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On May 27 2012 13:55 Blazinghand wrote:
You clearly didn't read the LIV filter I linked if you think somehow Grush wasn't given a chance to be a good townie.

On May 29 2012 12:53 jaj22 wrote:

Been staring at those, failed to find anything worth mentioning except papapanda's abdictation of responsibility on the Grush/Sinensis thing, which is probably in character for him. Honestly I'd be happy to kill anyone with fewer than five posts, because they're killing town. It's a long list.


Why? He's just a guy with two votes. Who's on your radar?

On May 30 2012 01:15 Forumite wrote:

It SHOULD have been the general opinion that Zealos was the scummiest, but noone talked about him, and Sinensis got lynched instead if Zealos. Whatever your own read was, there wasn´t enough of other people agreeing with you and I to kill Zealos. I tried to change that at the end of the day but I didn´t try hard enough.

My reasoning didn´t come from supersoft, he got my eye on Toades, but we reached the same conclusion on Zealos on our own, unless my subconcious is acting up. I waited until someone else, in this case Supersoft, revealed his own suspicions on Zealos before I did too. I got suspicious of him first when he claimed VT, and then for real with his preemptive defence of Toades. I called him out defending Toades, but didn´t push it too far, I didn´t want to spook him ahead of time, in case he was going to post more incriminating posts.

I actually prefer NOT posting more when a part of town is inactive, because if I spam then there´s more to catch up on. Anyway the most suspicious people during D1 are Zealos and Kita. Manason acted weird too. BH looked bad earlier, although less so after the sinensis-flip. I´m not sure how my read on you, austinmcc, changed with the flip, BH was agreeing with Sinensis, at least intitially, but you were defending him.

So I´d say my strongest unorthodox scumtell would be Manason.

On May 30 2012 02:24 Forumite wrote:
You are here, good, please stay. You´ve posted 3 times the last 2 days, so some more activity would be greatly appreciated.

What put you on my scumlist was one post full of odd earlier in the game.
The first paragraf is nothing new, of course Wiggles would, if scum, have to reaveal himself when he uses the pardon power, but so would any pardoner, it´s not like any of the candidates have said "Vote me for Vice-Mayor, and I´ll use the Pardon-power whenever I feel like it!".

The second paragraf is what made me suspicious. I´m not sure if you are telling scum to kill the mayor, or telling Town that they shouldn´t want to run for Mayor, or maybe you are saying that Town shouldn´t want to be Mayor because they´d die, which means those running are most likely scum. It´s a medium post, but it´s either a post about nothing, or very weird things indeed. I say you are a nervous scum trying to post something.

On May 30 2012 12:26 VisceraEyes wrote:


He's on the radar, but I don't know if there's enough support for his lynch yet. As you say, no one is really mentioning him and aside from a few people thinking his play is "odd" it doesn't seem like many people find him suspicious. I'm trying to get a GOOD lynch to happen, not MY lynch. MY lynch would be Kita.

On May 31 2012 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Your post doesn't have a conclusion prob. I assumed lynchers know their target because it would be an imbalanced role otherwise. I've never played in a game where a player's win condition is to lynch an unknown target.

I find the following players scummy and have listed them in the preference of lynching order.
VisceraEyes: case stated earlier
sToFu: Apologetic, lacks town tells
Mr. Wiggles: Band-wagoning, play has completely dropped off as promising to be a leader
strongandbig: stated ealier
Hassybaby: Active lurker. Refusing to contribute even after people have complained about his apathy.

I find the following having contributed little to nothing in the thread. I'd like each of them to comment about the above five names or bring up something meaningful to show that they care about showing that they are town. Otherwise, they should all be considered for vig shots.

Manason
GambitX32
Cwave
Hassybaby
Kenpachi
phagga
Hyaach
sToFu

On May 31 2012 12:40 kitaman27 wrote:


You stated that you wish to pressure me with your vote, but have not once explained your reasoning for voting me. Please provide a case (and I hope its more detailed than your views of those five)

On May 31 2012 12:52 kitaman27 wrote:


You want me to defend myself from the fact that your intuition tells you that I am scum? You've given me no case to respond to.

Does that mean your strongest scum read is based on a gut feeling? Nobody else has done anything this game that you actually find scummy?

