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Tunkeg
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On May 25 2012 19:08 Tunkeg wrote: Yeah, really. Thats all you will be hearing from me for today. Do with it as you please... Or maybe I will post some right before the deadline. We'll see. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 25 2012 19:45 wherebugsgo wrote: because it totally makes sense to make a case on a person right before the LYNCH deadline, right? it still saddens me that I have to consider that you could possibly still be this dumb as town, but I'm going to go with the simpler route and assume you're scum. It won't be a case. don't worry. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 25 2012 19:57 wherebugsgo wrote: Well it's either a DT check or a case, neither of which are believable. Wrong again, there won't be any information that is relevant for todays lynch in it... | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 25 2012 20:15 wherebugsgo wrote: Then you have nothing of value. This is true. But I will write it anyways, if what I think (and actually now hope) will happend today happends. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 25 2012 20:23 zelblade wrote: To be fair most of that was a conversation with WBG. Tunkeg does look like scum who has given up though, seems like he isnt even trying anymore. But zealos first. @zealos who is the most likely to flip red today? Good observation. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 25 2012 20:33 wherebugsgo wrote: You hope a townie dies? Hahaha I wanna kill this guy right now Haha, you might say so... | ||
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Tunkeg
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting lynched at all. I think this game have taken the course as many games do, where everyone keep mouthing off about how everyone else is bad, stupid, fucking useless etc etc (I don't care if it is directed towards me or anyone else, for instance the way syllogism played in liars should be frowned upon be the entire community). This is an environment I don't want to play in. It annoys the fuck out of me that you guys aren't capable of playing this game through arguements, but have to resort to namecalling and domination techniques. It actually annoys me to such a degree that I can't read the thread properly, nor play the game properly, and start caring less and less about the game. If TL towns can't deal with badmouthing players ruining the townenvironment the scum will keep dominating. I have told Artonis to do as he please about it. I won't bate you into lynching me as long as you guys don't bate me into writing obvious "LYNCH ME!" stuff. | ||
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On May 26 2012 02:11 Zealos wrote: So, as you guys know, my thoughts on day 1 were.... to put it bluntly, bad. My main first case was against acro, which was valid at the time, however, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Marvel is a town player, so there was no point checking him. The other player I thought was a bit off was Zel. However, he was being super inactive and lurky at the time, so I expected him to be vigged, and so not worth the check. The reason I did check Hiro, however, is that he was one of the few people who didn't bother questioning me about Jeb. I stand by my decision to vote for him, but it raised a few eyebrows, and for good reason. Hiro on the other hand didn't think twice of it, and was happy to just watch us townies argue between ourselves. When he came out red, I *slightly* overreacted, hence, the moment I saw any reason to pile pressure on him, I took it, and hoped town would do the same. When this didn't happen, I subtly claimed in the hope one of the vets would see it. This is also why I asked earlier, that a vet would look over my filter and I asked "Is my few mafia traits the only thing that sticks out?" in the hope they would notice, and attempt to help me swing the votes over to Hiro. Take from this what you will. I am willing to bet on you being right. ##Unvote wherebugsgo ##Vote Hiro Pro | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 02:19 zelblade wrote: So the two of you dont find this claim extremely convenient and not a little suspect at all? It might be a scumtrick, but it is more likely that it is a real DT check. Ofcourse there is the chance that it is a framed check or a miller check, and then town is in big shit because we will kill Hiro, who then won't be scum, and Zealos who then is a real DT. But we should at least not kill Zealos this day. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 07:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Piss off bugs, I'm just done responding to you entirely. Me and marvel are going to win this for us, because marvel doesn't have to be insulting when he speaks to people. So go ahead and freak out about whether or not I'm scum. I know you're scum, so I'm just going to wait until town sees it too and not worry about it anymore. Hey VE, I am going to sheep my vote on to you. Partly because WBG is a fucking dick, and partly because you are the one that can win us this game. But you are wrong about marvel, he is pretty much as BM as it gets, non the less he is probably town this game. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 08:04 marvellosity wrote: I presume Tunkey gets mod-killed now he has a) had a warning for giving up b) called someone a fucking dick Calling for modkills are perfectly fine is it? | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 08:09 wherebugsgo wrote: lynch all liars. the fucking dick strikes again You want to have WBG modkilled as well the marv? Equality or? | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 08:09 wherebugsgo wrote: lynch all liars. the fucking dick strikes again This was before you started your BM crusade. And in fact I won't be picking fights, just to not shit up the thread, cause if I were to respond to every insult from you in this game, it would have been 20 pages of shitslining. So I'll leave it at that. I am playing to my winconditions by not replying to you anymore, and by sheeping VE. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 08:13 marvellosity wrote: Just for the giggles, I will explain without sarcasm. What did I do? I swore at Matt after he swore at me 3 times in a post What did wbg do? He used your own words in retaliation against a completely unfair insult from you. What did you do? You had a big strop about people being insulting, you basically gave up playing the game, and THEN you outrageously swore at someone without provocation. I get more insulted by WBG's you are stupid remark than being called a dick. So then it must be WBG 10 me 1 in this regard. I am not just talking about this game in your regard marv. I find you BM, thats all. