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you also should read my filter more often! all of you. dropped some truth already. + i want to apologize to wiggles first victim: i realized too late, that you were actually going to die. next time i'll yell much more at them. how retarded was that lynch... i think wiggles needs to die for not listening to the town at the end. i dont buy it that he wasnt around at deadline since he was the one who got elected. i think if zealos is scum, wiggles looks really bad and should die. i doubt that he'll be able to erase the doubts then. 70% chance he's scum if zealos is. | ||
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but why are you guys always trying so hard. Finding scum is a lot easier than you might think. Don't think around 3 corners. Try to catch the little things. Like that Zealos defends toad at a point when it was really useless to defend him. Neither was he in danger of getting lynched, nor is reducing the pressure that is currently put on a player helping the town. A reasonable explanation for his behaviour is that he's scum, he knows Toad is not. He wanted to get a little towncred. Or not even this, he just wanted to say something. Maybe Toad is even scum, too... See? There are plenty of reasonable explanations for his behaviour if he's scum and almost none if he's town. It's not a super strong case, but it is a case. Every other case so far except my toadcase (who is currently on ice until he's confirmed mason) was uncovered and not well thought out. Especially our lynch yesterday. That case was terrible. There was really nothing about it. I could write a lot about why this player was a bad lynch. From an overall gamepolicy point of view because we got no information - maybe some about wiggles - and an individual point of view, because he obviously was town. | ||
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On May 30 2012 00:45 jaj22 wrote: I considered defending Toad at that point. Why? Because I am bad fixd | ||
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no wait i filtered you. You're really bad. I first wanted to make a little joke, now i saw it's true. Any defense? Admitting you're scum could help it. | ||
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On May 30 2012 01:39 jaj22 wrote: Anything in particular or just my excessive tendency to defend people? I try to control that. Honestly I'm struggling this game. I have town reads (some only mild, but still) on the few players with a significant post count so I'm concentrating on trying to get everyone else posting. The game is played like that: You copy paste all playernames in an excel sheet. You read the thread and make little notes on your excel sheet (votes/posts/good ideas/bad ideas). Players you identify as town you color green, players that look bad you color red. You compare your reads to the reads of other people. sum up: less blabla. it is SO hard to read the novels you post in here! | ||
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On May 30 2012 01:46 supersoft wrote: The game is played like that: You copy paste all playernames in an excel sheet. You read the thread and make little notes on your excel sheet (votes/posts/good ideas/bad ideas). Players you identify as town you color green, players that look bad you color red. You compare your reads to the reads of other people. sum up: less blabla. it is SO hard to read the novels you post in here! oh wait i didn't wanted to tell you that. I wanted to tell all of you. It was a general thing. The thing i wanted to tell you is: I think your read on sinansisi was really bad. | ||
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On May 30 2012 01:49 supersoft wrote: oh wait i didn't wanted to tell you that. I wanted to tell all of you. It was a general thing. The thing i wanted to tell you is: I think your read on sinansisi was really bad. okay let's play a game: i give you a name and we both write down what we think about his posts and we'll trade it in like 20min (got to eat meanwhile): meapak_ziph | ||
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On May 30 2012 02:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Supersoft why do you keep quoting yourself and talking to yourself? Are you talking to someone else? yes. jaj22. but it seems like he's not avaliable | ||
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On May 28 2012 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: "Lots of people I don't know in this game, I would run for mayor but there are already a lot of candidates and I'd be happy with both ET and wiggles at the moment." On May 28 2012 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Dat attitude... Also dat logic failure. You lynch people for acting scummy, not because they fucked you over in the last game. You threw out a huge red herring there by comparing wiggles to grush. Unless wiggles decides to claim scum, I'd bet every penny I own he won't be lynched today. Why? Because wiggles has been posting clearly, coherently, and in a protown manner. