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So, as you guys know, my thoughts on day 1 were.... to put it bluntly, bad.
My main first case was against acro, which was valid at the time, however, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Marvel is a town player, so there was no point checking him.
The other player I thought was a bit off was Zel. However, he was being super inactive and lurky at the time, so I expected him to be vigged, and so not worth the check.
The reason I did check Hiro, however, is that he was one of the few people who didn't bother questioning me about Jeb. I stand by my decision to vote for him, but it raised a few eyebrows, and for good reason. Hiro on the other hand didn't think twice of it, and was happy to just watch us townies argue between ourselves.
When he came out red, I *slightly* overreacted, hence, the moment I saw any reason to pile pressure on him, I took it, and hoped town would do the same. When this didn't happen, I subtly claimed in the hope one of the vets would see it. This is also why I asked earlier, that a vet would look over my filter and I asked "Is my few mafia traits the only thing that sticks out?" in the hope they would notice, and attempt to help me swing the votes over to Hiro.
Take from this what you will.
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Correct, not at that point. 24 hours night. Marvel is one of the clearest town reads in the game.
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On May 26 2012 02:17 zelblade wrote:
Wait what you posted that shit during the night?
What did he do in that extremely short timespan that convinced you he wasnt worth a check?
Pretty much from when he responded to the case, hence why I didn't follow it up ^^
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On May 26 2012 02:19 zelblade wrote:
So the two of you dont find this claim extremely convenient and not a little suspect at all?
I initially started on Hiro right at the start of the day. I wasn't even under *that* much pressure at the time. Whatever happens, we'll get one scum today or tomorrow, depending on when we lynch Hiro, let's just keep the DT alive in the meantime shall we?
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On May 26 2012 02:37 zelblade wrote:Man I dont see how you think marv is scummy, than that read suddenly changes to townie enough to not warrant a check just because he decided to attack you. You yourself say its a weak case, and mafia oftentime make terrible cases to mislynch townies, so why the hell did that convince you that he was somehow town? Show nested quote +Your case almost seemed reasonable apart from the fact your summary does nothing to point me as mafia, instead, it just tries to find flaws in my case against you. I'll just put this here. Posted before marv's last post of the night, and from it one can infer that he still thinks marv is suspicious. I dont buy this claim. My vote is sticking on him.
That post isn't relevant to me checking him. It's about the fact that his "case" didn't make me out as mafia, more him as town.
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On May 26 2012 02:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2012 02:11 Zealos wrote:
So, as you guys know, my thoughts on day 1 were.... to put it bluntly, bad.
My main first case was against acro, which was valid at the time, however, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Marvel is a town player, so there was no point checking him.
The other player I thought was a bit off was Zel. However, he was being super inactive and lurky at the time, so I expected him to be vigged, and so not worth the check.
The reason I did check Hiro, however, is that he was one of the few people who didn't bother questioning me about Jeb. I stand by my decision to vote for him, but it raised a few eyebrows, and for good reason. Hiro on the other hand didn't think twice of it, and was happy to just watch us townies argue between ourselves.
When he came out red, I *slightly* overreacted, hence, the moment I saw any reason to pile pressure on him, I took it, and hoped town would do the same. When this didn't happen, I subtly claimed in the hope one of the vets would see it. This is also why I asked earlier, that a vet would look over my filter and I asked "Is my few mafia traits the only thing that sticks out?" in the hope they would notice, and attempt to help me swing the votes over to Hiro.
Take from this what you will. Fuck guys, come on, think about this a little. Firstly, to the bold: you know when zelblade started getting suspicious to a lot of people? The first day of the 2nd Day cycle. Why? because during the Night he said he would provide reads the next day (i.e. the first day of Day 2). zelblade at the time of Night 1 was neither that lurky nor that suspicious to anyone. Further to this, why on earth would Zealos expect him to be vigged? There were several loud claims for vig shots, most notably: me - I wanted NT shot. wherebugsgo - he wanted Zealos and Tunkeg shot. there was also mention of Katina being vigged I believe. Where in all this does Zealos come to the conclusion taht zelblade is likely to be vig shotted? IT MAKES NO SENSE. This is Mafia LI mark 2, can't you guys see that? Think about the timings of when zelblade got suspicious, think who Zealos apparently found suspicious, who Zealos made no mention of at all (seriously, his reason for checking Hiro is superweak - he didn't question me on Moudly?). zelblade was at no risk of being vig shotted. This claim is as false as they come.
Because Zel was inactive and useless to town. I would have vigged him. Also, the hiro reason didn't need to be super strong at the time, it was either that or a random.
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On May 26 2012 02:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2012 02:44 Zealos wrote:On May 26 2012 02:42 marvellosity wrote:On May 26 2012 02:11 Zealos wrote:
So, as you guys know, my thoughts on day 1 were.... to put it bluntly, bad.
