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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 13 2012 01:24 GMT
#481
lol Ace

Can't believe he acts "retarded" (figure of speech) each game as town yet gets shot on N1.

Okay, like I promised I'll try to reread the thread and reanalyze my reads.
For now I still think Wiggles and BB are suspicious, and Radfield so so.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 13 2012 01:49 GMT
#482
damn, I was all ready to lynch ace, guess I'll have to lynch intelligently now.

##Vote gonzaw

I think you're scum bro, what do you think about that?

also I told you, radfield is doubleconfirmed town.
Computer says mafia
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 13 2012 01:51 GMT
#483
On June 13 2012 09:14 chaoser wrote:
seems I've neglected this game, I'll be more active tomorrow since tomorrow is night for the other game.


What makes you say this now?
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 13 2012 01:57 GMT
#484
On June 13 2012 10:49 Palmar wrote:
damn, I was all ready to lynch ace, guess I'll have to lynch intelligently now.

##Vote gonzaw

I think you're scum bro, what do you think about that?

also I told you, radfield is doubleconfirmed town.


I think you are being an arrogant prick

...or you are just being normal Palmar.



If you think I'm scum for some specific reason then post it, if not I'm ignoring you.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 13 2012 02:00 GMT
#485
@Greymist:

I don't like how you are just going around asking people questions and creating doubt on them.
Like, you quote Hesmyrr and cast doubt on him, but then you quote chaoser and cast doubt on him. What's your motivation for that? Do you really think any of them can be scum or are you just trying to blend in?

What are your suspicions right now? (before you "go back and reread carefully" and not show up for 10 hours, just tell me what you think right now)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 13 2012 02:00 GMT
#486
EBWOP:

Well, the "casting doubt" thing may not correspond to your chaoser post, but the "blend in" part does
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
June 13 2012 02:02 GMT
#487
I'm voting Chaoser. If I like how he responds to my case or how he acts today, I'll consider changing it.

##Vote: Chaoser
you gotta dance
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 13 2012 02:25 GMT
#488
On June 13 2012 11:00 gonzaw wrote:
@Greymist:

I don't like how you are just going around asking people questions and creating doubt on them.
Like, you quote Hesmyrr and cast doubt on him, but then you quote chaoser and cast doubt on him. What's your motivation for that? Do you really think any of them can be scum or are you just trying to blend in?

What are your suspicions right now? (before you "go back and reread carefully" and not show up for 10 hours, just tell me what you think right now)


Im suspicious of Chaoser the most atm. aside from that my next read is most likely Hesmyrr. I have a feeling you are the Crazed Fiend, but thats really not based on much.
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 13 2012 02:42 GMT
#489
Okay, what do you think of Wiggles and BrownBear? (I don't think you ever mentioned your thoughts on BB yet)


Damn this game is deserted, before the game started I would have expected a war or something going on by now, with cases being thrown and posts being dissected and people shouting "OBJECTION!!" and then coming up with a new case that finally catches the right scum or something.

Clearly I was expecting too much from it
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 13 2012 02:44 GMT
#490
I'm still working...I've fucked up and mixed up my games too many times for me to try and do anything productive while I'm here.

Soon.......so soon.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 13 2012 02:46 GMT
#491
On June 13 2012 11:42 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, what do you think of Wiggles and BrownBear? (I don't think you ever mentioned your thoughts on BB yet)


Damn this game is deserted, before the game started I would have expected a war or something going on by now, with cases being thrown and posts being dissected and people shouting "OBJECTION!!" and then coming up with a new case that finally catches the right scum or something.

Clearly I was expecting too much from it


BB only recently started posting. hist posting is weird, but I'll need to see more day 2 before he gets higher on my to do list.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 13 2012 03:11 GMT
#492
On June 13 2012 11:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'm voting Chaoser. If I like how he responds to my case or how he acts today, I'll consider changing it.

##Vote: Chaoser


First, he did that weird thing with the RNG. I have no idea how that was supposed to work though, because RNG doesn't work with just someone posting a number and saying that's who we're lynching. But, after not enough people supported him, and I called him out on it, he says that it was for pressure and to see how Ace reacted. That sounds silly though, because the pressure would always be weak, and Ace didn't back off RNG but Chaoser still pushed him for it. Like I said, false pressure.


How do I generally start off games? I post "Blank is mafia, let's lynch him". This worked well for me for a while after that game I fakeclaimed DT but now it no longer works. When radfield jokingly suggested RNG and then Ace backed it up I figured it was a good way to pressure. I think palmar explained it really well and is kind of what I was going for in my post about why I started off talking about RNG but didn't really get across at all with my "it provides an amazing amount of pressure"

Palmar's:
Supporting an RNG lynch is not a bad idea. It's a net gain for town, as long as you settle the target early enough. It will actually help a lot trying to figure out what really is going on in the game. It creates an unusual situation that most people aren't sure how to react to, and it's in an unstable environment it's easiest to catch mafia. The point is that you can't really explain that in the thread (hence why I didn't) because as soon as everyone realizes you're meant to argue about whether you actually follow through with the random lynch, instead of just executing it, everyone will start thinking about it like a normal case based on analysis, and the advantage will have been lost.


Notice the part where he talks about settling it early, which is why I asked palmar to do RNG before the first 24 hours was up. I couldn't explain in thread at all as palmar points out so that's why I told radfield:

Who said no one is seriously taking an RNG vote? I'm sure everyone is. And so it holds weight see and would benefit town.


