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On May 18 2012 06:36 austinmcc wrote:
I'm content dropping that post and this back and forth because I don't think it really gets us any useful information.
So instead, are you still fully happy with voting me? Regardless of whether you are or aren't, are there other targets you'd be willing to vote for?
The thing about people lurking is REALLY bothering me, mafias are the only oenss benefiting from this.
Hyaach is one, what if we vote for him and he turns townie? it just adds a 3 dead bodie to your list?
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BioSC: in case you are refering to this sole line On May 17 2012 03:11 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
i knew it!!! i was right since the beggining of the game.
does that bother you austin?
im not taking any chances now
##Vote austinmcc
i meant about the GOLDEN night kill from our vigilante, i just got exited i guess lol
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Ok, lets try something else. Who is your #2? Who do you think is Austin's scumbuddy?
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On May 18 2012 06:40 Unforgiven_ve wrote:BioSC: in case you are refering to this sole line Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 03:11 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
i knew it!!! i was right since the beggining of the game.
does that bother you austin?
im not taking any chances now
##Vote austinmcc i meant about the GOLDEN night kill from our vigilante, i just got exited i guess lol
Yes. I wanted to know why you instantly went to austin, when it was heavily implied that you suspected him from the start of the game, which as I pointed out wasn't true.
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On May 18 2012 06:36 austinmcc wrote:
I'm content dropping that post and this back and forth because I don't think it really gets us any useful information.
So instead, are you still fully happy with voting me? Regardless of whether you are or aren't, are there other targets you'd be willing to vote for?
Thats the thing whit you guys, you cant spot scum whit one sole line, you should look to the whole style of play. Of course you dont have reads on me, im just a townie trying to survive and giving some input when i can, when i feel something is scummy i say it. Thats why "My first list" was just a sketch-up. You can keep pushing your first thought if you something else is wrong/looks scummier
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 18 2012 06:44 BioSC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 06:40 Unforgiven_ve wrote:BioSC: in case you are refering to this sole line On May 17 2012 03:11 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
i knew it!!! i was right since the beggining of the game.
does that bother you austin?
im not taking any chances now
##Vote austinmcc i meant about the GOLDEN night kill from our vigilante, i just got exited i guess lol Yes. I wanted to know why you instantly went to austin, when it was heavily implied that you suspected him from the start of the game, which as I pointed out wasn't true.
My bad then. about the "does that bother you austin?" part i was refering to getting one of his partners killed.
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On May 18 2012 06:43 BioSC wrote:
Ok, lets try something else. Who is your #2? Who do you think is Austin's scumbuddy?
On May 17 2012 13:54 Unforgiven_ve wrote:... and i gave you my top 2 suspects, im just indecisive over my 3rd vote! My top 3: + Show Spoiler +
austincc
Anacletus
Dahdum/Mufaa/Hyaach maybe bio/crossfire
Anacletus play is just ridiculous.
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On May 18 2012 06:39 Unforgiven_ve wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 06:36 austinmcc wrote:
I'm content dropping that post and this back and forth because I don't think it really gets us any useful information.
So instead, are you still fully happy with voting me? Regardless of whether you are or aren't, are there other targets you'd be willing to vote for? The thing about people lurking is REALLY bothering me, mafias are the only oenss benefiting from this. Hyaach is one, what if we vote for him and he turns townie? it just adds a 3 dead bodie to your list?
If we vote for him and he turns townie, then I continue to make terrible reads. But, EVERYONE we vote for has a chance of flipping townie. I have a chance of flipping townie, and it's what will happen if you lynch me. If Hyaach isn't adding anything at all to town, and mafia is the only party benefitting from lurkers, then at the very least you ought to consider voting for him or crossfire.
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If ana or austin turns townie, im fucked. i dont have any good read on anyone else yet.
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On May 18 2012 06:19 Crossfire99 wrote:
Anacletus, do you just not care at all in this game?
If you are in this thread this close to the deadline, I want some input from you. What is your take on everything discussed? Why shouldn't we vote you for lurking?
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On May 18 2012 06:52 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
If ana or austin turns townie, im fucked. i dont have any good read on anyone else yet.
That's our point. I realized this yesterday night, that it's possible that I'm completely wrong with my leads and that we need to focus on finding someone with the highest possibility of being scum. Which is why we wanted you and the other people who don't post all that much to come in and contribute thoughts, so we can try to come up with the best lynch.
THAT is why people were calling you out. It's not scummy to post thoughts, It's scummy and overall bad play to just sit back and watch townies get lynched without saying anything.
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Do you swear on Jim Raynor's life you are townie? lol
That's the thing, if any of us dies, its GG. Mafia vs Lurkers. I see you/bio are the ones really pushing people.
pd: this just came to my mind, what if you to are the 2 mafia? Classic ending day swap?
pd2: i just have 10 more minutes, then i have to go out and do some stuff.
Make me change my mind, we still have a chance, why is there no possibility of you and bio are mafia?
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On May 18 2012 06:52 BioSC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2012 06:19 Crossfire99 wrote:
Anacletus, do you just not care at all in this game? If you are in this thread this close to the deadline, I want some input from you. What is your take on everything discussed? Why shouldn't we vote you for lurking?
I have posted my thoughts on people when I have had the time. I may not have the quantity of posts, but I feel I have tried to analyze and give reasoning for posts that I have made.
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We are at about one hour to go, and with no word from FirmTofu, I'm going to guess that something's come up and he can't actually post his case on me/vote. Which leaves me as the swing vote, something I'm not all too comfortable with, considering everything that's happened this day cycle.