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize wiggles is a bad lynch, we're in no danger of "losing him". You're attempting to policy lynch grush (for the record policy lynches are retarded), because he's bad, not because he's scummy. Nobody wants to policy lynch wiggles, thus comparing grush to someone like wiggles is like comparing apples to oranges. If you want to bring an actual case about why grush is scum then please do, until then both you and blazinghand can drop it. there MZ makes sinensis looking worse than he actually is... was... On May 28 2012 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Seriously bro, if you're not actually interested in scum hunting then you're not helping the town and would thus make a decent d1 lynch. Does MZ know he's not scum? Hang him because he doesnt hunt, not because he's scum hmmm I thoight this policylynching of bad players is so bad?! wasn't that the main point of the case against sinensis On May 28 2012 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: "And please read your own posts, you did compare grush to wiggles:" not really. He distinguished between the two of them. The one is a good and the other is a bad day1 lynch. On May 28 2012 17:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: hmmm. Personally if I was pardoner and I felt VERY strongly that the person who was getting lynched was town I would not hesitate to pardon them simply because I still trust my judgement enough to make that call. Similarly, I wouldn't have a problem if someone pardoned someone who I thought was town. That being said, it is just a lot simpler if the pardoner is never used in. Even if a townie dies, information will be gleaned from the flip and we won't waste a cycle debating the action of the pardoner. I agree with that. 100%. On May 29 2012 04:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Don't lynch toad today. There's no need to lynch him now. Tomorrow he'll either be confirmed, dead, or outed. Seeing as he "can't be roleblocked" he'll have no excuses. agree On May 30 2012 02:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: lol supersoft you're not ace, stop trying to be. What, you're getting nervous because i randomly picked you? btw. what do you think about zealos. You didn't mention him there: On May 30 2012 02:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:"Lynches I would be happy with: sinensis, and kita." | ||
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On May 30 2012 02:47 jaj22 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 30 2012 01:57 supersoft wrote: okay let's play a game: i give you a name and we both write down what we think about his posts and we'll trade it in like 20min (got to eat meanwhile): meapak_ziph Ok, I'll play. Slightly scummy stuff: - Not running for election despite relatively strong standing. - Possible buddying/overpraising of ET, Wiggles and Kita. - Dismisses Toad's case against ET without addressing the points. - Seems to be ok with policy-lynching Sinensis. - Story clearly pictures Kita as depressed town. Soft defence? - Switches Kita to a scum read without explanation. - Avoids giving read on SnB. Excuse that he hasn't read him. - No mention at all of Zealos. On the plus side he's been active and he's contributed on most of the major issues without looking hesitant or indecisive. The lack of reads on SnB and Zealos is by far the worst part. okay cool. I didn't read your post and I am glad we have almost the same/similar result. interesting. On May 30 2012 02:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Supersoft, are you scum, or are you just acting silly on purpose? + Show Spoiler + On May 30 2012 00:04 supersoft wrote: hey i really appreciate your effort, but why are you guys always trying so hard. Finding scum is a lot easier than you might think. Don't think around 3 corners. Try to catch the little things. Like that Zealos defends toad at a point when it was really useless to defend him. Neither was he in danger of getting lynched, nor is reducing the pressure that is currently put on a player helping the town. A reasonable explanation for his behaviour is that he's scum, he knows Toad is not. He wanted to get a little towncred. Or not even this, he just wanted to say something. Maybe Toad is even scum, too... See? There are plenty of reasonable explanations for his behaviour if he's scum and almost none if he's town. It's not a super strong case, but it is a case. Every other case so far except my toadcase (who is currently on ice until he's confirmed mason) was uncovered and not well thought out. Especially our lynch yesterday. That case was terrible. There was really nothing about it. I could write a lot about why this player was a bad lynch. From an overall gamepolicy point of view because we got no information - maybe some about wiggles - and an individual point of view, because he obviously was town. Here you say that the case was terrible and sinensis was obviously town. As well, you say that it was a bad lynch. However, when it was actually Day 1, you said no such things. It's only now, after sinensis has flipped that you're coming in here making posts about how he was very obviously town and that the lynch was terrible. The closest (and only!) post to that from before the flip is this: On May 29 2012 08:25 supersoft wrote: aww yeah i filtered this sinensis real quick. Completely useless