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 08:18 marvellosity wrote: I think you mistake BM for aggressive. It's an extremely rare thing indeed where I will directly insult someone. Anyway, are we going to do some scumhunting today or are we going to wait for tomorrow? Who do people think are good lynch targets at the moment? Aggressive is good, and fine. If you make it with points. I would like to see you in any setting go up to someone and call them stupid, and not expect at least being called a dick. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote: So this is going to be a little game irrelevant, but it's true for me. this is a game, a game based on logic, information, emotion, and a variety of other things. Players like Palmar and I (among others) are quite aggressive in our approach, yes. I mention Palmar because he's probably the player I played most similarly to, simply through the number of games I played with him and the effectiveness of his style (though I didn't necessarily try to emulate his play). It's a style I use in debates as well; I'm not afraid to attack moral implications of certain beliefs or worldviews because I have a strong conviction for standing up for what one believes in. So far this game, though, I've refrained from using this style because newer players on the forum don't always respond the same way to it that older players did, and it renders the style somewhat ineffective. Up till about three pages ago I hadn't done anything in my normal style. I've been attacked on meta grounds for not being aggressive before as town. DFM2 comes to mind. LI comes to mind. Those are my recent town games. This game I wasn't attacked on meta grounds but I have been attacked for apparently being aggressive when I haven't been (which has made me really amused). It means one or a mixture of three things; I'm somehow aggressive without trying to, or I've cracked and I've started letting things slip, or I'm being misrepresented. I think it may be a mixture of all 3 but up till about 2-3 pages ago I don't think I had done anything to provoke anyone, until I called VE's argument trash and then the half brain comments. But this isn't a schooldebate. In a schooldebate pissing off the one you discuss with may work in your favour, as he get put off his game. This is why politicians can win debates simply by being better at domination techniques, while all they say is complete and utter nonsense. In this game players have to work together, at least to a certain degree. And pissing off and alianating players lead to a crappy environment. This happend to Cephiro in Liar, he got pissed off. He was right about Palmar all the way, but people picked on him, until he got infuriated, and then he was all of a sudden the bad guy. Same with Sheth, he was threatened that he should be banned because he "played against his wincondintions". I don't think they had a great experience in that game, and I don't think town got anything usefull out of them by this kind of attitude. I could mention many others incidents like it, but these are the most recent. Host can't and shouldn't do anything about it, the players should, because the only faction that gain anything from calling anyone dumb, or a case dumb is scum. Because a townie should explain why it is wrong, and not take the easy way of saying this is dumb, as it implies the person writing it is dumb, and shouldn't be listened to, shouldn't bother posting, shouldn't even play. A townie should encourage everyone to write, and write as open as they can, so the town can get a read on, and possible cooperate with the one writing. If someone think a person is writing something that is wrong or false or made up, beat them with arguements, not with cheap insults. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 08:52 marvellosity wrote: Tunkeg, if you spent half the time scumhunting as talking about arguing, we'd actually be getting somewhere  True. I'll try to calmdown by tomorrow and be of any use. | ||
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On May 26 2012 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote: No dude try and calm down now - there are people here and we can actually do some shit. -.- I'm starting to think this is futile. It is 02:00 and I am really tired. I will give you my imputs before going to bed though. HiroPro kind of remind me of Katina in BC:AC, pretty lurky and only comes in to tunnel on me. I didn't believe she was scum that time, when she was. I think it is a hard case to make that HiroPro is scum only based on his tunneling on me and that he was Zealos target for DT (last part is so deep into WIFOM land that it is hard to write anything but speculations). I think HiroPro should be left alive for tomorrow, and see how he plays in the days to come. Nova Terra and Mattchew I have suspected from mid day 1, and I am still suspicious. Out of these I find Mattchew most suspicious now. He is hardcore aggressive, borderline disruptive and in my view of the word very BM. His defense on Zealos I found very strange. He wrote this for instance: First to discover Zealos claim: Quick change of vote: On May 26 2012 02:18 Mattchew wrote: fuck this im not gonna be the one to lynch a claimed DT again ##unvote ##vote hiropro Seems "confuesed" about lynching our "DT": On May 26 2012 03:08 Mattchew wrote: heres where im baffled about you voting zealos, if he's scum like you think, hiro is scum too. if hes not scum, your lynching our detective, while you coulda been lynching a red-checked hiro Taking precoutions for his choice to stick with Zealos as DT: On May 26 2012 03:59 Mattchew wrote: Just realized Imma look like quite the piece of shit if zealos flips scum... w.e i think katina/hiro are scum Is baffeled again over town flipping the "DT": On May 26 2012 06:51 Mattchew wrote: why are we flipping a claimed DT this makes no sense its GoT all over again at worst we lose a VT in hiro at worst we lose a Det in Zealos I don't understand And the toping on the cake is this question: On May 26 2012 02:45 Mattchew wrote: Do millers flip miller on death In hindsight it is easy to see why he would be interested in knowing this. If we had lynched Hiro and he flipped green (and there were no miller reveal) scum would have used this to give us doubt about a Zealos lynch on day 3. I believe Mattchew is scum. And should be out focus target on day 3. | ||
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Tunkeg
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On May 26 2012 09:31 marvellosity wrote: Tunkeg: the problem I have with that case on Mattchew is that I can easily provide the town narrative for it as well. Probably. But from my point of view it seems scummy. I think he wanted to play the concerned town role, but I think he overdid it. If he was dead certain Zealos was town and had indicated it before I might have bought it. But remember his vote was on Zealos just before the DT claim, so he should be in doubt. And I don't think a doubting townie would push this much for either side, he would vote, give his reason and let it play out. | ||
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