Emergency Mini Mafia!

On June 05 2012 12:08 zelblade wrote:


Why would it take "huge balls" to claim if he is town?

Why would you let him live for only "a day"?

Why would you put his analysis specifically to be dismembered and examined just because his is immune to checks? Does this mean you think this claim is suspicious?

On June 07 2012 03:36 Snarfs wrote:
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Specifically, I believe Hyaach is scum:

This looks very much like scum trying to justify a reason for hopping on a bus.
Pandain wasn't "fishing" for information when he asked masons to claim, he was straight up asking masons to claim.
Also, saying he could very likely be an SK as well seems to be searching for an excuse for Pandain not to be scum.

Hyaach seems to know whether Pandain is scum or town and is making up reasons to either bandwagon or bus him. His voting seems very forced and I can only justify it from a scum perspective.

##Vote Hyaach

Now, that being said, I believe that no lynches more often than not favour scum and I know it's late to bring up a new target, so if noone else sees what I do here, I'd be willing to switch to an alternative to ensure we get information from our day 1 lynch.

On June 06 2012 11:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Alright, if we believe Pandain's claim, then why don't we follow up with my course of action: We lynch MrZ (or maybe Navi if he seems scummier). If MrZ flips town, sure, shoot me. But I think he's gonna flip scum.

On June 06 2012 11:55 Blazinghand wrote:


"MrZ and Navi are suspicious. MrZ because of the way he posts"




"MrZ hasn't posted enough for me to care about"


???? contradiction?

On June 07 2012 07:55 Blazinghand wrote:


I appreciate that you're trying to be helpful, but don't give me the benefit of the doubt. I mean, I personally like it when people agree with me, but giving people the benefit of the doubt is dangerous. Don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt-- don't ever impair your scumhunting. If you feel there's something wrong with someone's play, either make note of it and address your read accordingly or air it with the town- we'll be better off for it.

On June 08 2012 19:29 Shraft wrote:
Hyaach's posting is really messy and, it seems, a bit confused. There's not really much to analyze.
Only thing that stuck out to me when I read his filter was this:

which seems like an easy thing to say to appear pro town without having to do much. (He is not promising analysis, just saying that he will examine VE's posts, which means that he doesn't have to make any follow-up on this statement.) Either way, he has promised analysis and I'm waiting eagerly.

furerkip seems like a bad Epicmafia townie to me. He plays exactly like the townies over there, speaking about "having mislynches", calling VT's "blues", saying that scumslips = scummy play, and speaking about "three way lynches" (a situation much more common in Epicmafia games than in forum mafia). He could maybe be Mafia, but I think that his aggressive posting is quite out of place for a first time (forum) Mafia player.

On June 08 2012 19:59 zelblade wrote:
Since snarfs asked here are my thoughts on ghost.

I dont think that ghost is scum for now. He has been making (what I feel are valid) accusations against both furekip and zentor. I am somewhat certain furekip is scum from the no. of mafia thing, and whilst it is possible, dont think that ghost would push furekip that early and dump some suspision on him when most of the thread felt he was probably town. Of course this read is a little weak due to furekip's alignment being in question in itself but I am quite certain that furekip will flip scum.

Regarding hyaach I found his first post coming off as a little off, which is primilarly why I questioned it. Might have been due to the fact the post was somewhat unclear, but I did find him saying that claiming miller (optimal move imo) took "balls" a littler wierd. Its wierd that he tries to push attention onto me + furekip when snarfs calls him out of lurking. I also highly doubt scum would RB him and its actually more likely that hyaach got JK'd.

On June 08 2012 13:37 Hyaach wrote:
Ive only skimp the first post and these last post. Its mainly about rb and claim. If it meant anything i would like to point iut i was rbed too.
Btw i said i will give read i ard 5 hour. Why so eagar to drive attention away from the thread? U could always do it when i didnt fullfill my claim

On June 08 2012 19:08 Hyaach wrote:
If anyone read, I got RB last night.
2 reason. I've been read as scum and was thought I would be doing the kill last night. Are you for real?
Mafia RBed me to frame me which means people who were FoS-ing me are highly suspicious.

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Just this line in case people really thought of giving BH the credit of pushing the fake vig claim by Pandain.



Then this line directly contradicts himself again. Seems like his using everything Pandain said to make an easy case where Pandain looks scummy to lynch him off.






This post is actually nothing but restating that fact. Never blindly trust everyone but wait, what's the message underneath it, it makes towns want to trust him because of the fact that his is "transparent" with his play.

Look through his cases. it is on the easiest targets. the lurkers or people who most people agree are suspicious. that's not very telling of his alignment.

I finds his day one post not deserving of a JK from town. Can anyone find any reason his a better RB target then others?

Speaking of game mechanic and night action. Zelblade came back and ask another string of question about the night actions. Making himself seem useful but not contributing at the same time.

On June 09 2012 10:29 zelblade wrote:
Hey so bh why has your posting style changed so much?

Also I wouldn't mind lynching mrz but I want to get this hyaach bh shit settled today.

On June 09 2012 00:03 zelblade wrote:
Actually one last post before I go.

Main reason I trusted BH's claim was that I didnt think that he would do it as scum. Why? Assuming that he is scum, he basically played it out such that his team RB'd hyaach, knowing that hyaach could be blamed for the NK given how scummy he is, and use the mafia's factional KP as a "vig shot". However, in this case, since he could not have predicted a roleblock on him, unless you are of course suggesting mafia held their shot (which has never been done on tlmafia btw last I checked bar 3-1 mylo situations), means that if BH was mafia and made this plan he would basically force a 1-1 trade with hyaach since one of them had to be scum in that case.

He could have pulled the SK card after mislynching hyaach in this case, but it was very unlikely that it would have worked considering how he didnt exactly look stellar either. Scum probably isnt willing to pull off this sort of trade d2. (I THINK)

There are a lot of things regarding BH that seem off to me though, will explain more on that tomorrow.

On June 06 2012 11:54 Blazinghand wrote:

We don't have a vigi AND masons AND an additional blue role and you know it.



Given that the lynch seems to have consolidated onto me (or navi), I'd be very, very surprised if a mason somehow revealing themselves would change things today, unless Navi or me are masons, in which case my idea of "don't claim D1 unless you're gonna get lynched" applies quite well.


Right... but one of these two things is gonna happen ANYWAYS. all that claiming NOW does is let scum choose which one. Claiming now is terrible.



1) Whether or not VE is scummy is a function of his play, not his claim.
2) We don't know you're a vigi at the moment, as you yourself have said.
3) all of this works just as well with masons claiming N1 unless a mason is gonna get lynched, in which case they shoudl claim.


MASONS: don't listen to pandain. Don't claim D1 unless you're gonna get lynched.

Alright I'm gonna head to bed. I'll be back several hours before the lynch, but remember that a vote for me is a vote that says "Mafia either shot or RBed Hyaach last night"

On June 09 2012 16:50 Blazinghand wrote:


The idea of town having an RB and a JK *and* mafia having an RB is possible but is super super super more unlikely than: you're a fakeclaiming scum.

On June 09 2012 16:55 Blazinghand wrote:


Well you seem to quite well, mr "There must be an RB in addition to a JK"

On June 09 2012 16:55 Blazinghand wrote:


Well you seem to quite well, mr "There must be an RB in addition to a JK"