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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 00:52 GMT
#588
Acid what do you think about EchelonTees? You kinda didn't mention anything that's happened since the flip, what are your thoughts on the more vocal players (marvellosity, Nova_Terra, Zealos to name a few)?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 03:33 GMT
#590
Fine bugs, I was gonna wait, but I prepared a post JUST FOR YOU BRO
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 03:35 GMT
#591
wherebugsgo

I realized after my back and forth with Bugs and Hiro that I'm allowing my emotions to rule the way I look at the game. As a result, I've gone back to try and objectively look at the people I'm suspicious of. But as soon as I opened up wherebugsgo and started reading his filter, I realized that this post would ultimately be about wherebugsgo (more specifically, about his first post).

I took a look at his advice post. I have to say, I'm a little disturbed with what I saw. Generally I overlook posts like this when they come from veteran players, mainly because it's typically common sense stuff that I at least am already aware of and have read several times every game. So, admittedly, when I was defending Bugs for posting this initially, I was doing so having not fully read the actual post. That being said, all in all none of what he gives is TERRIBLE advice (in general) but I have a couple of problems with some of his advice.

5. Medics/JK: don't bluehunt, just protect the most sensible townies.

At first, I thought this sounded pretty good, but then I thought about the source: who is likely to be the most "sensible townie" at the end of the day? I'll give you a hint - it's an anagram of George W Bush. Regardless of alignment, wherebugsgo is going to be playing like a vanilla townie. Why? Because as a town blue-role, that's the most successful way to play. As scum, that's the most successful way to play. As any role imaginable, that's the most successful way to play. wherebugsgo is a very crafty individual, and so to me #5 actually reads something like "don't bluehunt, just protect me" based on the knowledge I have of wherebugsgo's typical play. If he had said this at the end of the day, I wouldn't have blinked...but saying it at the beginning of the day, planting the notion right at the outset of the game comes across as playing with an agenda.

6. Vigis: don't be MrZentor (case in point: Game of Thrones)

Again, having cohosted GoT I was aware of what he was talking about so I didn't really think about the implications of this piece of advice. However, upon reflection, this feels really out of place in the rest of his (semi-reasonable) advice. Look at the tone: in the points previous when directing blue roles, he gave fairly sound reasoning behind saying the things he is - but not when directing the vigs. He left it up to the reader to discover the reasoning (giving a player and a game and expecting the reader to do the legwork).

This is similar to a scum tactic I'm always looking for - bloating up their perceived activity while simultaneously causing the accuser to look bad for "not reading" - "L2READ N00B I answered that already" instead of simply repeating what was already said in an earnest attempt to be understood.

Anyway, all general advice and all stuff most of you should know, but read it over anyway.

This has been touched on by others, but I'd like to reiterate that if this was all "general advice and all stuff most of you should know", then why post it in the first place and why instruct everyone to "read it anyway"? The obvious answer, as Nova_Terra would tell you (again) is "Because he could be scum pushing an agenda"…which is precisely what I think is going on.

Is it possible that it's just a coincidence that scum went blue-hunting last night? Sure, it's possible…but it's my belief that it was planned from the beginning that scum weren't going to be aiming for analysts or "townies making sense" last night - they were going to be blue-hunting last night.

Is it possible that Bugs was just trying to make a light-hearted jab at MrZentor (someone not even playing this game) in his advice to Vigs? Sure that's possible, but not likely considering A) Zentor isn't in this game and B) given the tone of the rest of his post (cold, analytical advice), the "joke" seems out of place.

That brings us to his word of advice concerning dealing with VE.

I don't support policy lynching but I do agree we should keep an eye on VE because his play can be quite erratic. If he's the focus of attention as either alignment it becomes very difficult to discern what he is. So for now I think we should look elsewhere so we don't have that problem, and let VE decide for himself what he wants to do.

