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On June 01 2012 09:38 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 09:24 Mattchew wrote:
SnB, Gambit, kita, papa should all be killed immediately
I'd FOS wiggles, manason, ange hyaach I think Ange and hyaach are fine. I'm looking at: Kill: G32 - ninja vote, derp posting papa - that weird vote on VE kita - dgafs about game, lol's at VE dying??? Maju - wishy washy posts, bashes Sinensis at one point, extremely low content to post ratio FoS: jaj22, Wiggles, Manason, Kenpachi There are some outliers but those are my focus atm.
ET, you can do better. What is your opinion of Kita and on supersoft, Meapak as well. Be clear and thorough. "Lol's at VE dying" is not enough.
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On June 01 2012 09:38 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 09:24 Mattchew wrote:
SnB, Gambit, kita, papa should all be killed immediately
I'd FOS wiggles, manason, ange hyaach I think Ange and hyaach are fine. I'm looking at: Kill: G32 - ninja vote, derp posting papa - that weird vote on VE kita - dgafs about game, lol's at VE dying??? Maju - wishy washy posts, bashes Sinensis at one point, extremely low content to post ratio FoS: jaj22, Wiggles, Manason, Kenpachi There are some outliers but those are my focus atm.
if ihad a gun, id shoot papapanda. i know hes mafia. i just know it
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On June 01 2012 10:23 Probulous wrote:
Again, no explanation, no case. Nothing. This is undermining 101. When I push him about it
You're a joke.
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On June 01 2012 10:33 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 10:23 Probulous wrote:
Again, no explanation, no case. Nothing. This is undermining 101. When I push him about it
You're a joke.
That is not very nice. Can you please explain why you disappeared from the thread for 14 minutes in which time VE was misslynched and then miraculously appeared 3 minutes too late?
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Herpa derpa herpaaaa derpa herpa ferpa shmerpa
Gambit is like 95% scum.
Kita probable scum.
jaj possibly scum.
Papa maju possible scum.
Everyone else is either town or worthless, tending more toward the worthless side.
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I wouldnt mind people shooting gambit tonight. It makes sense that his not coming back to post about the mason rrlated issue and his scummy as hell. Newbie scum play scared into hiding.
Hell even wiggles would be a good shot. I find it funny that mz and toad are mason and yet mz pushed Ve's case and left toad to interact with Ve but generally shooting down any defense from VE without any soild claim. Just the normal seems like the general town consenus. It actually leads lazy towns to bandwagon.
I want toad to mason someone else tonight. Not mz not kita not wiggles
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On June 01 2012 10:23 Probulous wrote:Mattchew is not scum, I just don't see it, so leave him alone. Tonight we focus on Kita and supersoft. Gambit will die. Either tonight (by vig) or tomorrow at the lynch, we can't forgive two ninja votes. WBG and BH are right in that regard. I want Wiggles in here because, damn he popped in to place two votes on VE with a shit reason and then vanished. He promised to be a decent mayor and has failed. Kenpachi, where have you been? You've made more posts after the lynch than before it and you pick Mattchew as scum? How about looking at those pushing this massive misslynch wagon? You can play when you want to, I've seen it. Shape up. @ET, jaj had the decency to actually try and explain why VE was "scum". Unlike the rest of the voters he tried to show VE's motivation. He won't be getting my vote tomorrow. We know that scum pushed this wagon. There was enough resistance that any sane townie would doubt themselves. MZ had tunnel fever but he has posted some pretty townie things, plus he claimed a shot. I more worried about Kita who started this and then kept his distance. Supersoft who seems to enjoy posting snide remarks and not responding to posts. He also disappeared for 14 minutes before the lynch and then reappeared too late. He hasn't explained this. + Show Spoiler [RE:Supersoft. It's big so spoiler] +This is the only interaction he has with me On May 31 2012 09:19 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 09:12 Probulous wrote:On May 31 2012 09:06 Toadesstern wrote:On May 31 2012 09:03 Probulous wrote:On May 31 2012 08:55 supersoft wrote:On May 31 2012 08:50 Probulous wrote:On May 31 2012 08:45 supersoft wrote:
solve of the mysterious riddle you struggle with: I thought your mason PM would be the first PM that goes out because everyone waited for that in the thread and Greymist obviously should have noticed that.
