more information. This is good, not just becuase we won't lynch the masons, but for all the information that springs out of confirmed townies. Your right, BH, confirmed townies aren't 100% right. But the fact is that they aren't scum, and that lets us make sure town runs the scene, not scum. I'd rather have an idiot town help guide town than any scum. Masons getting shot = more blue roles able to do stuff. Blues(if even that) getting shot = we still have confirmed townie. Basically we'll have more information, and now. We already (are pretty sure) that VE is a miller, I'm a vig, if we have tow additional masons that = 4/12 people already accounted for! Then factor in individual analysis and guesswork! That's a HUGE deal in lynch one! | ||
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On June 06 2012 11:41 Blazinghand wrote: "oh wow blazinghand is really smart and pandain is not nearly as cool / sexy as blazinghand" yeah I know it's pretty clear isn't it. ^^ | ||
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Same goes with me. In regards to additional blue roles, masons aren't really a blue role. I doubt there are masons in this setup, but that doesn't mean we won't have an additional blue role. Masons aren't a power role. They were never even meant to be used in the way I'm envisioning them to. | ||
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To address VE shortly, however, you can refer to my earlier posts to see where I slipped my role, its even been quoted and pointed out. You can try to lynch me, though. To commence, from this little barrage of posts I've analyzed more people. I think VE is more likely town. Navillus has attempted to(rightfully) steer discussion back onto owhere we should be discussing, which was definitely the town thing to do. Mafia would either want to take a stand on the mason issue, or simply not post. Navillus acting as such strikes me as town. I'm also very suspicious of Zellblade, as he's hardly posted at all. In fact, hilariously enough, he's just asked interogative questions. Which I find hilarious and will do one day. | ||
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I appreciate the talk on me, however. Might as well get some new discussion going. Here, lets make things interesting and force people in. ##Unvote BlazingHand ##Vote Pandain | ||
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Address Navillus, make a formal case on me. | ||
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And while your at it, I'd like to see a good analysis from you on BH. | ||
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Can't believe you lynched me, but tells alot. Look at ghost, BH, Zellblade Then next Artanis, Hyaach, Zentor Katrina, shaft,Navillus VE are town. | ||
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It'll help you for future games. This was a horrible lynch, but gl guys | ||
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And its false to say I derailed lynch discussion, I strengenthed it. Way more people talked, and (ironically enough) with my death you guys have more information than two days worth. If I would've lived, this would've been a great achievement for me. But alas internet is the vehicle of technology, and it ran out of gas. I made BH talk way more, and had him reveal more information about himself(threatened to be killed + lynched) than we probably would have seen from him in a while. Big change from his previous hours. And if you honestly think I'm scum, then you need to rethink this game. And you need to remember what I told you, which is something I learned from Foolishness many games ago. People do stupid stuff(in my case I don't think it's stupid, but that's subjective and can be proven after the game.) Bad townies =/= scum. Playing shady does NOT equal scummy! How did I play scummy? "Derailed town arguments" false "Tried to get power roles to claim" They're fucking masons man, and they would be two confirmed town. Even a cop couldn't do that for at least four days. | ||
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I'm living as hard as I can. I don't feel there's enough support for BH, so I'm going to push for another suspicious individual, Hyaach. ##Unvote Pandain ##Vote Hyaach | ||
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1. Mafia would never claim vigi, and they wouldn't have let a bandwagon slip up on me so easily(when before, the lynches on BH didn't incite a bandwagon like this). There would have been some sort of counter vote planned. a. Brings unneccesary attention, doesn't actually help mafia at all(Doesn't gain town cred, merely brings attention to me) b. Could've been counterclaimed(Super suspicion) 2. Notice the lack of resistance, and a lack of a counter vote which ALWAYS happens, even if slightly. Usually they try to stack up on people. Unless its 100% obvious but I'm far, far , FAR from that assumption. 3. Really, the only possibility is that I am SK. But why would SK do that. It brings me to the attention of mafia, and town. Sure, it may provide cover for shootings, but vigilantes have limited shooting ability while SK is unlimited. I would've been 90% auto found out within a number of days. a. Also, I would probably be checked, and found guilty. b. If I instead had decided to pick Appear Innocent, I would be vulnerable to getting shot. And as I've said before, I'm heavily urging medics NOT to protect me, so claiming actually wouldn't have helped at ALL. What I did was suspicious. I don't deny that. But its not at all scum | ||
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On June 07 2012 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Pandain, you can't blame us for lynching you this day. We were analyzing players based on posts and then you came in saying "oh hey guys I'm vigilante also if there's masons they should claim because it's great for town. Can we talk about that instead of doing actual scumhunting please?" If for some reason you are in fact town, then you've played an anti-town game as you broke a good town atmosphere. No you weren't. I was the one who stopped you guys from being suspicious of Kips when he was obviously town. I tried to direct the discussion, and when I needed to I claimed. And don't talk about the mason discussion derailing town, that's a retarded argument. Scum don't actively derail town discussion. In fact, they don't often at all. Instead they just let bad discussion go onwards. They don't put themselves in the spotlight. That's an incredibly important point for you guys to realize. Lynching me because I "derailed town" is both subjective, false, and weak as an argument. | ||
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Do you find hyaach suspicious VE? Please, please, realize the lack of a counter wagon, how everything is going without mafia interference(I'm only one trying to stop it.) When that occurs, its mostly likely town. It could be SK, but again, I've proved that point false. | ||
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Stop trying to justify and apologize, saying that there's nothing you can do. Debate my arguments, don't say "you looked SO scummy". That's suspicious in itself, but if you are town, I ask you to please pick who you think is most likely scum. Not who played the most shady. | ||
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On June 07 2012 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote: You haven't proven anything false Pandain, why could you not be an SK in this situation? READ THE POST WHERE YOU SAID I SLIPPED I DONT HAVE TIME GOD DAMN IT THIS IS THE MOST OBVIOUS TOWN LYNCH OF ALL TIME | ||
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On June 07 2012 06:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Wait, you needed to claim? What made you need to claim exactly? And no, scum don't want lynch discussion even if people are being wrongly accused because discussion generates information. Scum does not want town to have information. It is in scum's best interest to not talk about lynches at all times because it means there will be less reads available. I've generated more discussion than any town would! Scum don't play like this! Claiming, without any benefits, just to claim? That's retarded! Please ARtanis, realize this. Please. | ||
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God damn it | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Fuck you internet. | ||
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