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On May 25 2012 06:11 Mattchew wrote:
I don't care about his lack of defense, I care about his reads and what he has posted
The reads he decided not to post during the day? The read where he said I hadn't made a case but I had? Or where he said I was posting a lot even though that's irrelevant?
What is it about the timing of his reads (not posting them during the day) or content (everything he said on me was bad) do you like? Or is it just that he went after zelblade who you are also going after?
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also what was pathetic Bout my attack on you froggy
you screwed up massively and it looked scummy as shit.
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On May 25 2012 06:10 Navillus wrote:
Marvel first at the beginning he was doing his whole flavor text thing which I really didn't see as alignment indicative, if anything town would probably be more willing to do it because scum would be afraid of drawing attention and everyone yelling at them to stop, but then where I started to think he was town was when people had a problem with him he continued to do it but also made sure to make his reads clear and explicit as the game went on, I don't think scum would do this as once enough people were accepting it or not lynching him over it I think he was in the clear, policy lynches rarely happen day 1 and almost never day 2, but he continued to be clear with what he was saying.
Then when he posted all of his reads I agreed with many of them and just the thought process behind them seemed townie.
The biggest thing now though is that he stopped with the flavor to try to get VE and WBG to stop fighting. Scum would have no reason to do this, first most scum would (and probably did) just stay out of that fight in general seeing as it was making the thread more confusing and scum-hunting more difficult. They could sit behind the excuse that it was the two vets and they know more or should work it out or something, but Matt has an even better excuse, he could have ignored it or thrown some useless flavor at it and if anyone asked him about it later he could say he did what he could (which because it would just be some flavor text probably wouldn't fix anything) and no one would blame him as most people accepted the flavor at this point. But instead he decides that doing what's best for town is more important and stops with the flavor text, this is big because one he's helping town in the first place by calming the fight and two by stopping the flavor text he's making himself more vulnerable and easier to read, I think if scum took the gambit to post like that at the beginning they wouldn't be willing to give up the advantage of being harder to read so soon at all.
Perhaps you're right. It's not a ploy I'd put past a scum Matt, at all though.
For example, an alternative story:
1) sees Drazerk made it to endgame almost without suspicion using posting restriction, does it himself
2) rides to the rescue by posting normally again (like we should be pleased with this. he should have been doing so from the start) and gains town credit for it and coming to scold wbg/VE.
I'm not saying this has to be the case, but it definitely could be the case.
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EBWOP: 1) is referring to Holy Roman which just finished
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its magic the gathering mafia you (insert bad name here) I was excited to post like that from THE FIRST NON-OP POST OF THE GAME... the rest of you ruined my (and the mod's fyi) fun by being so stupid
On May 15 2012 09:43 Mattchew wrote:
woah woah woah woah woah
raging goblin has the best flavor text of all time. you leave that shit right where it is
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
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On May 25 2012 06:11 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 05:38 froggynoddy wrote:
Up until Mouldy flipped town I felt that N_T was just playing aggressively. though badly and I pretty much had a null read on him. When Mouldy flipped town however and NT, almost schizophrenically one might say, toned down the aggression I felt like he had a scum agenda. Though we can be somewhat excused him from voting for Mouldy he made very little attempt to find scum apart from his frankly pathetic attack on myself. Optimally as a townie he should have pushed for whoever he felt was most scum rather than wait for a bandwagon to form on Mouldy and just hop on last minute.
However when he was pressured to make a case from Marv who does he pick? Katina. Probably the easiest case to write as even when she is town she lurks like crazy. It seems like N_T desperately needed a case (see my case on Grush in LIV when I was encouraged by scummate to write a case). Note that similar reasoning could be applied to Hiro, hence my mentioning him quite a few times.
I didn't vote for Mouldy due to not having been able to post since lynch time and his lacklustre play had not occurred when I went inactive. thats okay that you have your little ideas and "optimal posting" meanwhile I'll push my biggest scumread regardless if you criticize my case for being against someone you deem easiest to make a case on or not Simply the fact that the case is an "easy one" and its so hard to get a group on her makes me think that shes even more likely scum
The reason why your Katina case is getting no steam is because people are debating about the Zs and kinda ignoring everything else thats happening.
