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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 29 2012 17:25 GMT
#1521
ebwop I don't know why I automaticly wrote obs-qt when I ment qt.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 30 2012 00:12 GMT
#1522
On May 30 2012 02:24 risk.nuke wrote:
Are they allowed to post their obs-qt link/pm's or do they need to post the conversation manually
x said: stuff
y said: stuff

No posting qt links under pain of death.
Moderator
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 00:13 GMT
#1523
Gm <3

How long till deadline
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 00:46 GMT
#1524
gg I guess. I'm going to sleep and if Sandro flips mafia I'll be really mad at the people who lynched me for voting a mafia d1 instead of voting a 1/3 chance of hitting mafia that ended up hitting mafia.
So I guess I hope Sandroba flips town and it's Zel who flips mafia lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 30 2012 00:48 GMT
#1525
No Toad, if we lynch sandro next and he's mafia then you'll be happy because town won.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 03:17:17
May 30 2012 03:13 GMT
#1526
Day 5

[image loading]


The game was winding down and sadly, Toad was not cool enough to survive =[

Toadesstern the Vanilla Townie has been lynched

Night has begun, be sure to get in your actions to me! Ends tomorrow at 11 PM EST!
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
May 30 2012 03:52 GMT
#1527
I told marv he can post them, but I don't think he's scum. It was all PMs and they take up more than a page and a half of my inbox so that's why he can do it rather than me .

I've asked him to redact anything that wouldn't follow GM's rules in regards to flaming people so hopefully he does that.

I guess I die tonight and I don't really have much to add now.

Palmar should probably be modkilled which gives you one more mislynch before mylo. Obviously don't lynch on mylo if you feel you can still get information from anyone in this game.

Lynch sandroba tomorrow for not caring enough. Especially consider the fact that he proposed no lynching on day 1 rather than lynching into the triad, but he completely ignored Qatol's case on PaqMan. If he's town, really read over the thread again before jumping on zelblade as I think he had a decent point about zelblade claiming that there was something fishy going on in the top 3 well before the information came out.

Sentinel's reaction to my pressure made it seem like there was no intention of busing in the top 3, at least to begin with, so keep that in mind when reassessing the situation.

I don't want to start throwing a bunch of blame around people as that would give mafia good ways to manipulate you.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 30 2012 12:03 GMT
#1528
On May 30 2012 09:12 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 02:24 risk.nuke wrote:
Are they allowed to post their obs-qt link/pm's or do they need to post the conversation manually
x said: stuff
y said: stuff

No posting qt links under pain of death.


This didn't quite answer the question. Can I post my PMs with my masonee?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 30 2012 13:36 GMT
#1529
On May 30 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 09:12 GMarshal wrote:
On May 30 2012 02:24 risk.nuke wrote:
Are they allowed to post their obs-qt link/pm's or do they need to post the conversation manually
x said: stuff
y said: stuff

No posting qt links under pain of death.


This didn't quite answer the question. Can I post my PMs with my masonee?


You can transcribe the PMs but you can't post links is my current read of how masons work
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 15:16 GMT
#1530
I would like to hear some arguments as to why misder and marv are townies. And why sandroba and zelblade should be our next 2 lynches
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 30 2012 15:20 GMT
#1531
On May 30 2012 01:11 marvellosity wrote:

Yes, that's fair enough. It'd be a fucking boss scum play. But you'd have to presume

1) I wouldn't take a strong mafia role at #3
2) I hammer voted Sentinel despite being on the fence and actually attacking risk more during the day

With any luck Snarfs thinks I'm town anyway.

More likely than me taking mason and hammer voting scum is that you shot scum day 1 for credit as scum. Just sayin' like.


On May 30 2012 12:52 Snarfs wrote:
I told marv he can post them, but I don't think he's scum.


So why is Matt townie??

I think sandroba is the clear lynch favourite for reasons I'll go into later
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 30 2012 15:21 GMT
#1532
re: Misder, I don't know why he has to be townie. I did go over his filter yesterday or the day before and found clues he'd choose roleblocker, though (as I found it an odd choice)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 15:59 GMT
#1533
Matt is townie cause he shot the cpr doc 2 minutes into the game with no copycat
Risk is townie cause he shot paqman
Snarfs is townie cause you mason'd him
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 30 2012 16:00 GMT
#1534
On May 31 2012 00:59 Mattchew wrote:
Matt is townie cause he shot the cpr doc 2 minutes into the game with no copycat
Risk is townie cause he shot paqman
Snarfs is townie cause you mason'd him


