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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
If we have trouble hammering Toad and a risk.nuke lynch doesn't happen I'll switch, but for now I'll leave my vote on him. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
If we kill Toad and he flips red, medic(assuming we have one) will pretty much 100% cover me. Then we very likely lynch risk.nuke tomorrow. If we kill risk and he flips red, medic wonders if maybe Toad is town, and maybe I am scum. Scum shoots me, and Toad argues his way out of a lynch tomorrow because I am not around to push it through. Toad is very likely scum. risk.nuke is also probably scum(haven't refiltered him lately though, so he may be more or less scummy than I'm thinking). Lynching Toad gives us way more to take away than a risk.nuke lynch. Lynching Toad also pretty much confirms me as Town, as well as likely keeping me alive until the medic dies(blah blah if he exists). | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 05 2012 05:53 Kurumi wrote: Toad, I might get a vote off you if you tell me who should I kill depends on the lynch. If risk flips red you obviously shoot rad. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On June 02 2012 10:09 kitaman27 wrote: Ignore the rambling fool! OP was wrong due to copying that noob greymist. We won't change the setup with such short notice. Six votes still required :p I interpret this to mean 5 (10/2 = 5 rounded up is 5). ##Vote: Toadesstern | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
I don't buy Toad's explanation on how his case against me developed. It doesn't make sense from a townie perspective even if he believed that I was a vet. This is Toad's reason for suggesting a WBG lynch: "WBG is just plain ridiculous right now and he's way better as town than what we see here.". Completely ridiculous. The general tone of his response is townie in nature which is what confused me earlier, but he avoids and sidesteps the parts of the case that he can't answer. Toad is scum; everyone should vote for him. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 05 2012 06:03 Toadesstern wrote: depends on the lynch. If risk flips red you obviously shoot rad. It's funny because risk and Toad are BOTH probably red  But yeah, you obviously shoot me....  | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 05 2012 05:48 Radfield wrote: prplhz, you're wrong. Toad is scum, and is scrambling, misrepresenting and lying in an effort to avoid a lynch. He is NOT adequetely explaining his actions, instead he is talking around the issues, and bringing up tangential points instead addressing the true points in my case. 1. I explain how his early actions regarding Hiropro were scummy. Including his demeanor changes, vote and reasoning. Toad answers by talking about the Hiropro vs Hiroprotagonist issue, which had NOTHING TO DO with what I was talking about. It didn't matter WHO he thought he was talking to, because the way he was doing it was inherently scummy. 2. He originally used the 'not talking much' thing as an excuse to call bugs null, and then later added that in to his case on bugs being scummy. Something cannot be null to start, and then with no change become scummy later on when you try to think up reasons to lynch him. Toad completely ignores this part and only talks about the 24 hour thing and how he thought it was weird(not even scummy, yet he lists it as one of his reasons for finding bugs scummy). 3. He defends himself completely inadequately. Anyone who does not see this for a scum slip has not played enough mafia. You DO NOT say 'see you on day 2' when you actually mean 'see you at the end of night 1'. He also tries to stretch it as if I am claiming their is some Day 2 post, when that has nothing to do with what I am talking about. I'm talking about his confidence that he will survive to Day 2. 4. He never actually responds to my issues here. He is also deliberately stretching the truth or lying. He accused me of 'always thinking he was scum when he was town', but when I pressed him for examples he ignored me. He claims I think my entire case is based on the scum-slip, when I never said anything remotely similar. He claims my case was built out of my voting analysis, when I clearly and deliberately stated that was not the case. He claims I said that 3 of my points were 'weak', when of course I said no such thing. Toad is deliberately skewing things and trying to misdirect. He is scum. I also agree that risk.nuke is probably scum too, and see no redeeming features to his play. That being said, I feel Toad is a much larger threat than risk.nuke, as he is far more able to wiggle out of a lynch if I die. risk is going no where however. Additionally, assuming for a moment that we had an equal read on both Toad and risk, we gain wayyyyy more information from a Toad red flip than a risk red flip. Obviously we don't lynch based on getting info, but that doesn't mean we should disregard it either. See? That's what I am talking about: 2. He originally used the 'not talking much' thing as an excuse to call bugs null, and then later added that in to his case on bugs being scummy. Something cannot be null to start, and then with no change become scummy later on when you try to think up reasons to lynch him. Toad completely ignores this part and only talks about the 24 hour thing and how he thought it was weird(not even scummy, yet he lists it as one of his reasons for finding bugs scummy). I never did that. In fact I stated at least 5 times that I did something else. He either hasn't read any of those answeres or still hasn't understoof what I said. 1. I explain how his early actions regarding Hiropro were scummy. Including his demeanor changes, vote and reasoning. Toad answers by talking about the Hiropro vs Hiroprotagonist issue, which had NOTHING TO DO with what I was talking about. It didn't matter WHO he thought he was talking to, because the way he was doing it was inherently scummy. YES IT DOES HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. I thought I caught a vet lying. That's it. How is the fact that he's not a vet not of importance if I tell people I caught a vet lying? [quote3. He defends himself completely inadequately. Anyone who does not see this for a scum slip has not played enough mafia. You DO NOT say 'see you on day 2' when you actually mean 'see you at the end of night 1'. He also tries to stretch it as if I am claiming their is some Day 2 post, when that has nothing to do with what I am talking about. I'm talking about his confidence that he will survive to Day 2.[/quote] I already talked about it and apparently people don't give a thing about the "scumslip" except for rad and Kurumi and Rad is the only bringing it up all the time | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
I don't get why you are afraid of dying Radfield and I don't like how you are wobbling on risk.nuke. First "he's very likely scum" and then god damn 5 minutes later you didn't read his filter and you have no idea. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On June 05 2012 06:03 Toadesstern wrote: depends on the lynch. If risk flips red you obviously shoot rad. This is really poor logic, especially when you consider that Toad said a little while back that Radfield is probably town. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 05 2012 06:08 HiroPro wrote: This is really poor logic, especially when you consider that Toad said a little while back that Radfield is probably town. no it's not. #1 mafia is either Prplhz or Rad If prplhz is pushing a red lynch instead of me he can't be mafia and I have a much stronger townread on Kurumi. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On June 05 2012 06:15 prplhz wrote: talismania with the god damn ninja vote right there. After I say I'm going to hammer Toadesstern but without posting in the thread and while pushing risk.nuke. I actually thought it was weird you hadn't hammered him yet when I read that and went to the voting thread. I refreshed a couple of times and then figured I ought to do it myself. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
gg toad | ||
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