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@FirmTofu: if you die on night 1 then the town gets zero information from the DT. If the Mafia has roleblocker, then they will block Claw and kill you.
DT claiming on Day 1... so either you are a DT and the mafia does everything they can to kill you asap, or you are a liar and we lynch you in the first couple days. Either way, this claim seems very suicidal. What kind of information do we get from it?
If you are just a townie and you die soon, I fail to see how we get any info.
If you are a DT, maybe you live one night and give us one report, which will likely be a confirmation of someone as Town. (The DT does not see roles, only alignment.)
If you are mafia, then you bank on there not being another DT to start a lynch on you Day 2; you draw a lot of attention to yourself with the belief that you are safe because no Vig will target you and no town would lynch you before catching the lie; as a mafia you could simply pass us Town reports on people and be remis about not finding Mafia; all the while you kill us off one by one.
@Gummy: You have already labeled 3 players as useless. It's still somewhat early, so I don't think that judgement can be made and only helps if your goal is to prompt them to talk more.
@Aces, they cannot prove their roles on Day 1. The mere fact that they were foolish and bold enough to claim, however, suggests that they are not likely Mafia and we are safer waiting til Day 2 to even consider lynching one of them. We should only lynch if it gives us information and lynching either of them Day 1 would give us far less info than letting them make it to the night.
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I'm on PDT (-7) time, so it's morning at work for me, hence recent inactivity. LAL (Lynch All Liars) is in the best interest of town since scum want people confused and questioning, as well as the ability to lie themselves.
I can post more at lunch/evening.
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Claw is obviously scum. When I get killed tonight you know the other mafia is Paschl.
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If we are successful in lynching Claw and we discover he was scum, the other mafia must be tofu.
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I have no idea what youre even talking about Gummy.
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Here is my logic:
Claw is not medic, but is banking on there being "another" medic who will waste his save on him since he has now "revealed" himself as the medic.
Tofu revealed detective contingent on Claw's being medic to save him. But this reasoning is inherently flawed since he is in the best case dead second night. Both revealed means night 1.) mafia kill medic -> 2.) mafia kill detective. This strategy is so obvious that these night kills won't even reveal any information as to the identity of the scum. Thus, we can infer that there was collusion between Claw and Tofu's role claims. Therefore, if one is scum, so is the other.
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Is it normal that people give day1 claims so much credit here? Maybe my skin is just a little rougher.
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Since my train of logic is fairly revelatory of my prior dishonesty, here's a poll.
Poll: Who should I save?DeMorcef (5) 22% paschl (5) 22% Ange777 (3) 13% dahdum (2) 9% AcesRequiem (2) 9% Matriarch (2) 9% FirmTofu (2) 9% Clawtrocity (2) 9% 23 total votes Your vote: Who should I save? (Vote): dahdum
(Vote): AcesRequiem
(Vote): Matriarch
(Vote): DeMorcef
(Vote): FirmTofu
(Vote): Clawtrocity
(Vote): paschl
(Vote): Ange777
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Lynch all liars is retarded. It is the correct strategy for townie special roles to lie, especially since medics cannot protect themselves. If a medic could protect himself, he would only then have no incentive to lie.
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Actually even then, it would be risky since there might be a mafia roleblocker.
Lying is just part of this game.
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On May 02 2012 02:41 dahdum wrote:
I'm on PDT (-7) time, so it's morning at work for me, hence recent inactivity. LAL (Lynch All Liars) is in the best interest of town since scum want people confused and questioning, as well as the ability to lie themselves.
I can post more at lunch/evening.
If claw and tofu are gone and we still haven't won, you will be the next person on my list.
Scum suspicion level:
1 ) Clawtrocity
2.) FirmTofu
3.) dahdum
4.) paschl
5.) AcesRequiem
6.) Matriarch
7.) Ange777
8.) DeMorcerf
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Not all lies are bad. It should be called selectively lynch a lot of liars.
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On May 02 2012 03:04 paschl wrote:
Not all lies are bad. It should be called selectively lynch a lot of liars.
So we have a lot of liars now? Sounds pretty scummy to me.
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On May 02 2012 03:08 Gummy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 03:04 paschl wrote:
Not all lies are bad. It should be called selectively lynch a lot of liars. So we have a lot of liars now? Sounds pretty scummy to me.
Turning my words around against me isnt particularly towny.
I was obviously making a general statement.
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+ Show Spoiler [A BETTER POLL] +Poll: Choose the option that best describes you.:3 (10) 43% I am a non-play in this game and I voted in the above poll (6) 26% Quatole is a cool person (4) 17% I am a player in this game and voted in the above poll (3) 13% 23 total votes Your vote: Choose the option that best describes you. (Vote): I am a player in this game and voted in the above poll
(Vote): I am a non-play in this game and I voted in the above poll
(Vote): Quatole is a cool person
(Vote): :3
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Gummy, you forgot youself in that vote.
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Gummy's being extremely aggressive even before he switched his vote on me. His extreme confidence is causing more confusion than the two role claims because he's pushing people around. However, I don't believe he's mafia and I don't plan on voting him.
I don't particularly put a lot of emphasis into day one role claims or role claims in general, but I figure confusing the mafia is the best way to keep people alive the longest. No mafia in their right mind would ever attack someone who claims medic day one because they're most likely just a townie. That means that when I claim medic they ignore me and I'm free to go about healing people. I don't even have to heal tofu because I've already said I would. That makes him a bad target to hit just because I've already said that the Mafia will avoid him. Next thing you know our detective and medic are not dying and the only people the mafia are targeting are townies.
There's obviously the chance that the mafia bite and go for us, but I don't see that happening.
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On May 02 2012 04:08 Clawtrocity wrote:
Gummy's being extremely aggressive even before he switched his vote on me. His extreme confidence is causing more confusion than the two role claims because he's pushing people around. However, I don't believe he's mafia and I don't plan on voting him.
I don't particularly put a lot of emphasis into day one role claims or role claims in general, but I figure confusing the mafia is the best way to keep people alive the longest. No mafia in their right mind would ever attack someone who claims medic day one because they're most likely just a townie. That means that when I claim medic they ignore me and I'm free to go about healing people. I don't even have to heal tofu because I've already said I would. That makes him a bad target to hit just because I've already said that the Mafia will avoid him. Next thing you know our detective and medic are not dying and the only people the mafia are targeting are townies.
There's obviously the chance that the mafia bite and go for us, but I don't see that happening.
But that is taking for granted that everyone, scum included, is just going to ignore day one claims. To me that is taking too big of a risk. Why bring attention to who is the medic and who is the detective so early in the game? This may be me bring such a raw newbie but I just don't see the point.
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