At this point, I'm pretty convinced that a lurker lynch would be the best course today. We've got Unforgiven to contribute, which is nice. Not that it removes all suspicion off of him, but it's at least a start.
Crossfire: Are you locked in on your Anacletus vote? What of the other lurker as of today, Hyaach?
Anacletus: Are you committing suicide in the night phase regardless of the vote today? If so, I don't want to risk lynching a townie if you are just going to /out in the night
Austin: Are you confident in your read on the lurkers? Even if I believed you, we would need at least one more vote to secure a lynch.
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Honestly, I feel my main read, Anac, is becoming less likely to be mafia. He really seems resigned to voting for himself and just wants to die. I feel that if he was mafia and and somewhat close to winning, he should be desperate to stay alive (or at least neutral about it). But he isn't. ugh. this is rally throwing a wrench into my dieas.
##Unvote
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Oh, there's a possibility Bio is mafia  Some confirmed townies had their suspicions on him. He DID play very defensively early on. Either it's mindgames right now that he's looking elsewhere and contributing, or he actually realized that he was boned if he didn't extend his reads further and start considering other possibilities. Or something else, lol.
As to me . . . you say I've been playing with a townie's mind. Maybe I've been carrying that persona since D1. But you should look at two things. (1) My original cases on Brood and on darkfire. I'm not sheeping anyone else at those points, those were legitimate reads that I had. Especially the Brood case, as he wasn't even really being considered until I brought him up. (2) The end of D2/start of N2. Read my posts. I'm legitimately furious that for all the discussion we had, folks (including you) are coming in at the last second and voting yourselves and not contributing. Mafia doesn't want discussion. Sure, if i'm mafia playing with a town's mind then maybe I still make those posts, but I felt I was pretty clear that I was legitimately upset by how the end of D2 played out, and not just faking it.
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On May 18 2012 07:00 BioSC wrote:
Crossfire: Are you locked in on your Anacletus vote? What of the other lurker as of today, Hyaach?
I'm not locked in anymore lol. Just saw this post. I'll have to take a look at Hyaach's filter and get back to you on that.
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On May 18 2012 06:57 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
Do you swear on Jim Raynor's life you are townie? lol
That's the thing, if any of us dies, its GG. Mafia vs Lurkers. I see you/bio are the ones really pushing people.
pd: this just came to my mind, what if you to are the 2 mafia? Classic ending day swap?
pd2: i just have 10 more minutes, then i have to go out and do some stuff.
Make me change my mind, we still have a chance, why is there no possibility of you and bio are mafia?
I can swear on whatever you want, at the end of the day, its what I know from my PM and what people's perceptions of me are. I know I'm town, and I've stayed that way since day 1. This morning, I removed my unvote from Anacletus to try and get him to contribute, but it obviously hasn't worked. If I was scum, why would I need to put my neck out? I had the majority against him at the time, even if he switched off himself and onto me at the deadline. If I were scum, why would I do that? I want to prove I'm town, and if it means I have to admit I might be wrong about Anacletus, then so be it.
My read is that Austin is town, barely. He has been rather unlucky in his cases, but has made valid points that more than just mafia have been convinced by.
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Bio, I'm absolutely convinced that 1-2 lurkers are scum at this point. I got really frustrated with it at the end of D2, and tried to actually get some participation today (See starting off with giant bolded names).
Also note that the moment the discussion turns to lynching into lurkers, and the moment the whole town starts discussing them, we get a WHOLE lot more action. Not from Hyaach, but Cross and unforgiven are both here and active for the time being. I'm inclined to interpret that as being onto something.
This last hour or so, like how it seems to go with this game's days, has generated a whole lot of content at the very least. Lots of changes of heart, scheming from both town and mafia, and so I'm not entirely sure what to make of it as this exact moment.
Given that my reads on Brood, darkfire, dahdum, and mufaa were ALL wrong basically, I'm not terribly confident in my choice of lurker. But I've got to assume I'll get something right at some point. If you'd prefer a different lurker, I'm open to changing. Unless Firm comes back in here with some giant encyclopedic case on you that makes everything click, I am dead-set on voting for a lurker today.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 18 2012 07:04 austinmcc wrote:Oh, there's a possibility Bio is mafia Some confirmed townies had their suspicions on him. He DID play very defensively early on. Either it's mindgames right now that he's looking elsewhere and contributing, or he actually realized that he was boned if he didn't extend his reads further and start considering other possibilities. Or something else, lol. As to me . . . you say I've been playing with a townie's mind. Maybe I've been carrying that persona since D1. But you should look at two things. (1) My original cases on Brood and on darkfire. I'm not sheeping anyone else at those points, those were legitimate reads that I had. Especially the Brood case, as he wasn't even really being considered until I brought him up. (2) The end of D2/start of N2. Read my posts. I'm legitimately furious that for all the discussion we had, folks (including you) are coming in at the last second and voting yourselves and not contributing. Mafia doesn't want discussion. Sure, if i'm mafia playing with a town's mind then maybe I still make those posts, but I felt I was pretty clear that I was legitimately upset by how the end of D2 played out, and not just faking it.
i meant you are playing whit people's mind, as you are doing whit me right now -_-.
I want to prove I'm town, and if it means I have to admit I might be wrong about Anacletus, then so be it.
Anacletus is wrong about himself.
i will fall for your both arguments, lurkers did fuck us, and i stated the first day, we shouldnt care about them the first day, but the few people alive the more contributions we need.
Sadly i got to go. I want you to know i declined a sex session whit my gf just to have a couple hours to burn at this game lol.
##Unvote
##Vote Hyaach
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