fellow, hang him if you want. Reducing disturbing noise is better than nothing. I'd prefer reducing mafia kp, but you cannot have it all :-/ In which it is not a very good defense of a player who is "obviously" town. It's not going to do anything to change someone's mind. As well, this came after I said that if elected I would lynch sinensis, so there's no excuse like what you said in this post: + Show Spoiler + On May 29 2012 21:35 supersoft wrote: please dont protect wiggles. i'd rather vig him than protect him. he's been completely useless so far as toad pointed out correctly. you also should read my filter more often! all of you. dropped some truth already. + i want to apologize to wiggles first victim: i realized too late, that you were actually going to die. next time i'll yell much more at them. how retarded was that lynch... i think wiggles needs to die for not listening to the town at the end. i dont buy it that he wasnt around at deadline since he was the one who got elected. i think if zealos is scum, wiggles looks really bad and should die. i doubt that he'll be able to erase the doubts then. 70% chance he's scum if zealos is. Of not realizing I was actually going to kill him. I made that very clear in my post, where I stated, "If elected mayor, I'm planning on lynching Sinensis". I don't think it gets any clearer than that. So, you did nothing to try to convince anyone that sinensis was town, which wasn't obvious, considering I had the support of 11 people in lynching him, and you did nothing to convince me to change the lynch. However, after the lynch you're now up in arms about my lynch choice and how I've acted. So, you're either being silly, or you're trying to shovel suspicion on me because I mislynched and just became a lot easier of a target to do so on. Here's a question for you. If you believed so strongly in these things, why do you only mention them after the flip, and not before when it actually matters and can make a difference? I also disagree with what Toad said, but that comes down to what we thought about lynches, and who was a good lynch. Obviously, we disagreed. Okay I have to admit, I really didn't pay enough attention to the votes. I think I already wrote that down somewhere. Bad play. Really. But as far as i know, we discussed zealos as a lynchtarget while you were still around. You didn't react and killed sinesis instead. I dind't pay too much attention, because I thought we could swing something around in the last hour. Somehow i am used to that especially when there is one guy deciding who to lynch. In my eyes the common sense at the end of day1 was that zealos is the best lynch. However you refused to carry out that lynch, you failed and now we're here. Moreover I thought i don't need to defend sinsanis more than that, because we already had a better target. I mean I told you I think he's town. there is not much about it. When I thought about him later more deeply, and reread your cases, I saw that you had nothing real against him. Poor logic and nothing else. Obviously i speak that out. Now you can't turn that around and blame me for not coming forward with that earlier?! I somehow trusted the general consens and hadn't had time yesterday to go into detail. Now I see more clearly and not because sinsasis flipped. You guys were policy lynching him because he wanted to policylynch. That was really bad. Really. Don't argue about that. I am not stupid. On May 30 2012 03:05 strongandbig wrote: As long as we're talking about super soft, I still haven't heard any response other than "wrong" explaining how this plan is not super scummy. it's not "super scummy". You failed to explain what's so scummy about that. Your assumption that everyone votes anyone is just wrong. It won't happen. The votes will be on a few players, people can reasonable explain why they think that these particular players are town. Regarding the lanchtarget I favored a "democratic" system independant from the mayorelection. In my eyes that would have been the most reasonable thing. | ||
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On May 30 2012 03:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: please go read the thread and come back when you understand what's going on in the game ty in advance for your cooperation PFFFFFFFFFFFFFF i know exactly what you're doing. You're attacking my credibility because I pointed out your flaws. Thanks for claiming scum to me. | ||
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On May 30 2012 03:59 Toadesstern wrote: Neither do I want MZ vigged at all because I am not sure that guy has to be mafia. why not? | ||
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On May 30 2012 04:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: hey supersoft, do something useful and write an analysis on me and wiggles. what is this? "write an analysis" I already posted what I think about you an wiggles. Why don't you tell me what you think about wiggles? Do you think it's normal townbehaviour, to be elected to chose the lynch and not participate at the final discussion about it? And another question: Do you REALLY think I am scum?! Or do you even know I am not. | ||
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