So the fuck what you did? That's no more convincing than anything I have on my side.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 16:14 GMT
#1535
On May 31 2012 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 00:59 Mattchew wrote:
Matt is townie cause he shot the cpr doc 2 minutes into the game with no copycat
Risk is townie cause he shot paqman
Snarfs is townie cause you mason'd him


So the fuck what you did? That's no more convincing than anything I have on my side.

because my plan would be what? shoot my teammate (who has a KP every night) and be done with it? I was in the 5th spot, I coulda picked so many other roles as scum that would have helped my innocence without compromising my teammates. You hammered sent but that was going to happen either day 1 or 2
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 30 2012 16:17 GMT
#1536
On May 31 2012 01:14 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
On May 31 2012 00:59 Mattchew wrote:
Matt is townie cause he shot the cpr doc 2 minutes into the game with no copycat
Risk is townie cause he shot paqman
Snarfs is townie cause you mason'd him


So the fuck what you did? That's no more convincing than anything I have on my side.

because my plan would be what? shoot my teammate (who has a KP every night) and be done with it? I was in the 5th spot, I coulda picked so many other roles as scum that would have helped my innocence without compromising my teammates.


That's why it'd be such a strong scum play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 17:58 GMT
#1537
On May 31 2012 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 01:14 Mattchew wrote:
On May 31 2012 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
On May 31 2012 00:59 Mattchew wrote:
Matt is townie cause he shot the cpr doc 2 minutes into the game with no copycat
Risk is townie cause he shot paqman
Snarfs is townie cause you mason'd him


So the fuck what you did? That's no more convincing than anything I have on my side.

because my plan would be what? shoot my teammate (who has a KP every night) and be done with it? I was in the 5th spot, I coulda picked so many other roles as scum that would have helped my innocence without compromising my teammates.


That's why it'd be such a strong scum play.

I think we have differences in opinions in what a strong scum play is given the situation.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
May 31 2012 02:51 GMT
#1538
Ehh, Toad was probably right. If it's not sandroba it's zelblade. Hell, I'd lean more towards zelblade. The guy's disappeared since the discussion stopped being about him.

He's way too neutral in all his posts and he hasn't really pushed anyone at all this game.

Like on day 1 rather than try to convince people himself that Sentinel isn't scum, he tries to get Toad and Palmar to convince people:
So Toad if that is what you think why is your vote on sentinel? Theres several hours left, use it to convince people (well or try to) to actually vote for who you think is scum?

Also Palmar what do you think about the people who have tried to push a sentinel lynch on the basis that he is (supposedly) vanilla and thus is "worth less" than a potential power role?

He tries to say that people are stupid for voting Sentinel with the only excuse being that Sentinel is a vanilla town, but it was really overemphasized, as Palmar pointed out.

Or throughout the game, he seems really hesitant to give scum reads. You can read his filter for yourself and see if you agree with me on that one, but that's the impression I got. I got a lot of a "safe" feeling from reading his filter. Trying to say things but not really saying things.

One thing that stood out to me though:
Misder probably town. Only scineario where I would consider him not town was if he was traitor and last scum is RB. Unlikely.

Followed by:
Which leaves us with misder, sandroba and toad. I am relatively sure the last scum lies within either toad or sandroba, though I have yet to decide which. Leaning toad at the moment. Busy today, I will make a decision when I get back to the thread tomorrow.

He doesn't make it clear how his thinking changed from Misder being town unless he's traitor (which we now know he isn't), to being one of three remaining scum.

At least sandroba's thought process seems clear.

Then, like Qatol said, there's the fact that all he claimed day 1 was that shenanigans had taken place, yet he didn't actually claim his role until it was apparent Sentinel was going to be lynched. If he had claimed his role a lot earlier, it would look good. This should probably only be a null tell, not a town tell as I'd been reading it, so really you shouldn't be using this as an excuse to not lynch zelblade.


Simplest explanation at this point is that zelblade is mafia. He was voting risk.nuke and I still think that counts for something. Anyways, zelblade or sandroba, probably the simplest explanation so yea.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
May 31 2012 02:52 GMT
#1539
But Toad said you shouldn't listen to me, so I've created a paradox. Good luck solving that one!
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
May 31 2012 03:01 GMT
#1540
One more reason to lynch zelblade > sandroba tomorrow (that order):

f you hit mylo and you want to no-lynch, you don't want the person who's role you don't know to be alive... think about what would happen if it turns out zelblade's been a copycat this entire time.
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