I'm going to ignore what you think about your case on me as:
1. I've already said why;
2. If your scum (which I think is a better than odds chance of you being) I don't care about your opinion
3. As town you are playing, at first stupid, now inconsistently given your stubborn behaviour in Day1 and I don't expect you to have the open mindedness to accept that you were wrong (like I did regarding your meta for example)
To all those voting Zellblade, why vote for him rather than Katina? The latter has been lurky as opposed to inactive (which seems scummier) and any reliance on 'maybe he's got a special night power' is a completely useless hypothesis as inactivity can have a huge array of motivation behind it, lurkiness less so.
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ps. its not my fault if you couldn't understand my posts when i was using flavor, I made the message in each one pretty fucking simple and usually revolving around one or two words
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On May 25 2012 06:06 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +
You're right, I wasn't actually trying to convince anyone here, just explaining my train of thought. Now keep in mind this is my first *TL* mafia and I don't know any of you. I don't know anyone's meta so my analysis is based entirely on what goes on in this thread and general knowledge about mafia games. Not knowing Zealos, to me he could be a confused or mediocre town player just as much as he could be scum. Zelblade, however, I feel he should be carrying a sign that says "please oh please god don't look at me I just want to live through this day so I can use my power at night".
what exactly has zelblade done (other than lurking) that has said that? Just out of curiosity
It's more like what he hasn't done. Specifically he hasn't questioned, challenged, or pressured anyone. He agreed with other people when they made such actions, but he originated nothing. He avoided confrontation and if you look at his posting, there is nothing there to work with, nothing to challenge, nothing to build upon. He votes on Jeb, because :
On May 23 2012 00:00 zelblade wrote:
I still think nova is scummy. But mouldy more so. Agree with marv's case generally.
No commitment, overly careful play. OK, so maybe the power thing is stretching it, but he definitely wants to slip under the radar.
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On May 25 2012 01:24 Nova_Terra wrote:Hi, im going to take a brief bit of time to go over my favorite for todays lynch, Katina. Note the word brief, her filter is 12 posts. 6 of which is 1 or 2 liners. Now lets go and check a game where Katina was scum, TL Mafia LIV. In her filter: Posts at the same rate as this game, aka lurking (until she gets modkilled day1) posting aggressively when she actually posts quoting to look like shes contributing to quote katina, What is she doing this game? ... ... Same thing! First post Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 01:57 Katina wrote:
Hi guys, just finished reading through the thread (not that it was much to read) I like how people jumped onto the VE votes like little school girls licking lollipops and followed the teacher. We are how far into day one? and there are only a few pages and not much to go on as in terms of scum hunting. I agree that Navillus looks a little suspicious at the moment. I will be rereading the thread and taking a closer look at what we have so far. Okay, so immediately we have complaining about other peoples votes while offering nothing, saying theres nothing to scum hunt with (yeah thanks for that) a Navillus scummy bandwagon, and a promise for some closer look soon. Only a day and 3 hours later does she actually make a post with any sort of "closer look". Second post Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 07:25 Katina wrote:On May 22 2012 05:52 froggynoddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 22 2012 05:29 Tunkeg wrote:
Reads d1 of Day1
Acrofalis/Marvellosity:
Leaning town based on Acrofalis aggression while he was in game. He tried to get this game going, and tried to apply some pressure.
EchelonTee:
Leaning town. He went into a fight with Acrofalis from the get go, and haven't been afraid to stick his head out.
Zealos
Get some scumvibes off him. He started the game by voting VE as number two, without a good reason. He claims it to be a joke later (which it might be). He then proceeds to vote Acrofales based on ET's case, and because of meta, basicly sheeping ET. The rest of his filter seems very empty, even though he got more post than most in this game. Some townpoints for actually bother to answer questions.
Mattchew
He might be one of those I called out for not posting earlier, that is a scum. I don't know what he is trying to do, but if his postingstyle continues this way he will be disruptive townie at best, and sabotaging scum at worst. Leaning scum for now.
Nova_Terra
Leaning scum. He was active at the start, but unlike Acrofalis his attempts at pushing seems more forced, and with no real weight behind it. His whole postingstyle seems very non-commital and gives me scumvibes.
Also Navillus need to get in the thread and do some more. His vote on WBG is the only thing he have done. And it was done without much reasoning, and in my opinion strange reasoning.
PS: I know you guys don't like list. But I want to do lists so bare with me.
PS 2: This is not an analysis post. It is a read post. When I am ready to put my vote down on someone I will try to make a good case/analysis on them. Exception is if there is a great case on them that I agree with, then I will be open about sheeping it, and probably just add some of my own reasoning to it.