The thing that gets me is the disconnect between the two bolded statements. If everyone is "keeping an eye on me" then I'm going to be the focus of attention. But if I'm the focus of attention, I'll be "more difficult to read" yeah? Ultimately, he says to "look elsewhere", but not before already casting the shadow of doubt on me in his very first post. So yeah, even this is suspect to me, and NOT because it's about me. Because it's contradictory and doesn't make any sense.

##Unvote: Zealos
##Vote: wherebugsgo


Let's do this bugs. Not later. Now. If we both live until tomorrow this is happening anyway, so let's just get it over with. I think you're scum. It's your turn to think I'm scum and vote for me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 03:47 GMT
#593
On May 24 2012 12:46 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
wherebugsgo

I realized after my back and forth with Bugs and Hiro that I'm allowing my emotions to rule the way I look at the game. As a result, I've gone back to try and objectively look at the people I'm suspicious of. But as soon as I opened up wherebugsgo and started reading his filter, I realized that this post would ultimately be about wherebugsgo (more specifically, about his first post).

I took a look at his advice post. I have to say, I'm a little disturbed with what I saw. Generally I overlook posts like this when they come from veteran players, mainly because it's typically common sense stuff that I at least am already aware of and have read several times every game. So, admittedly, when I was defending Bugs for posting this initially, I was doing so having not fully read the actual post. That being said, all in all none of what he gives is TERRIBLE advice (in general) but I have a couple of problems with some of his advice.

5. Medics/JK: don't bluehunt, just protect the most sensible townies.

At first, I thought this sounded pretty good, but then I thought about the source: who is likely to be the most "sensible townie" at the end of the day? I'll give you a hint - it's an anagram of George W Bush. Regardless of alignment, wherebugsgo is going to be playing like a vanilla townie. Why? Because as a town blue-role, that's the most successful way to play. As scum, that's the most successful way to play. As any role imaginable, that's the most successful way to play. wherebugsgo is a very crafty individual, and so to me #5 actually reads something like "don't bluehunt, just protect me" based on the knowledge I have of wherebugsgo's typical play. If he had said this at the end of the day, I wouldn't have blinked...but saying it at the beginning of the day, planting the notion right at the outset of the game comes across as playing with an agenda.

6. Vigis: don't be MrZentor (case in point: Game of Thrones)

Again, having cohosted GoT I was aware of what he was talking about so I didn't really think about the implications of this piece of advice. However, upon reflection, this feels really out of place in the rest of his (semi-reasonable) advice. Look at the tone: in the points previous when directing blue roles, he gave fairly sound reasoning behind saying the things he is - but not when directing the vigs. He left it up to the reader to discover the reasoning (giving a player and a game and expecting the reader to do the legwork).

This is similar to a scum tactic I'm always looking for - bloating up their perceived activity while simultaneously causing the accuser to look bad for "not reading" - "L2READ N00B I answered that already" instead of simply repeating what was already said in an earnest attempt to be understood.

Anyway, all general advice and all stuff most of you should know, but read it over anyway.

This has been touched on by others, but I'd like to reiterate that if this was all "general advice and all stuff most of you should know", then why post it in the first place and why instruct everyone to "read it anyway"? The obvious answer, as Nova_Terra would tell you (again) is "Because he could be scum pushing an agenda"…which is precisely what I think is going on.

Is it possible that it's just a coincidence that scum went blue-hunting last night? Sure, it's possible…but it's my belief that it was planned from the beginning that scum weren't going to be aiming for analysts or "townies making sense" last night - they were going to be blue-hunting last night.

Is it possible that Bugs was just trying to make a light-hearted jab at MrZentor (someone not even playing this game) in his advice to Vigs? Sure that's possible, but not likely considering A) Zentor isn't in this game and B) given the tone of the rest of his post (cold, analytical advice), the "joke" seems out of place.

That brings us to his word of advice concerning dealing with VE.

I don't support policy lynching but I do agree we should keep an eye on VE because his play can be quite erratic. If he's the focus of attention as either alignment it becomes very difficult to discern what he is. So for now I think we should look elsewhere so we don't have that problem, and let VE decide for himself what he wants to do.

