EPTIt's very odd to claim VT, given that if mafia is shooting for blues, they know they don't need to shoot you. I can't imagine a town motivation for claiming VT for no reason like that.
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Blazinghand
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It's very odd to claim VT, given that if mafia is shooting for blues, they know they don't need to shoot you. I can't imagine a town motivation for claiming VT for no reason like that. | ||
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On May 27 2012 18:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: The Vice-leader CAN pardon the D1 lynch, so never mind. Here's my new platform: As Mayor, I will lynch Grush57 unless there is an unprecedented, marked improvement in his play. I will not lynch the vice-mayor. A vote for me is a vote to bury Grush57! This is a policy lynch. Furthermore, I typically have an aggressive playstyle that involves using my vote, and with 2 votes I will be twice as effective! <3 I'm still waiting for a response from SnB. Hyaach, someone will get made into mayor whether you vote or not so you should vote and try to get a townie into the spot. All you people who haven't made a single post make me very sad. Especially meeple. | ||
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On May 28 2012 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Honestly I skimmed it, god damnit. Okay I'll fully read it before I post anything else. TBH I just got done watching Capt. America in prep for going to see Avengers tonight and most of my opinion is from when I read the thread earlier today. I'm gonna go ahead and reread now before this blows out of proportion. If you just watched Capt. America you should check out my sweet blog on the topic: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=335758 | ||
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Blazinghand
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However, Grush, I fully anticipate a continued effort from you this game. Keep up the good work <3 ##vote: Mr. Wiggles Now Wiggle-dawg I've got a suggestion for your consideration, and that is that we lynch SnB. "but wait blazinghand is this about the retard thing?" That's a fair question, imaginery-question-asker. Let me break it down for you in flow-chart format. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qUJ1wl.png) You see, aside from specific responses to questions about his pardoner campaign, this represents the entirety of the SnB contribution to the town: On May 28 2012 09:07 strongandbig wrote: 2. Sinensis are you still running for mayor? Do you still want to policy lynch grush? I'm pretty sure BH still does but idk about you. 3. MrWiggles, you've said a lot about pardoner but this is an election for mayor. Also, how do we know if you're town? Obviously the "I'm town" paradigm posted by the subject of suspicion should always be treated with several grains of salt, but it can still be useful to townies making up their minds so I'd like it if you could post one. I think these are sort of low-risk low-reward questions. Sinensis never said anything to put doubt into SnB's mind about either of his questions, and honestly Wiggle-dawg's posting has been exemplary. A question like "how do we know if you're town" is utterly worthless. Like... there's nothing to be said about that except to look at actions and see if they jive. I'm not really sure what SnB thinks he's doing with these comments. And given that these are the only comments he makes following being pressured about his pardoner campaign (other than defending his pardoner campaign), coupled with the nature of his pardoner campaign itself, I think he is a lynch worth of your consideration today Wiggle-dawg. | ||
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On May 28 2012 12:47 Pandain wrote:  I will carry on in your stead, my brother. | ||
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I can't possibly imagine any town motivation for pushing Hyaach for mayor. RnGing a mayor candidate, or, as Kita seems to have done, voted Hyaach... to presure him? ;_; Also apparently Kita is down with being mayor but hasn't voted himself or presented a candidacy. Now, I've seen some weird, weird play out of Kita in my day. But this really takes the cake. He's mostly afraid of the lyncher, and quite notably NEVER mentions wiggles anywhere in his filter, except to answer a direct question, and once in passing about the Pardoner. Why doesn't he want to interact with one of the main mayoral candidates? Why, Kita? Help a brother out and explain. | ||
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On May 28 2012 14:32 Sinensis wrote: Just like last game, the only people sticking up for grush are other people. He just can't give it the time of day. The people who are after me, what are your agendas? VE I'm curious how many people would vote me right now if it were a regular day. Grush has been defending himself by making attempts to contribute to the thread. Take a look at his filter. However, I can empathize with Sinensis. I think anyone who played that game with Grush can. In a way, I feel like this excuses his actions. I still kinda want Grush dead tbh, even with all this. Sin needs to look past the Grush past and see the Grush present. If he can't, he's not contributing and should die. | ||
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On May 28 2012 16:25 kitaman27 wrote: lol Hyaach was mentioned in passing hours into the game. Is that really what you guys are going to jump on? :p He really does need to post though -_- "mentioned in passing"? you voted him >.> That's like saying that I met a girl when in fact we've been married for 5 years | ||