This list... serves no purpose other than making you look active. Town reads are worse than useless day 1 as 1. they are even weaker than day 1 scumreads and 2. points to scum who to kill to cause confusion. EDIT: There was more but WBG and Navillus covered it whilst I was writing + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote:
Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot.
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##Vote: Mattchew
As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.
On N_T yes VE and WBG I'd say he's using pretty bad method of scumhunting/analysis and his vote is for a dumb reason, but that doesn't make him scum and aside from clear-cut examples of someone being useless or disruptive (such as restricting their posts to text from a card game) it's a bad idea to lynch someone for bad play, in my experience it's rarely a scumtell and depending on how they're playing badly it can be more of a town tell.
Tunkeg you asked a bunch of questions earlier, most of them were ignored, was there any point to them? Why don't you care that people didn't answer you/why aren't you following up? Also why post that list, if you have scum reads why aren't you just pressuring them instead of telling them, and how does telling everyone your town-reads do anything but let scum know who you think is townie and so light them up as targets?
Holy spam batman! NT scum or town please stop with multiple one or two line posts in a row, it's distracting and makes the thread harder to read through, consolidate. How is voting for Mattchew due to his posting style (which you consider to be *Bad*) different to voting N_T based on bad play? I don't necessarily disagree with you I just think you're being a little inconsistent. Shoot I forgot to unvote as promised: ##Unvote
##Vote KatinaInactive players kill town. Katina, my vote stays on you until you make an appearance. I made an apperance earlier today. Do you not read over the thread my dear? On May 22 2012 03:27 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 22 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2012 21:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hey VE since you seem to want to ignore my challenge who do you wanna kill Hey Nova, since you seem to want to ignore my question to you (something that's actually USEFUL to this game, unlike your "challenge"), how about you actually answer it instead of trying to distract town with meaningless drivel? I'll even repost it for your convenience. On May 21 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2012 05:59 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 21 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Whether or not advice is good has nothing to do with the alignment of a player, just the same as making a plan, regardless of how good it is, is generally not indicative of alignment.
If the advice makes sense, follow it. If not, don't. The question of "is this guy scum" has nothing to do with that. I never said that it has anything to do with indicacating the alignment of the player,i said that general advice seems to be contributing but isnt really. and that its just as likely mister helpful is scum, etc. Your style has so far been laced with an air of giving advice to the other players - in what way is Bugs' post giving advice any different from, say, you warning that "players trying to give advice could be scum"? ooh i forgot about that Its different because its not all i've done and because i know im town and its not really different itself, but i was aware of the hypocrisy before i made teh post I would to bring attention to this lovely post. N_T might be the BM version 2! I say this because of his spam, oneliners, and the fact he seems to be refreshing the thread every 5 minutes. When BM is mafia he always over emphasizes that he is confirmed town. Such things are silly to say and provide no help to the town I will be setting my vote. ##Vote Nove_TerraBased on his fliter, he seems to more interesting in proving his innocence then trying to find the Mafia. Then we have a wonderfully awful case against myself, decides to link me to another player and therefore i am mafia (lolwut) This post is also wonderful because once gets accused of lurking... NO LOOK I WAS HERE BEFORE READ READ READ WHY U NO READ So so far we have a silly case and vote that adds suspicion to players with no logical reasoning, getting defensive when called out on totally true lurking, and meta that is the exact same as her last games scum meta Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 08:07 Katina wrote:On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote:
hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_Terra I was reading through filters and came across this post. It is just O.o This post does not have a purpose. It feels forced. Almost like he didn't really want to post but knew that he had to. I'm not saying we should kill him but that a finger of suspicion should be pointed onto him. He just played the noob card in his post. I'm always wary of those people. They don't tickle my fancy. Oh cool, now we have a secondary target being thrown out, but not only is this post throwing out a secondary target... Its pretty much doing the same thing as Katina was pointing out here, and more importantly shes asking for someone to do the dirty work for her. Im not sure we should but he should be suspicious everybody notice i do stuff. Now heres the first real "closer look post" Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 04:19 Katina wrote:Sorry, I'm here now. I had a very busy day yesterday but it's all good now. On May 21 2012 04:45 Nova_Terra wrote:
Yaaaaaay!