The thing that gets me is the disconnect between the two bolded statements. If everyone is "keeping an eye on me" then I'm going to be the focus of attention. But if I'm the focus of attention, I'll be "more difficult to read" yeah? Ultimately, he says to "look elsewhere", but not before already casting the shadow of doubt on me in his very first post. So yeah, even this is suspect to me, and NOT because it's about me. Because it's contradictory and doesn't make any sense.

##Unvote: Zealos
##Vote: wherebugsgo


Let's do this bugs. Not later. Now. If we both live until tomorrow this is happening anyway, so let's just get it over with. I think you're scum. It's your turn to think I'm scum and vote for me.

"No good will come of this."


Unless you wanna drop the act and come talk to me about why, then mind your business...this is between me and the jerk.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 03:58 GMT
#595
Can I assume you disagree with my points then Mattchew? Because otherwise there's nothing in what you're saying that's convincing me of bugs' towniness in any way.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 04:04 GMT
#596
Unless you're saying that I can't get him lynched just because he's bugs - that you agree that he could probably be scum and that lynching him now, today, is impossible...to which I respond "LOL!!!", obviously the caps and triple exclamation are intentional.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 04:55 GMT
#598
On May 24 2012 13:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
Let's do this bugs. Not later. Now. If we both live until tomorrow this is happening anyway, so let's just get it over with. I think you're scum. It's your turn to think I'm scum and vote for me.


So it's clear that you WANT me to retaliate and call you scum?

Well, I could, but then what would happen? The thread would explode, discussion would be quelled, and even if you flip scum there still wouldn't be much forward progress.

Most of that post is just stretching to the extreme. I find it hard to believe that a townie would do such a thing, but you have done equally, if not more perplexing things before as town. For example, listing Ace and myself as your top 2 scumreads in liar game simply because you didn't like our playstyles. Or saving sandro just cause you felt like a rebel.

So, if you are indeed scum, I'd rather just kill all your buddies first, and then leave you for last. Why? Since, if you are indeed scum, you'll be a bit more afraid to shoot me. Why else would you be concerned about balance? I've never heard you use a balance argument before as town and I would never have expected you to start now.

I'm going to wait on Acid to respond to my posts. As long as you're trying to kill me though, I'm going to ignore you from now on, though. Sadly I don't have a gun or I'd have talked with that instead of words.






So you're just gonna keep doing what you're doing eh? Ignoring me? Sounds good bro, that's what I was expecting in the first place.

*thumbsup, high-five, etc. etc.*

For the record, it's much easier to scumhunt with me when you're actually responding to me. You wouldn't know because you ignore me in virtually every game we play in together....but I digress.

TL;DR

Bugs is saying he's gonna ignore me after ignoring me all game. LOL
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 04:56 GMT
#599
Oh also, balance isn't even a part of my arguement....but you know...you'd know that if you'd actually read it. Since you're scum though, I understand that you couldn't be bothered.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 06:17 GMT
#606
On May 24 2012 14:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
Be prepared for VE to call you scum again, whether true or not :p

Since my original post got buried:

Acid, thoughts on Zealos and Tunkeg please, since you ignored talking about them earlier. Perhaps thoughts on froggy and VE as well.


Call him scum again? I've explained, in detail, why I think you two are scum TOGETHER. Me calling him scum "again" doesn't prove anything about anyone except that I still believe what I said I believe before dawn.


On May 22 2012 16:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Bugs, I loathe to talk about my reads with you for balance reasons, but everyone else has forsaken us.

How confident are YOU that Nova is scum? I feel like he went limp kinda quick, but aside from that has at least quit posting scummily. Whether that's just because he's quit posting is obviously up for debate. Combined with the fact that he's got so many people going "Meta him bro" and the fact that he's all "Meta me bro" and it just looks really bad.

But something doesn't feel right - like, he seems like TOO easy a target, ya know?


This was what I asked after bugs has been asking Katina if she's sure Nova is scum. Here is bugs' following post.

