EPTIf so what do we do to pick his target? all vote? let him randomly choose?
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FreelanceSatan
36 Posts
If so what do we do to pick his target? all vote? let him randomly choose? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:26 Toadesstern wrote: I thought so as well until I realized there can be framers in this game  The op has no framers in it but they're possible because it's apparently a closed-setup with example roles. Especially if we follow the miller plan from gonzaw that is bound to fail because if we assign the guy who shoots based on being a miller and the fact that it should return red (as you pointet out no mafia will return red AND are able to shoot) we're painting a big, red cross above the millers head for a framer. Wait why would you want to frame a miller? I've thought about it a bit and I don't really see a downside of millers claiming especially if we give them a designated target. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Wait why would you want to frame a miller? I've thought about it a bit and I don't really see a downside of millers claiming especially if we give them a designated target. if you frame a miller he returns green like a GF would. A miller should return red but we know he can't be a mafia guy unless he's GF so the shot of a miller proves he is either a townie or a GF. If he returns green to a DT check he looks like a GF and not like a miller who should return red on checks. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:39 Toadesstern wrote: if you frame a miller he returns green like a GF would. A miller should return red but we know he can't be a mafia guy unless he's GF so the shot of a miller proves he is either a townie or a GF. If he returns green to a DT check he looks like a GF and not like a miller who should return red on checks. Yeah this is true if the cop is sane. We have varied sanity so I wouldn't put that much stock if someone claimed miller a check turned them green. Even if it's actually the gf we still have the fact that the cop may be naive. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yeah this is true if the cop is sane. We have varied sanity so I wouldn't put that much stock if someone claimed miller a check turned them green. Even if it's actually the gf we still have the fact that the cop may be naive. I'm obviously only talkinga about confirmed sanity. A green check on n1 is worth nothing. A useless Cop (paranoid / naive) is obviously going to be worthless and people know that. We won't have a claim on d1 or d2 of a DT because of sanities but if we have a claim d3 or d4 with confirmed sanities and that gives us a green check on a miller with a sane cop or a red result on a miller with an insane cop that'd be really bad because again, that looks like a GF. | ||
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FreelanceSatan
36 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:37 chaoser wrote: Isn't it Night 0? As in mafia get to do night kills if they want to? why did RoL claim miller already... yeah i didnt even think about that..looks like he jumped the gun a bit there.. what are the chances the mafia would want to shoot him instead of shooting for blues tho? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:55 FreelanceSatan wrote: yeah i didnt even think about that..looks like he jumped the gun a bit there.. what are the chances the mafia would want to shoot him instead of shooting for blues tho? about 0. I actually thought there's no way that's really a claim because that would be stupid. Maybe it's a trick to survive d0? :p Let's start the wifom machine lol. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:55 FreelanceSatan wrote: yeah i didnt even think about that..looks like he jumped the gun a bit there.. what are the chances the mafia would want to shoot him instead of shooting for blues tho? because we probably got a LOT of blues. + In an optimal scenario, we really could benefit from a Millermassclaim D1 NOT N1.... | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Anyways, I had a sudden doubt: -If all VTs of us died, and only blue remained...would we instantly lose the game? I mean, we wouldn't have anybody to shoot at day, meaning we wouldn't have "lynches". So every day would either be NL or the GF shooting townies; then scum would shoot at night. Is this true or did I miss something? | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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FreelanceSatan
36 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On June 12 2012 05:47 FreelanceSatan wrote: wait....so there is no lynch?? wtf.. how is town gonna stand a chance if we cant use pressure votes to scum hunt.. This is precisely why we have to vote on who gets to shoot and who they shoot at. If town shoots Willy Nilly we are doomed before we start. This is precisely the reason that even if we have ROL do the shooting, we still need to vote on who he shoots and not have him decide. Our votes on who gets shot are what we need to analyze and evaluate scum and townies. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
"I'm going to shoot you unless you start scumhunting." Or something like that. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
I am going to type in one letter of the "##kill: MrZentor" in each post until he delivers his opinions! WOA! So cool. Wish i was VT. Maybe I am... Maybe not... | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:26 Toadesstern wrote: I thought so as well until I realized there can be framers in this game The op has no framers in it but they're possible because it's apparently a closed-setup with example roles. Especially if we follow the miller plan from gonzaw that is bound to fail because if we assign the guy who shoots based on being a miller and the fact that it should return red (as you pointet out no mafia will return red AND are able to shoot) we're painting a big, red cross above the millers head for a framer. I'm sure it's possible but stacking framers into a game with insane DT's is a bit fucked. I doubt they are there but at the same token we shouldn't hinge on blues to win it for us just in case. Mentioning framers and other more wacky roles just gives the mafia room to yell at us about. I'd refer to play within behavioral analysis instead of hinging on blues. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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