Should we get rid of a veteran? should we? I THINK SO :D
##Vote: VisceraEyes On May 22 2012 01:26 Nova_Terra wrote:
as of yet i would be fine with either a Navillus or WBG lynch On May 22 2012 04:34 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 22 2012 04:16 froggynoddy wrote:Hello, finally recovered from weekend (did not expect this game to start so early). Hello Marv  : I'm almost tempted to policy vote you due to how scary good you played with me as scum in LIV. Policy lynches are bad though so your safe until you post more. I don't think WBG's opening comment is alignment charged. there are equal reasons for both town and scum to open up D1 with general common sense posts. From the 2 games I've played (Noobie VIII and TLMafia LIV) and N_T has been lurky/bored as townie and hyper-active as scum. Just saying. Navillus, despite still being a noob I am strongly against a 'voting against vets' policy. It makes no sense and seems hugely anti-town, unless its a joke. Let me know if it is because until then ##Vote Navillus[/b Rofl, well thats interesting, it looks like i just went through your newbie game (snmmIX not VIII, bitch to find) and in that game there was an understanding that my town meta was very very active which i ended up failing at as scum, and my meta change was frequently noted in cases against me. Very interesting that you would want to try to make this conclusion. what reason would there be other than scum? ##Unvote
##Vote: Froggynoddy On May 22 2012 14:24 Nova_Terra wrote:
On May 22 2012 14:18 EchelonTee wrote:
acid, jeb, katina, or no lynch
i think one of those should happen
in no particular order froggy, katina, WBG Okay.... please tell me you guys have seem how inconsistent N_T is. Take a look at his filter. He opens with going after VE right off the back with close to no reasoning except he that he might be a veteran. Then he proceeds to spew out short useless posts. He is throwing doubt around the town and is picking at everyone. I don't need to tell you guys he's spamming relentlessly. As I said before he seems more interested in proving his own innocence than trying to find mafia. This is shown by how he is trying to kill anyone he can. Instead of just focusing on one or two players. First part of the post is literally the exact same excuse as LIV where she says that she had a busy night so apologies apologies, good job Then is this awful reasoning that i am scum, looks like to me once she realized that my vote got sufficient traction it was time to bandwagon a real reason for hers Problem is, the reasons are bull. So right now it appears that she opposes pressure (apparently pressuring a veteran isnt ok) and its a problem that i picked at "everyone" (actually 6 people, 15 people in town. i dont see the problem). Furthermore, as she had just been in a game with me, i would assume she knows how i post spammily and this shouldnt be surprising to her. Unless she rolled scum, and is bullshitting, that is. Apparently its a bad thing to not only focus on 1 or 2 players (what? trying to limit a vote where there is no no-lynch?) Then theres a couple worthless short defenses of herself. then this wonderful gem: ..... Not only is this completely stupid to have not seemed to read the thread, she says that my spam is similar to a game i played mafia in But wait, i was just in a game with you where i was town AND I SPAMMED So now shes just throwing shit to try to get a nice mislynch, doesnt matter if it makes sense as long as it casts suspicion, amirite katina Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 06:52 Katina wrote:
On May 23 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Regardless of his alignment nova seems to post a lot. Over the span of a week in games where he was scum and town he had 8-10 pages of filter in both.
Only his first game seems to be an anomaly with 5 pages after 9-10 days but that's still quite a lot (especially for a newbie game)
So why is it, Katina, that you're trying to pass off Nova's spam as exclusively a scum trait?
I'm not. I'm just saying he has done it before. OWAIT NOOOO dont get me wrong im not trying to say that hes scum because of it! im just suggesting its a possibility11!!!!! Do i seriously need to explain this Then theres some wonderful sheeping on the "mattchews posting is cute but maybe hes scum" Good job saying nothing original (again) WIFOM: Katina was one of ET's main suspects that he was fine with lynching, but wasnt noticed very much Same meta as scum Katina [b]##Vote: Katina
this is a good case, sorry i missed it. more people should read this and give their thoughts
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On May 25 2012 06:30 Mattchew wrote:
ps. its not my fault if you couldn't understand my posts when i was using flavor, I made the message in each one pretty fucking simple and usually revolving around one or two words
Because a one or two word opinion is worth everything?
What do you think of this guy? townie. What about him? stupid. Who is scum and with what reasoning? Mr moobumballs because the sun is low in the sky. Great.