On May 23 2012 04:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sorry all, I became really sick overnight. Feeling quite a bit better now, though.

I'm fine with killing Katina, VE, and mold man, in that order.

Katina normally reads the thread and she usually has more than one read. She also at the very least explains herself to townies. It's clear that she's deliberately ignoring my questions, possibly because she doesn't actually believe in her "case" on Nova (i.e she is scum)

By the time I asked Katina the first time how sure she was of Nova being scum I had started to think he was town. Now, it is day 1, and I may be completely wrong about my assessment, but the way the bandwagons have gone today suggest either that both nova and mouldy are town or that one of them is scum. Based on the nova votes just now I'm inclined to think mouldy is scum.

Of course, we'll never know the truth unless they flip. As there's not much time left in the day I think we should kill mouldy.

If anyone else agrees with me that we should kill Katina or VE, let me know and perhaps we can get a vote switch going. I'll be around till deadline.

##unvote
##vote Mouldy Jeb


PS. Anyone notice that Katina says she hates people using the noob card, but hasn't really expressed suspicion of mouldy? (at least, from what I recall)


Now, I put it to town to decide. Did bugs satisfactorily answer the question that I very specifically and very directly asked bugs?

I think not, myself. Bugs would have you believe that I'm "self-centered".

Well, let me try again.

Here's a question I posed of Bugs.

On May 22 2012 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
4/15 huh? 2 families of 2 I'm guessing? What do you think Bugs?


Does bugs respond? YES HE DOES!!!

On May 22 2012 05:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
4/15 huh? 2 families of 2 I'm guessing? What do you think Bugs?


??

I don't think that's balanced at all; normally a 16 player game has 4 mafia on one team. As this is a 15 player game I would expect that to be true as well.



Wait a second...sokaywait....you are only responding to things that matter, right?

Didn't you just write:

On May 24 2012 14:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
You say I'm ignoring you because you're either wholly self centered or scum. I address only what's necessary to address and nothing more, because information about reads in the hands of scum causes them to act differently.

Think about ET being shot, and reread some of the only posts made on him. Tunkeg made an ET accusation that was completely ignored. ET was relatively vocal, and from what I recall several people called him town.

Each time you've accused me of ignoring you both in this game and others there's two explanations: I'm afk when you are here or I've already addressed you and you simply don't find it satisfactory. My problem? Not really.

Anyway, if you want to work together then you might as well stop calling me scum, since I'm not.


...the bolded?

So in what way does "2 families vs 1 family" balance related question NEED to be addressed? How is that going to help us find scum?



if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 06:25 GMT
#608
I'm going to say this...one more time.

The fact that bugs and I are the only "veterans" in this game has nothing to do with my argument. I mentioned it one time as a joke in passing as I asked him a question. Balance is not a part of my argument whatsoever. At all.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 06:44 GMT
#612
On May 24 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Psh whatever, sleep is for the weak

Bugs, you have ignored yet another question I've directed at you. Please if you're town cooperate with me, this is getting old and fucking annoying. Are you still down with killing one of Zealos/Tunkeg?


On May 24 2012 12:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Acid you have nothing to say about either Zealos or Tunkeg?


Guys, maybe bugs is right...maybe I'm overreacting and he's not ignoring me.

/sarcasm

Like...and you say things like

On May 24 2012 14:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
Be prepared for VE to call you scum again, whether true or not :p

Since my original post got buried:

Acid, thoughts on Zealos and Tunkeg please, since you ignored talking about them earlier. Perhaps thoughts on froggy and VE as well.


...the bolded after saying

On May 24 2012 14:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
You say I'm ignoring you because you're either wholly self centered or scum. I address only what's necessary to address and nothing more, because information about reads in the hands of scum causes them to act differently.

Think about ET being shot, and reread some of the only posts made on him. Tunkeg made an ET accusation that was completely ignored. ET was relatively vocal, and from what I recall several people called him town.