My main first case was against acro, which was valid at the time, however, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Marvel is a town player, so there was no point checking him.
The other player I thought was a bit off was Zel. However, he was being super inactive and lurky at the time, so I expected him to be vigged, and so not worth the check.
The reason I did check Hiro, however, is that he was one of the few people who didn't bother questioning me about Jeb. I stand by my decision to vote for him, but it raised a few eyebrows, and for good reason. Hiro on the other hand didn't think twice of it, and was happy to just watch us townies argue between ourselves.
When he came out red, I *slightly* overreacted, hence, the moment I saw any reason to pile pressure on him, I took it, and hoped town would do the same. When this didn't happen, I subtly claimed in the hope one of the vets would see it. This is also why I asked earlier, that a vet would look over my filter and I asked "Is my few mafia traits the only thing that sticks out?" in the hope they would notice, and attempt to help me swing the votes over to Hiro.
Take from this what you will. Fuck guys, come on, think about this a little. Firstly, to the bold: you know when zelblade started getting suspicious to a lot of people? The first day of the 2nd Day cycle. Why? because during the Night he said he would provide reads the next day (i.e. the first day of Day 2). zelblade at the time of Night 1 was neither that lurky nor that suspicious to anyone. Further to this, why on earth would Zealos expect him to be vigged? There were several loud claims for vig shots, most notably: me - I wanted NT shot. wherebugsgo - he wanted Zealos and Tunkeg shot. there was also mention of Katina being vigged I believe. Where in all this does Zealos come to the conclusion taht zelblade is likely to be vig shotted? IT MAKES NO SENSE. This is Mafia LI mark 2, can't you guys see that? Think about the timings of when zelblade got suspicious, think who Zealos apparently found suspicious, who Zealos made no mention of at all (seriously, his reason for checking Hiro is superweak - he didn't question me on Moudly?). zelblade was at no risk of being vig shotted. This claim is as false as they come. Because Zel was inactive and useless to town. I would have vigged him. Also, the hiro reason didn't need to be super strong at the time, it was either that or a random. Bullshit. During Day 1 he was not inactive, he only started getting inactive later. Everything in my post stands. Hiro conveniently comes out with this case allowing Zealos to attack him for it, and they proceed to attack each other. Town needs to see that your reason for not checking zelblade is nonsense. You were at a high risk of being lynched Day 2 anyway. You have no breadcrumb on your check. This whole thing reeks.
Well, it's my reason none the less. Your logic isn't the same as mine. I had to chose who to check. I was right.
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Also, I'd always assumed breadcrumbs is when you breadcrumb the result of the check.
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Clearly as scum I would want to do the same thing again. With VE IN THE GAME.
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On May 26 2012 03:20 Katina wrote:Hi guys, I'm going to be really busy today but I will try and post if and when I can. So a N_T lynch isn't going to happen today it seems. Sigh. In that case I'm for a Zealos lynch. His arguments with Hiro have been cluttering up the thread and causing a lot of other posts to get buried. Just like the issues with WBG and VE. I'm suspicious of him so I'm casting my vote ##Vote ZealosSorry N_T I voted. </3 + Show Spoiler +Also any argument that I'm lurking is pretty ridiculous. Just because I don't spam and make 15 posts a day like half the players doesn't mean I'm lurking. Quality over quantity people.
What a dreadful post.
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I just don't understand why you wouldn't vote Hiro first then after seeing I'm DT we can start winning. But eh. You'll get him tomorrow I guess :/
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On May 26 2012 04:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay wait...Bugs is scum right? He's this big fake-claim advocate as scum...
Mattchew I'm gonna go with my gut here instead of my brain...surprise surprise right?
##Unvote HiroPro
##Vote Zealos
How about going back to your brain? Voting for hiro there is nothing to lose. He. Is. Scum.
Kill him.
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There's much I can do to make you believe my claim. Logic say's it would be better off killing hiro first even if there's only 50% chance of me telling the truth.
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Killing off a detective seems like a strong play at this point....
At least you'll actually bloody kill hiro tomorrow.
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On May 26 2012 05:13 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 07:45 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:44 froggynoddy wrote:On May 24 2012 07:19 HiroPro wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2012 00:14 Tunkeg wrote:
EchelonTee - Scum
So I have changed my mind. I had ET leaning town early on in the game, I was wrong. He is scum, and this is why:
1. He have been trying to appear active while not really being active. His post have mostly consisted of oneliners, soft accusations and defending others. I think his defence om me was for this purpose only. To appear active, get easy townpoints and be able to put down an early vote. Isolated I viewed his arguement with Acrofalis as townie, as he was sticking his head out. In hindsight I see this as mentioned above - a way to appear active.