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On May 25 2012 06:33 Mattchew wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 25 2012 01:24 Nova_Terra wrote:Hi, im going to take a brief bit of time to go over my favorite for todays lynch, Katina. Note the word brief, her filter is 12 posts. 6 of which is 1 or 2 liners. Now lets go and check a game where Katina was scum, TL Mafia LIV. In her filter: Posts at the same rate as this game, aka lurking (until she gets modkilled day1) posting aggressively when she actually posts quoting to look like shes contributing to quote katina, What is she doing this game? ... ... Same thing! First post Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 01:57 Katina wrote:
Hi guys, just finished reading through the thread (not that it was much to read) I like how people jumped onto the VE votes like little school girls licking lollipops and followed the teacher. We are how far into day one? and there are only a few pages and not much to go on as in terms of scum hunting. I agree that Navillus looks a little suspicious at the moment. I will be rereading the thread and taking a closer look at what we have so far. Okay, so immediately we have complaining about other peoples votes while offering nothing, saying theres nothing to scum hunt with (yeah thanks for that) a Navillus scummy bandwagon, and a promise for some closer look soon. Only a day and 3 hours later does she actually make a post with any sort of "closer look". Second post Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 07:25 Katina wrote:On May 22 2012 05:52 froggynoddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 22 2012 05:29 Tunkeg wrote:
Reads d1 of Day1
Acrofalis/Marvellosity:
Leaning town based on Acrofalis aggression while he was in game. He tried to get this game going, and tried to apply some pressure.
EchelonTee:
Leaning town. He went into a fight with Acrofalis from the get go, and haven't been afraid to stick his head out.
Zealos
Get some scumvibes off him. He started the game by voting VE as number two, without a good reason. He claims it to be a joke later (which it might be). He then proceeds to vote Acrofales based on ET's case, and because of meta, basicly sheeping ET. The rest of his filter seems very empty, even though he got more post than most in this game. Some townpoints for actually bother to answer questions.
Mattchew
He might be one of those I called out for not posting earlier, that is a scum. I don't know what he is trying to do, but if his postingstyle continues this way he will be disruptive townie at best, and sabotaging scum at worst. Leaning scum for now.
Nova_Terra
Leaning scum. He was active at the start, but unlike Acrofalis his attempts at pushing seems more forced, and with no real weight behind it. His whole postingstyle seems very non-commital and gives me scumvibes.
Also Navillus need to get in the thread and do some more. His vote on WBG is the only thing he have done. And it was done without much reasoning, and in my opinion strange reasoning.
PS: I know you guys don't like list. But I want to do lists so bare with me.
PS 2: This is not an analysis post. It is a read post. When I am ready to put my vote down on someone I will try to make a good case/analysis on them. Exception is if there is a great case on them that I agree with, then I will be open about sheeping it, and probably just add some of my own reasoning to it.
This list... serves no purpose other than making you look active. Town reads are worse than useless day 1 as 1. they are even weaker than day 1 scumreads and 2. points to scum who to kill to cause confusion. EDIT: There was more but WBG and Navillus covered it whilst I was writing + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote:
Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot.
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##Vote: Mattchew
As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.
On N_T yes VE and WBG I'd say he's using pretty bad method of scumhunting/analysis and his vote is for a dumb reason, but that doesn't make him scum and aside from clear-cut examples of someone being useless or disruptive (such as restricting their posts to text from a card game) it's a bad idea to lynch someone for bad play, in my experience it's rarely a scumtell and depending on how they're playing badly it can be more of a town tell.
Tunkeg you asked a bunch of questions earlier, most of them were ignored, was there any point to them? Why don't you care that people didn't answer you/why aren't you following up? Also why post that list, if you have scum reads why aren't you just pressuring them instead of telling them, and how does telling everyone your town-reads do anything but let scum know who you think is townie and so light them up as targets?
Holy spam batman! NT scum or town please stop with multiple one or two line posts in a row, it's distracting and makes the thread harder to read through, consolidate. How is voting for Mattchew due to his posting style (which you consider to be *Bad*) different to voting N_T based on bad play? I don't necessarily disagree with you I just think you're being a little inconsistent. Shoot I forgot to unvote as promised: ##Unvote
##Vote KatinaInactive players kill town. Katina, my vote stays on you until you make an appearance. I made an apperance earlier today. Do you not read over the thread my dear? On May 22 2012 03:27 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 22 2012 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2012 21:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
Hey VE since you seem to want to ignore my challenge who do you wanna kill Hey Nova, since you seem to want to ignore my question to you (something that's actually USEFUL to this game, unlike your "challenge"), how about you actually answer it instead of trying to distract town with meaningless drivel? I'll even repost it for your convenience. On May 21 2012 08:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2012 05:59 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 21 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Whether or not advice is good has nothing to do with the alignment of a player, just the same as making a plan, regardless of how good it is, is generally not indicative of alignment.
