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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
I don't even know why the hell I'm defending SnB this much; then again, I don't know why you are so touchy about this. You have to remember that that modkill happened very recently, so it is fresher in people's mind, especially a newbie. If you're town, you're going to be a strong asset, so I'm merely trying to diffuse a situation where it looks like you're getting worked up like shit. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:11 Sinensis wrote: So calling BH a retard is fine and if he's offended, he deserves to be, because he's retarded... right? Or are you just randomly defending some guy's OMGUS because it's against someone who is also running for mayor? What exactly are you trying to say in this post? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:11 EchelonTee wrote: No BH, I have respect for your play. I thought I made that clear in SoaF when I thought you were a longtime Vet, even though you haven't been playing for that long. I don't even know why the hell I'm defending SnB this much; then again, I don't know why you are so touchy about this. You have to remember that that modkill happened very recently, so it is fresher in people's mind, especially a newbie. If you're town, you're going to be a strong asset, so I'm merely trying to diffuse a situation where it looks like you're getting worked up like shit. What, by saying the guy is right to call me retarded/trolling? I've presented evidence that I am indeed not a retarded/trolling player. Whether or not SnB thinks I'm retarded/trolling is completely irrelevant. I just get annoyed by people saying it to my face. What's relevant is this, and the fact that you don't find it relevant is weird: On May 27 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote: So your initial reasoning for why you wanted the role, as you wrote it, was: But now it's Were you lying then or are you lying now? SnB won't dodge my question by calling me retarded. I await his answer. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:09 Blazinghand wrote: I'm not here to lynch SnB. I'm here to lynch Grush because he's worthless. Am I not allowed to put some pressure on SnB? Don't you find his reasoning for his choice to run for a power that's only useful to scum kinda weird? If you think me triple posting is unusual clearly you're so unfamiliar with my meta that you should just stop talking. 1. Yes. 3. This is what I'm talking about excessive negativity. You say "you don't know wtf you're talking about, so stfu". I am not a bad player. You know this. So don't tell me to stop talking, it's completely unnecessary. If you say this to someone with a weaker backbone, they will just end up resenting you. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:16 EchelonTee wrote: 1. Yes. 3. This is what I'm talking about excessive negativity. You say "you don't know wtf you're talking about, so stfu". I am not a bad player. You know this. So don't tell me to stop talking, it's completely unnecessary. If you say this to someone with a weaker backbone, they will just end up resenting you. I don't care whether or not you resent me. I presented a list of filters of every game in which I have played on TL Mafia. These filters show a number of things including that A) I am not a trolling/retarded player and B) I post a lot and have been known to triple and quadruple post a great deal. I find the fact that you find my triple posting odd to be odd. I don't think you're scum, I think for whatever reason you're just trying to pick a fight. I can't really imagine why but there you have it. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:13 EchelonTee wrote: What exactly are you trying to say in this post? I'm trying to say your post and your reasons suck, BlazingHand's questions for SnB are legitimate, and the only reason I can imagine you having a problem is because BlazingHand is running against you. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
I´ll most likely vote for S&B. I was masoned with him half the game in Holy Roman, he´s a good player and I think I can read him fairly well. I can accept voting in ET too. I´m not sure about VE yet, but there´s a day and a half for him to campaign yet. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 27 2012 16:51 EchelonTee wrote: 1. If you're offended, you deserve to be, I agree On May 27 2012 16:36 EchelonTee wrote: Come on BH, he's a newbie. You're acting like a TLMafia brat, threatening to call in the host, which is also unproductive to the discussion. You post gifs and pix of you eating hats all the time, so his reference to your trolling isn't wholly inaccurate lol. Oh do I deserve to be offended or am I in fact a brat? please clear this up for me? Also I got a question, is you calling me a brat in fact in line with On May 27 2012 17:16 EchelonTee wrote: 3. This is what I'm talking about excessive negativity. ??? | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
Dude, you're the one getting all worked up and mad at me LOL! Me try to pick a fight? Seriously? I am going to fully, fully enumerate my logic and reasoning for shit right here. After this, I am completely dropping this topic because it is useless to talk about. 1. SnB says you post like a retard. 2. You get offended and post questioning on him in reference to earlier stuff. 3. I agree with your questioning on him, but I don't like how you wanted to call in the host for a retard comment. 4. You ignore what I said about the host thing, and instead focus on the retard part. You falsely think that I consider you to be a retard. 5. I say you are getting worked up, because you focus on the part of my post that you want to focus on. You then post a list of your games to prove that you are not a retard, when I already know you are not a retard. 6. I said that you deserve to be offended by being called a retard. You don't understand my posts, or maybe I was unclear, but you seem to think that I think you're bad. 7. You should care whether or not I, and other players resent you, because the excessive negativity is a reason for TL towns losing lately. I made a post about it on the other page. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