Don't hype that shit. Thanks, that is all I wanted. Like I said it was bugging me that is all. i have a different explanation. You were blue fishing weren't you? Docs and Jailers should get a PM if the save something, too right? Face meet palm  How exactly is asking how you "knew" that hit PMs were late when you weren't hit, role fishing? What he said: You asked him about this to find out wether or not he is one of the medics / jailers who protected someone ELSE. They get a pm as well. So by asking super how he "knew", I was checking whether he is Jailer or Doc and got a late PM? Ok I see that. That was not the reason for asking but I can see his point. of course not. Suddenly this pops up? On May 31 2012 17:39 supersoft wrote:
22. Mr. Wiggles
4. Zealos
28. VisceraEyes
13. Probulous
scumteam! I really don't care which one of them we lynch today. I prefer Zealos and give VE a chance to shoot Wiggles tonight. Watchers obviously on VE. We don't want the "roleblocker" to deny the party.
I am apparently just as scummy as VE and Zealos? No reason, no attempt to explain himself. No attempt to drive a case or anything, just oh yeah he is scum. Then he writes this On June 01 2012 07:46 supersoft wrote:
"Supersoft, what is deal? You hardly post anything and then when you do it is a stupid plan that is bound to fail. Wiggles, get your fat ass in here because as mayor you should have a spine. MZ, get your head out of your ass and think for a second about what VE would do if he was town. "
ah shut up scum! really. Again, no explanation, no case. Nothing. This is undermining 101. When I push him about it On June 01 2012 07:48 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 07:46 supersoft wrote:
"Supersoft, what is deal? You hardly post anything and then when you do it is a stupid plan that is bound to fail. Wiggles, get your fat ass in here because as mayor you should have a spine. MZ, get your head out of your ass and think for a second about what VE would do if he was town. "
ah shut up scum! really. That is not a response. I am not scum, so your scumlist has at least one thing wrong. Do you not agree that your plan is bound to fail? I mean it cannot work unless VE shoots, that watcher sees him and outs himself. That presumes two blues. If we he gets roleblocked we might get a red for it. It's a dumb plan and you know it. I get no response and he completely ignores me. He didn't even try to explain why his plan would work. Why? because it could never work and he knows it. He just wants to hedge. If VE dies, great for scum. If he lives, well hopefully they can out the watcher and get VE lynched the next day. People need to focus, chasing tails is not going to get us anywhere. I want thoughts on the main people pushing the VE wagon. Take a look at that voting list and give me something.
I just remembered that supersoft along with Forumite were the first to push Zealos so unless that was an incredibly early bus, he is probably town.
So I guess that leaves Kita.
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ET: You missed the bits where I called for a vig shot on Zealos N1 and then spent the middle of day 2 trying to persuade Probulous that Zealos was the best lynch.
On day 1, I backed off Sinensis when you reminded me of one of his other games and went looking for better lynches. I decided on Zealos after a re-read of his MTG filter. That was before Wiggles picked his lynch.
VE was a tough one for me because parts of his filter gave me a gut town read but there were so many scummy aspects of his play. I tried too hard to rationalise that, thinking that all the veterans on VE collectively knew better than me. If I had self-confidence I'd play this game more rather than watching it.
I made the post asking people to move non-VE votes to Zealos because that's what I wanted. I was seriously tempted to push for a vote switch to Zealos at points near the end, but with the votes spread as they were it would have just led to a no-lynch. Even with my late doubts, I never felt that a no-lynch was preferable to a VE lynch.
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No one had confidence in a VE lynch except MZ and kita, from what I can recall.
MZ because he was the originator of the case and kita cause he's scum.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
You guys can't agree with the case against VE and then call me scum when he flips town. If prior to VE's flip, you all agree that his case against me is awful, then that doesn't make the case suddenly valid after the flip. It was an unfortunate case of town vs town. I'll reread and give my thoughts tomorrow afternoon.
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On May 31 2012 15:43 Manason wrote:
Sorry VE, but theres a lot of evidence making you look bad.