2. He don't really want to give us his reads. I have asked him for reads two times, he ignores it. Why dodge questions like that if you are town? Sure, he might think they are trivial and not worth spending his time on. But I see refusing to answer questions as scummy.
3. He listed that he would be ok with lynching jeb, acid and Katina without any reason. Between them there are two newbies, who are an easy misslynch because they are inexperienced and Katina, who is famous for being very lurky (at least she have been in all games I have played with her), and is also a player that is easy to get a misslynch on.
4. He voted for jeb just before the deadline (on the deadline actually) without any reason. And in a very suspicious way: "When is the deadline", like he did it on purpose, so that he wouldn't have to post any reasoning to why he voted jeb, and not get hold accountable for it.
ET is my number one scumread. Feel free to discuss it or not, especially if you disagree. If you agreeyou are probably better off waiting until after the night is over. Because if ET is scum scumteam will probably lynch someone who agrees to make it less likely he get lynched on day 2. Oh look, your "number one scumread" died. How convenient. Guess that gives you more time to post useless questions and lists, huh. ##Vote Tunkeg This makes no sense whatsoever. He also Tunkeg's scumbuddy hiro? These two posts right here. He talks to Hiro as just another townie at first... Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 07:51 Zealos wrote:
In fact, hiro, you've written nothing of substance all game bar a case against Mouldy. Your points against Tunkeg have seemed weak, and your latest post is downright dreadful. Seems like you're tunnelling tunkeg to avoid giving any other reads. ...but then has a revelation about Hiro's filter being lacking? This isn't a DT who just got a check on the guy, it's someone who has just now "become suspicious" of the guy. He's lying about the claim.
Because I need to convince other people to get him killed...?
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On May 26 2012 05:35 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2012 02:11 Zealos wrote:
So, as you guys know, my thoughts on day 1 were.... to put it bluntly, bad.
My main first case was against acro, which was valid at the time, however, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Marvel is a town player, so there was no point checking him.
The other player I thought was a bit off was Zel. However, he was being super inactive and lurky at the time, so I expected him to be vigged, and so not worth the check.
The reason I did check Hiro, however, is that he was one of the few people who didn't bother questioning me about Jeb. I stand by my decision to vote for him, but it raised a few eyebrows, and for good reason. Hiro on the other hand didn't think twice of it, and was happy to just watch us townies argue between ourselves.
When he came out red, I *slightly* overreacted, hence, the moment I saw any reason to pile pressure on him, I took it, and hoped town would do the same. When this didn't happen, I subtly claimed in the hope one of the vets would see it. This is also why I asked earlier, that a vet would look over my filter and I asked "Is my few mafia traits the only thing that sticks out?" in the hope they would notice, and attempt to help me swing the votes over to Hiro.
Take from this what you will. This is complete bs. This guy has no breadcrumb of checking me. He definitely acted like he was suspicious of marv throughout the night. He didn't check zelblade, because he was likely to get vigged? Bullshit, cause zelblade wasn't inactive day 1 and not a single person said that they had suspicions of him at night. No one said that they wanted him to be vigged. He randomly goes from trying to poke holes in my Tunkeg case to saying "In fact, this guy is scum!" And not to mention the fact that everything else in his filter indicates he's scummy as hell.
You're complete bs.
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On May 26 2012 05:45 HiroPro wrote:
I'm not responding to this shit anymore. If anyone has something else to discuss, i'll talk, but this guy is just trying to provoke me.
"this guy" has a name and he's a DT scum man.
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On May 26 2012 05:47 froggynoddy wrote:
Zealos looks like you're our lynch then. Should we be wrong apart from Hiro who do you think is scum?
1. Mattchew filter
2. EchelonTee filter
3. Wherebugsgo filter
4. Tunkeg filter
5. Acid~ filter
6. Zealos filter
7. HiroPro filter
8. Mouldy Jeb filter
9. Katina filter
10. Navillus filter
11. Acrofales filter Marvellosity filter
12. Nova_Terra filter
13. VisceraEyes filter
14. zelblade filter
15. Froggynoddy filter
One of the above, take your pick.
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On May 26 2012 05:54 froggynoddy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2012 05:51 Zealos wrote:On May 26 2012 05:47 froggynoddy wrote:
Zealos looks like you're our lynch then. Should we be wrong apart from Hiro who do you think is scum? 1. Mattchew filter 2. EchelonTee filter 3. Wherebugsgo filter 4. Tunkeg filter 5. Acid~ filter 6. Zealos filter 7. HiroPro filter 8. Mouldy Jeb filter 9. Katina filter 10. Navillus filter 11. Acrofales filter Marvellosity filter 12. Nova_Terra filter 13. VisceraEyes filter 14. zelblade filter 15. Froggynoddy filter One of the above, take your pick. Wait what? You think there are only two scum?
You said who else. I only have one other read.
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