9. This could be construed as a negative insult towards you, but my point in that entire post was to say "make your case built on regular shit, not you being offended+a host insult". I still don't get how you got so swiftly mad at me. Playing scum is so much easier  | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:24 EchelonTee wrote: 1. SnB says you post like a retard. 2. You get offended and post questioning on him in reference to earlier stuff. This is false. You're either wrong or lying. Check these timestamps: + Show Spoiler + On May 27 2012 14:55 Blazinghand wrote: Ok, so obviously, now, S&B, you're not running for vice mayor, since it's clear there's no way to run for that position. However, every one of my questions about your initial post still applies. At the time that you wrote it, your campaign for vice-mayor was based on a thought that there WAS a vice-mayoral election. So, at the time that you wrote it... why on earth were you campaigning to be vice-mayor? These questions still need to be addressed. What's your deal, S&B? Why did you take those actions? On May 27 2012 15:32 strongandbig wrote: I just said dood. I want to do something interesting and different but I'm not confident enough in my day 1 reads in general to lynch someone. herp derp -> vice leader. And the question "why are you trying to get a power that's almost useless for town but super useful for scum" has a retardedly obvious answer, doesn't it? So scum can't have that power? Finally, it's not that I don't know why I like ET more than the other three of you. It's that I didn't want to come right out and say "half of everything bh or ve post is retarded or trolling" because you're both pretty good players and have a lot more experience than me; but I honestly think it's better to have a mayor who takes all their posts seriously so we can analyze them, rather than someone who posts like a retard or trolls half the time. It's glaringly obvious that I did not react to SnB's retardation accusation with pressure, but rather, I BEGAN by pressuring him, THEN he made the retard comment, THEN I continued pressuring him. Did you read the posts or are you just fishing for reasons to attack me? On May 27 2012 17:24 EchelonTee wrote: 3. I agree with your questioning on him, but I don't like how you wanted to call in the host for a retard comment. 4. You ignore what I said about the host thing, and instead focus on the retard part. You falsely think that I consider you to be a retard. 5. I say you are getting worked up, because you focus on the part of my post that you want to focus on. You then post a list of your games to prove that you are not a retard, when I already know you are not a retard. 6. I said that you deserve to be offended by being called a retard. You don't understand my posts, or maybe I was unclear, but you seem to think that I think you're bad. 7. You should care whether or not I, and other players resent you, because the excessive negativity is a reason for TL towns losing lately. I made a post about it on the other page. See what I don't get here is how you think I'm causing people to resent me while you're calling me a "brat" | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:25 Blazinghand wrote: BTW, I'd like to propose a sweet plan: We elect me mayor, and elect Grush57 vice-mayor, and I immediately lynch him. I don't like the Pardoner mechanic and I think this is the easiest way to get rid of the Pardoner and Grush57, both of which are threats to town, neatly in one day. Thoughts? Grush57 pardons himself, hilarity ensues. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:19 Sinensis wrote: I'm trying to say your post and your reasons suck, BlazingHand's questions for SnB are legitimate, and the only reason I can imagine you having a problem is because BlazingHand is running against you. I'm going to make this clear, because hinting doesn't seem to be enough in this case. I AGREE THAT SNB RUNNING FOR ONLY PARDONER IS WEIRD AND IT'S COOL THAT BH WANTED TO ACCUSE HIM. I didn't want to make it so obvious because being subtle is important, believe it or not. I also said in that post that "HE DESERVES TO BE OFFENDED FOR BEING CALLED A RETARD", because BH IS NOT A RETARD AND I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT THIS. Clear enough? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
This is a good point. Can the Vice Mayor Pardon himself from the D1 lynch? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:28 EchelonTee wrote: 8. The "brat" thing specifically refers for the tendency for players to say things like "if you keep on doing X, I'm calling the host", or "you are playing against wincon, I'm telling the host". 9. This could be construed as a negative insult towards you, but my point in that entire post was to say "make your case built on regular shit, not you being offended+a host insult". I still don't get how you got so swiftly mad at me. Playing scum is so much easier I'm not complaining to the host. I'm just saying, if he continues to insinuate that I am retarded, I will do so. If you disagree with my position, that is completely fine. If you call me a brat and also think that my language is demeaning and I'm the one causing resentment then I disagree in the strongest possible terms. The rules on the OP clearly state that I am allowed to contact the host: If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally. However, I'd much prefer if SnB just stopped without me doing this, so I asked him to do so and notified him that I will gladly contact a host if he does not. I am done speaking with you on this issue. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:31 EchelonTee wrote: I'm going to make this clear, because hinting doesn't seem to be enough in this case. I AGREE THAT SNB RUNNING FOR ONLY PARDONER IS WEIRD AND IT'S COOL THAT BH WANTED TO ACCUSE HIM. I didn't want to make it so obvious because being subtle is important, believe it or not. I also said in that post that "HE DESERVES TO BE OFFENDED FOR BEING CALLED A RETARD", because BH IS NOT A RETARD AND I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT THIS. Clear enough? Well it sounds like you're getting emotional so I don't know if I can trust anything you've said. You'll probably be okay with this because it's how you're playing. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:33 Sinensis wrote: Well it sounds like you're getting emotional so I don't know if I can trust anything you've said. You'll probably be okay with this because it's how you're playing. Honestly it's probably better just to ignore ET on this issue. I don't think communicating with him about it will lead to anything and it will likely just clog up the thread, which isn't good for town. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
Using the lynch on grush at this point is actually not as bad of an idea as I first thought. D1 lynches are hard as fck, and taking out someone bad isn't a bad plan. However, I can't agree with it for two reasons: 1. grush hasn't proven to be completely anti-town thus far, and 2. in a 30 man game, I think a D1 lynch intended to shoot at scum is possible. I would rather go for a case that can produce more discussion/controversy (controversial lynches work better towards determining alignment), and a lynch centered around grush would merely be a conversation of "well, is he bad, or BAD?". Going to play Dota 2. Nighty night. | ||
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