If the advice makes sense, follow it. If not, don't. The question of "is this guy scum" has nothing to do with that. I never said that it has anything to do with indicacating the alignment of the player,i said that general advice seems to be contributing but isnt really. and that its just as likely mister helpful is scum, etc. Your style has so far been laced with an air of giving advice to the other players - in what way is Bugs' post giving advice any different from, say, you warning that "players trying to give advice could be scum"? ooh i forgot about that Its different because its not all i've done and because i know im town and its not really different itself, but i was aware of the hypocrisy before i made teh post I would to bring attention to this lovely post. N_T might be the BM version 2! I say this because of his spam, oneliners, and the fact he seems to be refreshing the thread every 5 minutes. When BM is mafia he always over emphasizes that he is confirmed town. Such things are silly to say and provide no help to the town I will be setting my vote. ##Vote Nove_TerraBased on his fliter, he seems to more interesting in proving his innocence then trying to find the Mafia. Then we have a wonderfully awful case against myself, decides to link me to another player and therefore i am mafia (lolwut) This post is also wonderful because once gets accused of lurking... NO LOOK I WAS HERE BEFORE READ READ READ WHY U NO READ So so far we have a silly case and vote that adds suspicion to players with no logical reasoning, getting defensive when called out on totally true lurking, and meta that is the exact same as her last games scum meta Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 08:07 Katina wrote:On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote:
hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_Terra I was reading through filters and came across this post. It is just O.o This post does not have a purpose. It feels forced. Almost like he didn't really want to post but knew that he had to. I'm not saying we should kill him but that a finger of suspicion should be pointed onto him. He just played the noob card in his post. I'm always wary of those people. They don't tickle my fancy. Oh cool, now we have a secondary target being thrown out, but not only is this post throwing out a secondary target... Its pretty much doing the same thing as Katina was pointing out here, and more importantly shes asking for someone to do the dirty work for her. Im not sure we should but he should be suspicious everybody notice i do stuff. Now heres the first real "closer look post" Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 04:19 Katina wrote:Sorry, I'm here now. I had a very busy day yesterday but it's all good now. On May 21 2012 04:45 Nova_Terra wrote:
Yaaaaaay!
Should we get rid of a veteran? should we? I THINK SO :D
##Vote: VisceraEyes On May 22 2012 01:26 Nova_Terra wrote:
as of yet i would be fine with either a Navillus or WBG lynch On May 22 2012 04:34 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 22 2012 04:16 froggynoddy wrote:Hello, finally recovered from weekend (did not expect this game to start so early). Hello Marv : I'm almost tempted to policy vote you due to how scary good you played with me as scum in LIV. Policy lynches are bad though so your safe until you post more. I don't think WBG's opening comment is alignment charged. there are equal reasons for both town and scum to open up D1 with general common sense posts. From the 2 games I've played (Noobie VIII and TLMafia LIV) and N_T has been lurky/bored as townie and hyper-active as scum. Just saying. Navillus, despite still being a noob I am strongly against a 'voting against vets' policy. It makes no sense and seems hugely anti-town, unless its a joke. Let me know if it is because until then ##Vote Navillus[/b Rofl, well thats interesting, it looks like i just went through your newbie game (snmmIX not VIII, bitch to find) and in that game there was an understanding that my town meta was very very active which i ended up failing at as scum, and my meta change was frequently noted in cases against me. Very interesting that you would want to try to make this conclusion. what reason would there be other than scum? ##Unvote
##Vote: Froggynoddy On May 22 2012 14:24 Nova_Terra wrote:
On May 22 2012 14:18 EchelonTee wrote:
acid, jeb, katina, or no lynch
i think one of those should happen
in no particular order froggy, katina, WBG Okay.... please tell me you guys have seem how inconsistent N_T is. Take a look at his filter. He opens with going after VE right off the back with close to no reasoning except he that he might be a veteran. Then he proceeds to spew out short useless posts. He is throwing doubt around the town and is picking at everyone. I don't need to tell you guys he's spamming relentlessly. As I said before he seems more interested in proving his own innocence than trying to find mafia. This is shown by how he is trying to kill anyone he can. Instead of just focusing on one or two players. First part of the post is literally the exact same excuse as LIV where she says that she had a busy night so apologies apologies, good job Then is this awful reasoning that i am scum, looks like to me once she realized that my vote got sufficient traction it was time to bandwagon a real reason for hers Problem is, the reasons are bull. So right now it appears that she opposes pressure (apparently pressuring a veteran isnt ok) and its a problem that i picked at "everyone" (actually 6 people, 15 people in town. i dont see the problem). Furthermore, as she had just been in a game with me, i would assume she knows how i post spammily and this shouldnt be surprising to her. Unless she rolled scum, and is bullshitting, that is. Apparently its a bad thing to not only focus on 1 or 2 players (what? trying to limit a vote where there is no no-lynch?) Then theres a couple worthless short defenses of herself. then this wonderful gem: ..... Not only is this completely stupid to have not seemed to read the thread, she says that my spam is similar to a game i played mafia in But wait, i was just in a game with you where i was town AND I SPAMMED So now shes just throwing shit to try to get a nice mislynch, doesnt matter if it makes sense as long as it casts suspicion, amirite katina Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 06:52 Katina wrote:
On May 23 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Regardless of his alignment nova seems to post a lot. Over the span of a week in games where he was scum and town he had 8-10 pages of filter in both.