On May 31 2012 13:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Dear Town:

What's strange is how many people are actually suspicious of Kitaman, yet how unwilling to lynch him we all are. Doesn't anyone else find that....strange? *sigh*

Can we please just lynch Kitaman? That's my most favoritest lynch and gosh, I think we have enough people to make it happen.

Pretty please?

Sincerely, VE

PS: I'm really going to try and make a case. He's a threat. <3

On June 01 2012 23:40 marvellosity wrote:


Remind me for a moment how a complete lack of scumhunting and voting for a townie lynch isn't scummy

On June 02 2012 00:13 Hyaach wrote:
no a no lynch on a VT is better than a no-lynch. a lynch on a claimed VIG is not better than a no-lynch. We had the other option of lynching Zealos and getting VE to shoot someone.

so ur reasoning is a lazy town whose not trying. scum mb?

On June 05 2012 05:59 marvellosity wrote:


I am confused,

I'm sure you said you were going to make a case on kita but I can't for the life of me find it

On June 05 2012 11:50 kitaman27 wrote:


Do you even believe what you're saying?

Of course the claim is verifiable. I saved Meapak on night one. If there is another medic who saved Meapak night one, then they role claim. If no medic claims, then my role is verified. You don't have to worry about letting me live indefinitely because no other medic claiming means I must be the one who made the save.

Are you honestly saying that a mislynch + 2 night hits is worth more than the non-existant medic's identity? Medics are nice, but if they have the opportunity to confirm a player as scum, then a role claim is more than worth giving up a day or two of their hidden identity.

Can someone else please come in here and talk some sense into the town?



Its the part in bold. Notice how I make no mention of the bugs hit.

I even breadcrumbed my actual role name. You can't get any clearer than this:

On June 05 2012 12:14 Hyaach wrote:
have to go school.
im actually leaning to believing Kitaman27 right now.

I urge town to read this case thorough before sheeping.


Manason needs to die.

On June 06 2012 02:58 EchelonTee wrote:
If no counter claim, mass switch to maju.

Any objections?

On June 06 2012 23:14 Toadesstern wrote:
Actually screw this guy. I'm not going to tell you guys a thing. This dude is retarded and this is bound to be some mafia plan to figure out who I'm going to mason or whatever else. If you're not this is a lesson for your next game austin: Think before posting. No mafia in the world would do what I claimed. NOT A SINGLE ONE.

On June 06 2012 23:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Actually screw everything I said about myself, about austin or about kita. We're NOT lynching kita today.

I have the most awesome plans of them all to combine all of our problems.
Kita claimed medic and mafia already lost their RB.
Here's the plan

• Lynch someone who's nick is not kita (right now it looks like mana although I'd prefer maju)
  
• I call out who I will mason at the very beginning of the night, OPENLY and I will choose to most townish looking guy around.
  
• If kita is a town medic he will medic that dude no matter what.
  

Either way we're good.:

• If the dude survives because they went for 2 other guys I'm not only confirmed but also mod-confirmed townie while kita remains the same as before. At the same time mafia went for 2 people who are looking not so townish which I am totally fine with.
  
• If the dude gets hit by one shot and kita saved him Kita's good and and I am mod-confirmed although that's not going to happen because no way mafia is that stupid.
  
• If the dude gets doublestacked Kita remains the same as before, will claim he mediced him no matter if he's town or mafia. I am still confirmed town just not mod-confirmed but we lost 1 townie instead of 2. I am very much liking that scenario as well.
  
• If we see 2 people dead and one of them is the dude kita was suppossed to protect / I masoned he's a goner.

Can anyone see drawbacks to that plan? I like it very much atm because we're probably going to maka mafia shoot into people they don't want to shoot or make them doublestack when they don't want to.

On June 07 2012 01:16 kitaman27 wrote:
lol austin. Save the tin foil hat for the aliens :p

As for a mafia Meapak, it seems very unlikely we have a serial killer due to the number of kp each night. The only scenario I can see is if scum double stacked someone and I stopped an assassin kp on meapak (unlikely) or I saved a traitor Meapak from a mafia kp (unfortunate, but not worth considering at this point).

Manason, I think a role claim might be appropriate. Also, could you explain why you chose to ignore my question earlier regarding your experience playing mafia? I think it is relavent considering your account was created only days before the game started.

I'm still thinking Wiggles might be the best way to go. A lot of push back for a player who has been practically afk.