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On May 28 2012 16:35 kitaman27 wrote: Naw, I didn't actually vote for him. (Not that it matters). Pretty sure I've random voted in about 80% of my games and changed once there is content in the thread. Is this suddenly scummy? On May 28 2012 00:52 kitaman27 wrote: I think GreYMisT just wanted to brag about being a Grubby mod. CAUGHT YOU! I agree with Wiggle's statement about the pardoner. The only person who we should elect as a the runner-up should be a player who states in the thread that he is unwilling to use the role on anyone but himself. Blazing, you may not be a troll, but you spam like no other. 37 posts in the first few hours of the game? -_- Mayor and pardoner elections are less important without bodyguards. The focus today should be determining the mayor's day one lynch. I may dislike policy lynches, but grush has failed to address any concerns. With a lyncher possibly in play, its extremeley likely that he has decided to run for mayor. I suggest we elect someone who has not declared their candidacy yet. ##Vote Hyaach. You got this. ???? | ||
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Oh I didn't uh... ok so I didn't know there was one of those. Withdrawn. | ||
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I don't think lynching Kita or Sin would be the optimal play, but I understand why both of them are mentioned in your post. Since I agree with you on Kita and SnB I'll talk for a bit about Sin. I guess the big thing is that I empathize with the "let's lynch Grush" position. However, you make a good point that Sin is setting himself up to be unaccountable for his actions. It's become more clear that Grush is playing better than he has before, and if I was convinced, certainly Sin could be. I think that there's a definite scum motivation to do what he's done today. I also think that there's a possible explanation for his actions from a town perspective: he's understandably pissed about Grush's performance in the previous game, and is blinded to Grush's improvement this game by his anger. This contrasts with SnB's play, for which I cannot think of a town explanation. Sin could scum trying to secure an easy mislynch and abdicate responsibility, OR he could be an angry townie. SnB, though, I can't see a motivation for his play except that he's scum. For this reason, I consider SnB a superior lynch target. Whether you choose Sin or SnB you retain my vote. | ||
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On May 28 2012 18:34 Zealos wrote: BE - Leaning on town. His arguments earlier were annoying, but nothing that led me to think he's scum. 1) Why you claim VT 2) Who is BE | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:55 Forumite wrote: I don´t know if I like the sound of that. Given that only 23 of 30 players voted, we really need replacements and not modkills. 7 modkills has the potential of ruining the game, whether it's all town, lots of scum, or a mix, or blues/no blues / whatever-- this many people getting killed distorts things, so I hope they can find replacements ;_; | ||
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On May 29 2012 16:50 sToFu wrote: The reason I felt it suspicious was two-fold: first of all, it felt as if he were overreacting greatly to fairly minor accusations, something in my (outside) experience more often than not attributed to members of the mafia. I feel as if he jumped on SnB to prove a point - that he is capable of rooting out scum - but in the process became engrossed I don't know why everybody gets the order of events wrong but this isn't what happened: 1) I flipped out 2) I pushed SnB to "show that i'm town" after flipping out No, if you think this is what happened you weren't paying attention. This is what happened: 1) I pressured SnB, asking some fairly obvious questions 2) I flipped out 3) After I chillaxed, I continued with part 1 Also, if someone were calling you retarded and trolling, wouldn't you be mad? He didn't even call me scum-- he didn't pressure me at all. He wasn't even HELPING ANYONE, he was just calling me a retard. This wasn't a reaction to pressure, this was a reaction to a guy being an ass. | ||
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On May 29 2012 20:05 Zealos wrote: I explained that I didn't have the time to post yesterday, so vigging me will be killing a townie. Any reason you're so keen to do that? Good point! It's actually literally impossible for a mafia player to do that, and by saying "I was busy for 48 hours" you're doing something that only a town player could do! That really DOES excuse your D1 play :D Furthermore, your VT claim TOTALLY makes sense, was 100% useful to town, and definitely won't help scum target the blues.  As a final note, when people make weird claims like that, post nothing for 48 hours, then make non-reasons to defend themselves not posting any reads or pressure D1, that's unbelievably helpful, and really is how all TL townies should play. You are not suspicious at all.  | ||
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On May 29 2012 20:14 Forumite wrote: Toades, I´m not sure if this is a dumb post or a very, very smart one. Medics, protect Wiggles if you feel like it. I don´t really blame Wiggles for lynching sinensis, Kita would have been a good candidate, but otherwise there wasn´t much alternative. A Zealos lynch might have been better but it never got much support, I guess it was too late in the day. There was very little discussion about other lynches, most people seemed fine with sinensis. Well, it's only smart if we all act like it's dumb but we don't know it's dumb. | ||
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