Only his first game seems to be an anomaly with 5 pages after 9-10 days but that's still quite a lot (especially for a newbie game)
So why is it, Katina, that you're trying to pass off Nova's spam as exclusively a scum trait?
I'm not. I'm just saying he has done it before. OWAIT NOOOO dont get me wrong im not trying to say that hes scum because of it! im just suggesting its a possibility11!!!!! Do i seriously need to explain this Then theres some wonderful sheeping on the "mattchews posting is cute but maybe hes scum" Good job saying nothing original (again) WIFOM: Katina was one of ET's main suspects that he was fine with lynching, but wasnt noticed very much Same meta as scum Katina [b]##Vote: Katina this is a good case, sorry i missed it. more people should read this and give their thoughts
I did try to delve into a specific part of it, but it didn't get me very far for some reason
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On May 25 2012 06:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 06:30 Mattchew wrote:
ps. its not my fault if you couldn't understand my posts when i was using flavor, I made the message in each one pretty fucking simple and usually revolving around one or two words Because a one or two word opinion is worth everything? What do you think of this guy? townie. What about him? stupid. Who is scum and with what reasoning? Mr moobumballs because the sun is low in the sky. Great.
You cannot possible be this fucking stupid, the entirety of day 1 I pushed mouldy jeb, I guess now I wish I had pushed someone else, but I don't think any of my reasoning was flawed (I mean why would a townie knowingly die and not give ANY reads)... This is because i thought he was scum and we only have 1 lynch. At night I gave my overall reads incase i were to die. Shut the fuck out up about being unclear, you have more meaningless one liners than I do dipshit
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I also have more meaningful content than you, you douchebag twat.
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On May 25 2012 06:40 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 06:36 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2012 06:30 Mattchew wrote:
ps. its not my fault if you couldn't understand my posts when i was using flavor, I made the message in each one pretty fucking simple and usually revolving around one or two words Because a one or two word opinion is worth everything? What do you think of this guy? townie. What about him? stupid. Who is scum and with what reasoning? Mr moobumballs because the sun is low in the sky. Great. You cannot possible be this fucking stupid, the entirety of day 1 I pushed mouldy jeb, I guess now I wish I had pushed someone else, but I don't think any of my reasoning was flawed (I mean why would a townie knowingly die and not give ANY reads)... This is because i thought he was scum and we only have 1 lynch. At night I gave my overall reads incase i were to die. Shut the fuck out up about being unclear, you have more meaningless one liners than I do dipshit
He's got you there Matt - you've only just started typing and calling people stupid - I barely call what you were doing before "meaningful content". However well I was able to understand what you were saying, most people didn't even want to try and that makes your contributions during that phase meaningless. Entirely, actually.
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On May 25 2012 06:41 marvellosity wrote:
I also have more meaningful content than you, you douchebag twat.
this is highly debatable
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We've already spent half a day waving dicks around. Lets not start another testosterone fuelled duel.
@Matt: you feel like your Roleplay style was as clear as writing in sentences, yet you switch to playing normal once you see that you need to intervene forcibly. This implies that even you found it hard to communicate all that needed to be said.