The VE/gonzaw vanilla towny/vanilla townie was actually just an over reaction on my part and once I realized no one else was bothered by it, I knew it was a false reading on my part.

When I first saw VE claim vanilla townie and then gonzaw counterclaim it as vanilla towny, I though I had caught them on something huge since I was taking both their posts seriously. The OP allows for me to post my PM so I'll do it to explain:

Welcome to IGCOM! You are Cook Club Katie. As a member of the faction Vita, you go to school at Vita Public School for Girls. You win when all other factions have been expelled!


Vanilla towny/townie/anything like that is never mentioned in the PM and so I was like wtf...did VE mess up and gonzaw caught him on it or did VE bait with it and then gonzaw got caught and was very confused. I don't remember right now but after a few minutes of thinking, I ended up reasoning out that the most suspicious person in that interaction was not VE or gonzaw but greymist because he hadn't responded the way I did, which was to do a double take upon seeing the VE/gonzaw interaction since Vanilla townie is never mentioned in our PMs as townies. I figured any townie would immediately be like wtf... That's why I immediately asked people what they thought of the usage of the words. Once I realized no one else really reacted the same way I did, I knew it probably didn't mean much.

However I had already found greymist's posts to be suspicious at that point already because it looked like he was picking and choosing who he wanted to point fingers at while ignoring others who were guilty of the same things he was pointing out in the people he wanted to point out at. And at the same time his case on Ace came up and it was ridiculously scummy, I mean, how can anyone think it's not, especially if he said he was suspicious of wiggles and then all of a sudden moves on to Ace while wiggles was also guilty of not posting much content at all?

Then I had to go out for dinner with a friend for his birthday and basically till now hadn't even looked in the thread. That's why I didn't change my vote.

I think I've answered all your questions, please point out more if I haven't
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 13 2012 03:23 GMT
#493
On June 13 2012 11:42 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, what do you think of Wiggles and BrownBear? (I don't think you ever mentioned your thoughts on BB yet)


Your case on me is without merit and awful.

I posted this earlier, wondering what people think about it:

On June 13 2012 02:42 BrownBear wrote:
Did I miss something, or did Ace and Radfield just both claim SK?

ok, ok, i know that isn't true. Anyway...


Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 19:17 Radfield wrote:

I assume what your insinuating is that me and Palmar are scumbuddies, or that I wanted to save him for some sort of underhanded reasoning. I can assure you that if I was scum and Palmar town, I would push any lynch on him I possibly could. Palmar, like no other player on this site, correctly ID's me by Night 1 pretty much every game we have ever played. Certainly he busted me in LOTR and Arkham 2, and was on my case in Closed Casket. No way I would save him, especially when I had already given myself plenty of reason to not vote Meapak.


Something about this passage seems off to me. Radfield addresses ace's insinuation that he's scumteam with Palmar by talking about a hypothetical situation in which he isn't scumteam with Palmar... am I missing something, or does that smell kinda fishy to me?


I think Radfield is ducking something here...
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 13 2012 03:24 GMT
#494
Also, Palmar, srsly you think I'm scum every game. Find a new target to tunnel bro.
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 13 2012 03:53 GMT
#495
Mafia just did us a favor

I like that mafia teams keep killing off good scum players. Off to bed, I'll post in the morning.

BB, you're reading too much into that post. I was just explaining to ace that if I was scummily saving Palmar, the only option was for me and palmar to be scumbuddies, something he refused to just come out and say.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 13 2012 05:51 GMT
#496
Okay, off to reread the thread!

(I think it will be the 1st time I'll ever reread a thread since it's beginning and not just read filters, I'm so excited!)

Up to page 11, and I already have new info and revelations :O :O :O

This is fun.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 13 2012 06:22 GMT
#497
On June 13 2012 14:51 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, off to reread the thread!

(I think it will be the 1st time I'll ever reread a thread since it's beginning and not just read filters, I'm so excited!)

Up to page 11, and I already have new info and revelations :O :O :O

This is fun.


good for you
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 13 2012 06:42 GMT
#498
On June 13 2012 14:51 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, off to reread the thread!

(I think it will be the 1st time I'll ever reread a thread since it's beginning and not just read filters, I'm so excited!)

Up to page 11, and I already have new info and revelations :O :O :O

This is fun.


Good idea. Since it's a small thread, pretty easy to do, I'd encourage more people to do this as well!

I'm off to do the same thing.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 13 2012 06:44 GMT
#499
On June 13 2012 12:53 Radfield wrote:
Mafia just did us a favor

I like that mafia teams keep killing off good scum players. Off to bed, I'll post in the morning.

BB, you're reading too much into that post. I was just explaining to ace that if I was scummily saving Palmar, the only option was for me and palmar to be scumbuddies, something he refused to just come out and say.


Also, real quick, we have the same number of posts now, so ha

And I see what you mean now. Still though, something about it weirded me out. If Ace were still alive, we could ask him to clarify, but he isn't, so...
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 13 2012 07:02 GMT
#500
On June 12 2012 11:33 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 09:39 gonzaw wrote:
So....who do you think is scum?


Still figuring that one out. I will post when I have a clearer picture. There isn't really a time crunch at the moment, so I hope you don't mind if I take my time during the night cycle and read carefully.



BrownBear, before doing anything....do you have the "clearer picture" yet?

You promised to "take your time during the night cycle and read carefully"...I assumed you had done that in the night cycle, right?

What did you conclude by then?
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