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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On June 01 2012 09:16 marvellosity wrote: EBWOP: in other words, the reason that NO SCUM WOULD EVER DO THIS can actually be a reason for scum to do this. ._. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
Now tell me what you think of Jaj22. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 01 2012 09:17 EchelonTee wrote: It's not unprecendented I admit, but why would he vote switch away from a vig? A vig who happens to be VE? It ties up a RB slot for the scum team, and despite all the flack we give him, it's still VE. He's gone through a rough spot lately, but I've still seen games where he wrecks scum. A scum team wants VE dead, whether through mislynch or night shot. Yes, you're probably right. It just smells to me. And BH is right after all, Gambit looks absolutely atrocious at the moment. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
Do you want vigs to shoot BH and myself because of the late switch? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 01 2012 09:18 EchelonTee wrote: I'm not calling BH confirmed town; I'm saying that this unvote shenanigans isn't a scumtell. Now tell me what you think of Jaj22. I don't think I'm quite seeing in that post whatever you're seeing. jaj has basically been a soft town-read for me all game. We've obsQTed quite a few games together and he basically 'plays' similarly to those. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
I'd FOS wiggles, manason, ange hyaach | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 01 2012 09:22 Hassybaby wrote: While we're here, a bit of clarity please Toad Do you want vigs to shoot BH and myself because of the late switch? I'd rather have vigs shoot kita and supersoft but yeah. It was 3 minutes until deadline and we would have needed EVERYONE from VE to switch to gambit to make that happen. That was just a no-lynch with a cheap excuse. If you had said "sry I think VE is town and I'd rather take the NL than lynching into VE" or anyone else would have said that I would have disagreed with that but I wouldn't call you mafia for that. That late switch was just terribad. Anyways I'm going to bed now... | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On May 29 2012 02:56 jaj22 wrote: Thoughts on the night's cases: Sinensis: So he's sticking with a totally irrational and anti-town position and ignoring everything that's actually happening in the game? Because he wants to lose two games in a row? If he's scum he was daft not to change tactics once Grush started posting better (like BH did). If he's town, it's now insultingly bad play, which makes his complaint about Grush utterly hypocritical. Scum read, because the alternative is uglier. one of the early proponents of the mislynch; note how his reasoning is "Sinensis is playing bad", not "playing scum". Calling his play both daft as scum, and insultingly bad as town. Where is the scum? On May 29 2012 04:58 jaj22 wrote: ET: Zealos looks less scummy to me than usual. His scum play in MTG and that newbie game was screamingly obvious. He goes into the general category of players with a handful of uncontroversial posts. I'd be surprised if there weren't scum in there. Soft defend of Zealos, tries to misdirect. On May 29 2012 08:37 jaj22 wrote: Hmm. I thought Zealos's play was significantly different from his scum play, but his early MTG filter is quite similar. He even does that little coaching thing where he tells the guy to post more. Might not be a bad lynch. When sentiment turns, he turns too. On May 30 2012 10:07 jaj22 wrote: I called out GambitX32 for only having one post during day 1. He proceeded to produce... one more post. ##vote GambitX32 Either that or Zealos, but he's got some activity excuse until the second half of day 2 so there's not much point in prodding him. I'd love to find active scum but I'm not even convinced that there are any. Still soft defending Zealos. He switches to him later, but remember there is already massive consensus that he is scum. On June 01 2012 06:39 jaj22 wrote: Tactically speaking, people who don't want to lynch VE should be putting their votes on Zealos unless they'd rather have a no-lynch. The case against Kitaman is weak and he's another veteran-lynch: People are likely to think in terms of the best veteran-lynch vs the best lurker-lynch. And yeah, I'm having doubts myself about VE. A lot of his filter looks quite town, even if it's spammy unfocused town. And we'll have to start killing lurkers sometime. If we can't confirm VE one way or another on day 3 it's going to be horrible though. Posturing for the VE flip. Note that his vote is still on VE despite starting to think he is town. And he has the nerve to say Mattchew is looking bad for not putting his vote on someone he thinks is town? Essentially we should be focusing on people who 1. Were down with Sinensis lynch with poor reasoning 2. Were down with VE lynch with poor reasoning 3. Had a disconnect with VE (I think he's town but... let's kill him!) | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On June 01 2012 09:24 Mattchew wrote: SnB, Gambit, kita, papa should all be killed immediately I'd FOS wiggles, manason, ange hyaach I think Ange and hyaach are fine. I'm looking at: Kill: G32 - ninja vote, derp posting papa - that weird vote on VE kita - dgafs about game, lol's at VE dying??? Maju - wishy washy posts, bashes Sinensis at one point, extremely low content to post ratio FoS: jaj22, Wiggles, Manason, Kenpachi There are some outliers but those are my focus atm. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