##Unvote: Kitaman
##Vote: VisceraEyes
However I still do look forward to what you have on Kita, If it's good enough you might have a chance to not get lynched.
Where you at son?
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On June 01 2012 11:07 kitaman27 wrote:
You guys can't agree with the case against VE and then call me scum when he flips town. If prior to VE's flip, you all agree that his case against me is awful, then that doesn't make the case suddenly valid after the flip. It was an unfortunate case of town vs town. I'll reread and give my thoughts tomorrow afternoon.
"guys, you can't think im scum cause a confirmed townie called me scum" - Kitaman27
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 01 2012 11:12 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 11:07 kitaman27 wrote:
You guys can't agree with the case against VE and then call me scum when he flips town. If prior to VE's flip, you all agree that his case against me is awful, then that doesn't make the case suddenly valid after the flip. It was an unfortunate case of town vs town. I'll reread and give my thoughts tomorrow afternoon. "guys, you can't think im scum cause a confirmed townie called me scum" - Kitaman27
Correct.
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On June 01 2012 10:41 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 10:33 supersoft wrote:On June 01 2012 10:23 Probulous wrote:
Again, no explanation, no case. Nothing. This is undermining 101. When I push him about it
You're a joke. That is not very nice. Can you please explain why you disappeared from the thread for 14 minutes in which time VE was misslynched and then miraculously appeared 3 minutes too late?
You ask the wrong questions.
Better ask yourself why I found scum and you didn't.
On June 01 2012 10:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
Herpa derpa herpaaaa derpa herpa ferpa shmerpa
Gambit is like 95% scum.
Kita probable scum.
jaj possibly scum.
Papa maju possible scum.
Everyone else is either town or worthless, tending more toward the worthless side.
We need to talk more. Not now. Too late for me.
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On June 01 2012 11:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
No one had confidence in a VE lynch except MZ and kita, from what I can recall.
MZ because he was the originator of the case and kita cause he's scum.
Yeah, reading back I didn't even sheep correctly. I counted Supersoft and Toad, but Supersoft was an error as he wanted to let VE live despite marking him in red. I probably shouldn't have counted Toad due to the Toad/VE antipathy and the masoning with MZ, but he sounded pretty sure about the meta thing. I had you marked in my head as the lone dissenting veteran.
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I think I made it pretty clear. I still think that MZs case brought up some valid points. However the plan to lynch VE first was suboptimal. Luckily Zealos got modkilled and we still have the possibility to reduce scumKP tomorrow.
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It's not too early of a bus if it was clear that zealos wasn't really going to play the game anyway. (hint: he just got modkilled for not voting. Bet you a dollar he was posting in their QT just as little as he's been posting in this thread.)
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On June 01 2012 11:32 strongandbig wrote:
It's not too early of a bus if it was clear that zealos wasn't really going to play the game anyway. (hint: he just got modkilled for not voting. Bet you a dollar he was posting in their QT just as little as he's been posting in this thread.)
I bet a dollar, that I won't get lynched this game.
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On June 01 2012 11:21 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 10:41 Probulous wrote:On June 01 2012 10:33 supersoft wrote:On June 01 2012 10:23 Probulous wrote:
Again, no explanation, no case. Nothing. This is undermining 101. When I push him about it
You're a joke. That is not very nice. Can you please explain why you disappeared from the thread for 14 minutes in which time VE was misslynched and then miraculously appeared 3 minutes too late? You ask the wrong questions. Better ask yourself why I found scum and you didn't. Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 10:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
Herpa derpa herpaaaa derpa herpa ferpa shmerpa
Gambit is like 95% scum.
Kita probable scum.
jaj possibly scum.
Papa maju possible scum.
Everyone else is either town or worthless, tending more toward the worthless side. We need to talk more. Not now. Too late for me.
What scum did you personally find? Everyone suspected Zealos.
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To ET,
You say my content to post ratio is low, I think this stems from a large part of my posting being questioning on questionable logic that I have noticed. Though it perhaps doesn't look like much as not many of the posts are that long, I feel it still helps discern valuable information to be used when voting for lynches. I don't think I have been all that wishy washy. I have taken a stand and voted accordingly both nights.
If you or WBG have any questions I would be glad to answer them.
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