@Marv: Unless you feel like Matt's style was scummy I suggest you back off. Matt seemed to have switched for the good of town rather than to save himself. This to me gives Matt some credit. I for one did not find his roleplay scummy though I do think it limited his content.
Now kiss and make up... unless you think the other is scum, if so write a case.
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On May 25 2012 06:43 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 06:40 Mattchew wrote:On May 25 2012 06:36 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2012 06:30 Mattchew wrote:
ps. its not my fault if you couldn't understand my posts when i was using flavor, I made the message in each one pretty fucking simple and usually revolving around one or two words Because a one or two word opinion is worth everything? What do you think of this guy? townie. What about him? stupid. Who is scum and with what reasoning? Mr moobumballs because the sun is low in the sky. Great. You cannot possible be this fucking stupid, the entirety of day 1 I pushed mouldy jeb, I guess now I wish I had pushed someone else, but I don't think any of my reasoning was flawed (I mean why would a townie knowingly die and not give ANY reads)... This is because i thought he was scum and we only have 1 lynch. At night I gave my overall reads incase i were to die. Shut the fuck out up about being unclear, you have more meaningless one liners than I do dipshit He's got you there Matt - you've only just started typing and calling people stupid - I barely call what you were doing before "meaningful content". However well I was able to understand what you were saying, most people didn't even want to try and that makes your contributions during that phase meaningless. Entirely, actually.
um, so now im blamed for people not wanting to put 2 seconds of effort into the reading my posts?
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I just don't know in what world posts like this are supposed to be clear or helpful:
On May 24 2012 06:06 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew what do you think of Zealos after marvel's case? I found it pretty convincing myself...I was already a little suspicious of him though so it wasn't going to take much. + Show Spoiler [The Entire Zealos Case] +On May 23 2012 23:18 Zealos wrote:Could I just point out how "Active" Marvel has been all game, without making any real cases himself. He seems very good at pointing out problems, asking questions and what not, but I want to know who you want to kill and whyNot to mention from the very start he distances himself from Acro, instead of trying to make himself look more innocent: I understand the reasoning, but it seems like a free copout for acro's scummy posting. Not to mention he makes a lot of small posts with very little use for them other than to seem active. Show nested quote +no u
My point is that townies should in general strive to be as lucid and clear as possible. Don't give a flying two hoots what you think, if Mattchew just talks in plain text, it will achieve this better than speaking in MTG speak or whatever.
Frankly I'm bored with the sheer quantity of townies who seem to not want to do this. Hence the vote. (ironic) The point is, useful townies don't use the thread as a place to have a conversation, they use it to root out scum. So Marvellosity, you've got 4 bullets in your gun, who dies and why?
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On May 25 2012 06:45 froggynoddy wrote:
@Matt: you feel like your Roleplay style was as clear as writing in sentences, yet you switch to playing normal once you see that you need to intervene forcibly. This implies that even you found it hard to communicate all that needed to be said.
theres only so many MTG cards too chose from. I was running out and there's not many that say STOP THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW
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On May 25 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote:I just don't know in what world posts like this are supposed to be clear or helpful: Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 06:06 Mattchew wrote:On May 24 2012 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew what do you think of Zealos after marvel's case? I found it pretty convincing myself...I was already a little suspicious of him though so it wasn't going to take much. + Show Spoiler [The Entire Zealos Case] +On May 23 2012 23:18 Zealos wrote:Could I just point out how "Active" Marvel has been all game, without making any real cases himself. He seems very good at pointing out problems, asking questions and what not, but I want to know who you want to kill and whyNot to mention from the very start he distances himself from Acro, instead of trying to make himself look more innocent: I understand the reasoning, but it seems like a free copout for acro's scummy posting. Not to mention he makes a lot of small posts with very little use for them other than to seem active. Show nested quote +no u
My point is that townies should in general strive to be as lucid and clear as possible. Don't give a flying two hoots what you think, if Mattchew just talks in plain text, it will achieve this better than speaking in MTG speak or whatever.
Frankly I'm bored with the sheer quantity of townies who seem to not want to do this. Hence the vote. (ironic) The point is, useful townies don't use the thread as a place to have a conversation, they use it to root out scum. So Marvellosity, you've got 4 bullets in your gun, who dies and why?
It meant that I thought
a. the zealos case on you was basically nothing (due to the spoiler title) and
b. that you were both town pissing at each other in an attempt to find scum
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