My sincere apologies to the town and VE. I will be redoing my reads tonight, I'll post them whenever I finish them. | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
On June 01 2012 09:24 Mattchew wrote: SnB, Gambit, kita, papa should all be killed immediately I'd FOS wiggles, manason, ange hyaach I would love to see your case on me Mattchew. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
- G32 - duh - Mattchew - tried lurking, got called out on it by me and others, started lying to town and then his retarded "trap" lol. - supersoft - maybe kita? - gotta look again at VE's case | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
He then proceeded to post fuck all during D2. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
I think you guys are 2 townies mudflinging, tbh. Supersoft maybe, unsure atm. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Honestly, he could be town, but if he is he's not trying at all to establish that or to help the team at all. He played an extremely active scum game in HR mafia, so it makes sense to me that he would play a lurkier scum this time around. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
just meant im watching you closely. I have no case its just a feel. I wouldn't suggest killing you before anyone I named | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On June 01 2012 10:02 strongandbig wrote: When he fakeclaimed taking a shot. Honestly, he could be town, but if he is he's not trying at all to establish that or to help the team at all. He played an extremely active scum game in HR mafia, so it makes sense to me that he would play a lurkier scum this time around. How is pushing my reads, and pushing people away from my townreads not helping the team. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
Gambit will die. Either tonight (by vig) or tomorrow at the lynch, we can't forgive two ninja votes. WBG and BH are right in that regard. I want Wiggles in here because, damn he popped in to place two votes on VE with a shit reason and then vanished. He promised to be a decent mayor and has failed. Kenpachi, where have you been? You've made more posts after the lynch than before it and you pick Mattchew as scum? How about looking at those pushing this massive misslynch wagon? You can play when you want to, I've seen it. Shape up. @ET, jaj had the decency to actually try and explain why VE was "scum". Unlike the rest of the voters he tried to show VE's motivation. He won't be getting my vote tomorrow. We know that scum pushed this wagon. There was enough resistance that any sane townie would doubt themselves. MZ had tunnel fever but he has posted some pretty townie things, plus he claimed a shot. I more worried about Kita who started this and then kept his distance. Supersoft who seems to enjoy posting snide remarks and not responding to posts. He also disappeared for 14 minutes before the lynch and then reappeared too late. He hasn't explained this. This is the only interaction he has with me Suddenly this pops up? On May 31 2012 17:39 supersoft wrote: I am apparently just as scummy as VE and Zealos? No reason, no attempt to explain himself. No attempt to drive a case or anything, just oh yeah he is scum. Then he writes this22. Mr. Wiggles 4. Zealos 28. VisceraEyes 13. Probulous scumteam! I really don't care which one of them we lynch today. I prefer Zealos and give VE a chance to shoot Wiggles tonight. Watchers obviously on VE. We don't want the "roleblocker" to deny the party. On June 01 2012 07:46 supersoft wrote: "Supersoft, what is deal? You hardly post anything and then when you do it is a stupid plan that is bound to fail. Wiggles, get your fat ass in here because as mayor you should have a spine. MZ, get your head out of your ass and think for a second about what VE would do if he was town. " ah shut up scum! really. Again, no explanation, no case. Nothing. This is undermining 101. When I push him about it On June 01 2012 07:48 Probulous wrote: I get no response and he completely ignores me. He didn't even try to explain why his plan would work. Why? because it could never work and he knows it. He just wants to hedge. If VE dies, great for scum. If he lives, well hopefully they can out the watcher and get VE lynched the next day. That is not a response. I am not scum, so your scumlist has at least one thing wrong. Do you not agree that your plan is bound to fail? I mean it cannot work unless VE shoots, that watcher sees him and outs himself. That presumes two blues. If we he gets roleblocked we might get a red for it. It's a dumb plan and you know it. People need to focus, chasing tails is not going to get us anywhere. I want thoughts on the main people pushing the VE wagon. Take a look at that voting list and give me something. | ||
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