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Everyone should ask themselves before they trust MZ's case on me:
If MZ was reading the thread, why was he discussing Kitaman with me D1? I may have dropped the ball when I was hardline against Toad for pardoner, but that's where my mistakes END bro. MZ would have you believe I've been anti-town ALL GAME. I challenge anyone to read my filter and see if they reach the same conclusion...I've been trying to find scum all game, and it should be apparent to anyone who cares to look.
Now, the question becomes: why do we REALLY want to lynch me? First of all, I'm a decent player. I'll help you guys find scum. Secondly, I'm friendly! I encourage a COOPERATIVE town environment. Thirdly, I'm a vig! I'm going to try and shoot scum!
MZ is taking advantage of the lazy town atmosphere. He posted a huge case on me that I doubt anyone read, but knows everyone will "agree" with because of its target and because of the fact that everyone in town wanted to lynch someone different until that point. Look at how maliciously aggressive he is against me! Why?! I mean, I get if he thinks I'm scum, but go read some of my interactions with Kita...I've thought he was scum most of the game, and I've managed to keep it relatively civil. Maybe that's a playstyle difference, I don't know...but I know that angering someone is no way to get information from them. If MZ were town, he would be concerned that he might not be right and would be more civil with me in hopes that in the "unlikely event" that I'm town, I could provide some insight for after I flip. MZ isn't interested.
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So you'd rather waste lynches on them later when the lynches matter way more
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Hey, I'm going to be out of town today, so I'm giving a heads up that I might not be back before the lynch.
I'm going to be switching my vote to VE. I thought he was town after his day 1 play, but the constant flip-flopping to try to look good and the nonsensical role-claim and breadcrumb have changed my mind. Basically, it looked like he kept changing his read due to pressure in the thread, and it ended up with him contradicting himself multiple times as he tried to wiggle out of the pressure. Then add on the claim that's very convenient and easy to fake as scum (along with a "breadcrumb" that shows nothing), and you have the reasons for my switch of opinion. I guess I was wrong about VE being town, as his play today has shown. =/
##Unvote: Gambit
##Vote: VisceraEyes
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I find the fact that Bugs is blindly trusting MZ's hit claim suspicious. I don't know if Bugs is scum, and his posts don't look scummy...but the fact that he's not even considering that Forumite could have been double-stacked (which is EXACTLY what I would have done as scum) and MZ is claiming a fake-hit. It's completely reasonable, and given what he knows now it should be a distinct possibility...but Bugs has called MZ "near-confirmed-town"...which is completely bullshit.
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OH LOOK WIGGLES IS BACK HI WIGGLES OH WIGGLES IS LEAVING SURPRISE SURPRISE!
I'd shoot Wiggles tonight if you guys let me live. I'm done with his BS.
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On June 01 2012 01:46 Mattchew wrote:
So you'd rather waste lynches on them later when the lynches matter way more
yes. Because that way we have a better start in the game and can analyze way more improving every single cycle from now on.
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Anyway, if I can be arsed I'll look for more scum that aren't Kita/MZ later. Probably not though considering how little anyone cares about reading what I write.
GG town.
Kill Scum.
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
You guys write too much....
I've been feeling under the weather the last few days, since we're going to Saudi Arabia and I needed like 3 shots to be allowed a visa (yay typhoid!) so I've spent most of the days sleeping and watching Dota, with the occasional games with Blazing and Wiggles (fuck yeah, void....)
I actually don't think the reasons for VE's lynch are that solid compared to the big one to me: this to me feels like his exact play in LIII. The random claim, the desperate defence to anyone who's talking to him. The only thing missing is Toad randomly claiming.
Also, in the series Gaz know Zim was an alien, and didn't care because he was so bad at it. I'm not sure she would be a town vig, but that's small speculation.
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On June 01 2012 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyway, if I can be arsed I'll look for more scum that aren't Kita/MZ later. Probably not though considering how little anyone cares about reading what I write.
GG town.
Kill Scum.
Sorry what, MZ is scum now?
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That's my theory. *shrug*
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His case is really bad. It's well written, but it's really really bad. It jumps to all kinds of conclusions making logical leaps and I can't understand why everyone thinks its so good.
Add to that the fact that he's not even considering the POSSIBILITY that he's mistaken, especially after the claim, and yeah I'm pretty confident.
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Oh, and I'm not writing a case on MZ. Don't even ask. LMAO
People can't even read the case I HAVE written, I'm not writing another one.
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I think we should also lynch everyone that says we are posting too much and then lurk themselves sorry hassy
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
Fuck sake...keep saying LIII...I mean LI
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
Hey, that means I'm not posting too much :3
SILVER LINING MATTCHEW
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Also, LMAO
DAT RESISTANCE-FREE LYNCH!
MZ seems to think I might be "leading the scumteam"....it seems to me that if that were the case, there would be more resistance to my lynch. *shrug*
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In area liii and magic the gathering ve did the same claim thing as town
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I still like my method of handling VE and Zealos but this is majority lynch and i'm sleeping now.
And Oh hi mr wiggles. so convenient to drop by!.
and then he goes off with his two votes.
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On June 01 2012 01:54 Hassybaby wrote:
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I actually don't think the reasons for VE's lynch are that solid compared to the big one to me: this to me feels like his exact play in LIII. The random claim, the desperate defence to anyone who's talking to him. The only thing missing is Toad randomly claiming.
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Exactly my thoughts. All the weird things happened once he got under pressure. He was looking fine on the "surface" before and again that's why I am disagreeing with WBG's argument that Town-VE does weird things.
Town-VE DOES weird things.
Not-Town-VE tries to not to weird things as much as he can until he gets under heavy pressure.
All the things that happened, all the things people consider scummy for a good reason , that's all stuff that happened afterwards and it never happened on it's own. That's the big difference here.
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Is it majority vote by deadline or majority vote at anytime of the day?
unvoted again because it was 13th vote and didnt want any ninja.
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EPT
