EPTIf I were mafia I would never bitch like this because I'm bringing alot of attention on to myself.
Toad needs to understand that saying something is the logical conclusion does not make it the logical conclusion.
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
If I were mafia I would never bitch like this because I'm bringing alot of attention on to myself. Toad needs to understand that saying something is the logical conclusion does not make it the logical conclusion. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
If I were SK which toad belives there is a decent chance I am I would never had put myself this high on the draft because highdraft's are likelier to get killed. But SK is invulnerable at night. All you would have to do is play town, generally blend in, and you could have a field day. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On May 17 2012 02:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: So if #3 guy checks #1 and #2 by randoming CPR/Janitor and doesn't report anything, would it be a good idea to have him checked by one of the investigators? But SK is invulnerable at night. All you would have to do is play town, generally blend in, and you could have a field day. I actually hadn't red the SK role-pm. Had no idea he was bulletproof. That's a mess. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
Which VTs should claim their choice? Since I'm fairly low on the queue, there's a good chance that my pick does not go through. Of the possible roles, which should I claim if I picked one and it didn't work? I'm thinking at least all the ones listed under "Mafia" roles, but any others? | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On May 17 2012 03:23 Snarfs wrote: Here's something that should be a safe question for some of the more experienced PYPers: Which VTs should claim their choice? Since I'm fairly low on the queue, there's a good chance that my pick does not go through. Of the possible roles, which should I claim if I picked one and it didn't work? I'm thinking at least all the ones listed under "Mafia" roles, but any others? I'm not an experienced PYPer by any means but I'll go ahead and point out the obvious that just because a "mafia" role was picked doesn't mean that mafia has that role of course. It could mean that or it could mean that someone denied it. I also think VTs should be cautious about claiming that they bounced. In a game where there are only one or two VTs, it doesn't really matter and in fact might even be useful. In a game with a lot of VTs, then if all of them claim it makes the mafia's decision about who to kill at night a lot easier. I would only claim VT if I had a specific and productive way of applying the information that gave me. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On May 17 2012 03:23 Snarfs wrote: Here's something that should be a safe question for some of the more experienced PYPers: Which VTs should claim their choice? Since I'm fairly low on the queue, there's a good chance that my pick does not go through. Of the possible roles, which should I claim if I picked one and it didn't work? I'm thinking at least all the ones listed under "Mafia" roles, but any others? If you pick traitor and don't get it claim no matter what. If its clear a role is in mafia hands (some pro-town player gets roleblocked for example) and you tried to pick it then claim, to narrow down who could have that role. Otherwise just use common sense. | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
@Qatol I think all of the roles for town are viable except for framer, traitor, and politician. It really depends on what playstyle you want to play. That's why I spent so long deciding what role to choose. I think mafia and sk have a much more limited set of viable roles they can choose. I really hope people are following the plan that was agreed upon. I was most scared about whoever was #3, but it seems like marvellosity is going to follow it, which is great. I'll be back later. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On May 17 2012 01:26 risk.nuke wrote: This me thing is not at all interesting. If I were SK which toad belives there is a decent chance I am I would never had put myself this high on the draft because highdraft's are likelier to get killed. If I were mafia I would never bitch like this because I'm bringing alot of attention on to myself. Toad needs to understand that saying something is the logical conclusion does not make it the logical conclusion. and you need to understand that I consider your play perfect for town if you are town with a perfect environment which is the reason I played like that as well until I realized that it's kinda dogmatic because a perfect environment will never happen. I stopped playing bw when SC2 was announced so no clue if the annology is still fitting but consider a guy who's half paralyzed and therefore can't properly play like someone who's not. Consider that he'll never ever have more than 40apm due to that situation. Would you tell him to play 2 hatch muta in ZvT because it's the way to go? No you would tell him to adjust his strategy according to the situation. You're not paralyzed but you have to play with other people and ESPECIALLY with all the new guys around there will never be a perfect situation like you are dreaming of. A mafia who has at LEAST the slightest clue about what he needs to do will have no problem at all getting enough people mistrust you to get you lynched with his buddies or at least get a NL. So while you might figure out all the mafias there are in a heartbeat with that strategy as town (and you will if you do that), you will still hurt town and at least the people who are easy to manipulate won't listen to you because of mafia. So no. I do not think you are a SK right now. I am not sure what you are and I am not sure if you are smart enough to pull the "trick" I was talking about as town, neither do I know if you are smart enough to realize the huge drawbacks to that strategy. That's why I was talking about it. If you are looking scummy on purpose to achieve something that's nice for you and town should be able to figure that out but there will always be people who don't figure it out forcing Kita to fake a greencheck on Toad to protect him from being lynched from retarded-townies who aren't able to figure out what is going on. Believe me I very much understand the situation Risk and I don't want that kind of confusion, even if it is supposed to help town. Again I don't know what's going on in your head right now but that's one of the options I am considering about you and I explained it to preemptivly stop a risk-lynch because as you can see a shitload of people are already considering to be mafia. Simple as that. If you choose something other than Janitor you WILL be lynched and we don't need people to look scummy on purpose to make other people not choose traitor or good mafia roles and this is the only warning you will get. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
So please, pick randomely no matter what | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On May 17 2012 04:20 Toadesstern wrote: OH and @slOosh please flip a coin or true-randomize it somehow like that. Please don't get influenced by this risk-shit and think that you have to choose Janitor know that risk has told people that he might not choose Janitor. It is very much possible (although incredibly paranoid^^) that that is the goal for mafia right now. So please, pick randomely no matter what What? Where is this post coming from - what does sloosh have to do with the janitor pick? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On May 17 2012 04:55 talismania wrote: What? Where is this post coming from - what does sloosh have to do with the janitor pick? Oh I looked at page 1 for the drafting results. He's the 3rd who signed up 8( Was talking about marv. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
Oh and I warned you I'm not playing along your shit plan. Don't come whining later. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On May 17 2012 04:59 risk.nuke wrote: It still doesn't make sense. Oh and I warned you I'm not playing along your shit plan. Don't come whining later. whatever. You had 24hours to say something and you did not. You only now started to talk about the "shitty" plan and you did not talk about it, only once the Role-PMs were out you started talking about it. So yeah, we WILL lynch you the moment we see a janitor in action. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
If you are going to playing anti-town I will make sure you get lynched with everything I can do. Maybe I even got the dayvig :p | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 17 2012 05:09 Toadesstern wrote: We all agreed to a plan before the game started. If you are going to playing anti-town I will make sure you get lynched with everything I can do. Maybe I even got the dayvig :p Toad, it only makes sense to lynch him for playing anti-town if he is also the strongest candidate out there to be mafia/SK. Trust me, he isn't. Besides, we can adapt easily enough - just have [UoN]Sentinel take Janitor. He may or may not get it depending on what marvellosity takes. But at least we have insurance. It can be frustrating for something like this to happen, but this is the best we can do right now. | ||
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