Each time you've accused me of ignoring you both in this game and others there's two explanations: I'm afk when you are here or I've already addressed you and you simply don't find it satisfactory. My problem? Not really.

Anyway, if you want to work together then you might as well stop calling me scum, since I'm not.


...the bolded. You're being entirely contradictory and obviously manipulative. Like, where's your vote on Zealos or Tunkeg? You're trying to get town to focus on these guys, but liiiike....you're not voting for either one and you're not talking about who YOU find suspicious at all...just repeatedly asking others who is suspicious. Until they respond (Katina, Acid)....you know, what I'm being self-centered OR scum for doing.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 06:50 GMT
#613
Guys, this is in the bag. bugs, Nova, bang, bang. Half the scum dead. This is really happening, 2 scum down. We just have to make them die.

Join me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 06:59 GMT
#615
So but you're not scum for doing it but I am...got it. Well since you're here now what do you propose we talk about?

Yeah, I see what you mean about withholding information being strategically sound.
/sarcasm
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 07:01 GMT
#616
Let's pretend that Acid doesn't come back to respond. Now you can't answer my question and this time is even MORE of a waste. Your logic is pathetic bro.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 07:05 GMT
#617
On May 23 2012 04:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Sorry all, I became really sick overnight. Feeling quite a bit better now, though.

I'm fine with killing Katina, VE, and mold man, in that order.

Katina normally reads the thread and she usually has more than one read. She also at the very least explains herself to townies. It's clear that she's deliberately ignoring my questions, possibly because she doesn't actually believe in her "case" on Nova (i.e she is scum)

By the time I asked Katina the first time how sure she was of Nova being scum I had started to think he was town. Now, it is day 1, and I may be completely wrong about my assessment, but the way the bandwagons have gone today suggest either that both nova and mouldy are town or that one of them is scum. Based on the nova votes just now I'm inclined to think mouldy is scum.

Of course, we'll never know the truth unless they flip. As there's not much time left in the day I think we should kill mouldy.

If anyone else agrees with me that we should kill Katina or VE, let me know and perhaps we can get a vote switch going. I'll be around till deadline.

##unvote
##vote Mouldy Jeb


PS. Anyone notice that Katina says she hates people using the noob card, but hasn't really expressed suspicion of mouldy? (at least, from what I recall)


On May 24 2012 15:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm not addressing that specific question because I want acid to answer before I put forth my opinion.

If that wasn't painfully obvious maybe it is now that I've had to say it because the implication didn't get through your thickheadedness before.

@Navillus: truthfully I wasn't ever okay with a VE switch, I was unsure of him as I am now and wanted opinions. Sadly no one really came forth with any counter push or even thoughts so the only thoughts I have on VE are my own.

I have my own thoughts on most of the players but from experience it makes no sense to publicly share them until I feel like I have the information I want.

Katina, care to weigh in on who you want to lynch?


On May 24 2012 15:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
truthfully I wasn't ever okay with a VE switch


On May 23 2012 04:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm fine with killing VE


LMAO
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 07:08 GMT
#619
Like, bugs...you're not even trying guy! Why? Why do you only play really awful scum when I'm in the game with you?! You're supposed to be like, really good at scum man!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 07:09 GMT
#620
Just once I want to be like "Yup, I got fucked over by Bugs...but you know, he's just TOO GOOD" but I CAN'T! And I think it's BULLSHIT guy!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 07:25 GMT
#622
Meh. I tried. I used logic and reason and in the end I made a wrong decision. What happens if you succeed in diverting the lynch onto Zealos or Tunkeg and then they flip town? What happens to your little plan?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 07:27 GMT
#625
That's not surprising...I mean, she's only been calling for your head for like 2 days.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2012 07:31 GMT
#626
I think it's interesting how bugs is shocked to the point of incredulity when Acid doesn't mention Tunkeg or Zealos, but is perfectly content with Nova's lack of mentioning either one of them.

Ohhhhh, the dominooooooes....oooooooh, they falll for meeeeeeeee....
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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