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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
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paschl
Germany666 Posts
Just think this trough Gummy, how pro town is what youre doing right now? And in your posts you say that you hinted at being the medic before Claw claimed, could you point me to the post? And again, how many forum mafia games have you played before? I just want to know how experienced you are. | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
this link. Furthermore, the ultimatum serves as a computation simplifier for those players unwilling or unable to run through the logic I have presented. I have reduced the question of "how does Gummy's lie differ from Claw's lie and what can we infer about their intentions based upon those differences" to "Who would we rather have on our team going forward?" | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On May 03 2012 00:35 Gummy wrote: Is there any way of making an ultimatum in this game? Since I'm not allowed to use a modkill as a bargaining chip, can I say "I will shut up for the rest of the game and post only enough not to get modkilled and vote #nolynch" every day thereafter unless you vote for XXXXX. If so.... I am making an ultimatum here. If Claw is not voted off today, then I will shut up for the rest of the game, only posting enough not to get modkilled. I will vote nolynch every day after this one if Claw is not voted off today. So make your choice between him or me. GL HF folks. Play to win. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing. This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game. Also, Firmtofu consider this as your first and final warning about editing. Do not edit your posts for any reason. | ||
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AcesRequiem
Belgium26 Posts
FirmTofu - You're looking less and less scummy to me. You had a good case going against Gummy, weren't afraid of being agressive, but he was able to give a semi-good reasoning for the actions you critized. Clawtrocity - I feel like your emotions get the better of yourself and you are slipping quiet badly because Gummy is attacking you like that. Please reconsider your vote, because you don't have a terrible case going atm. I think you yourself realize that scum won't post/spam that actively in a maffia game, because they would be too afraid of posting too much. Let's say he is scum, then this part makes no sense at all: At best he's a scum who'll lie and bullshit his way around until eventually getting lynched while his teammate sits in the back and does almost nothing. Did you even think when you posted this? My answer is certainly no. Mafia wants to survive, not bullshit around and hope everyone will take them for an overactive townie. Even if the Town is falling into that trap you think Gummy has set up, still he's being way too much of a benefit to the town for him to be scum in my eyes. My conclusion on you is that: a) you're either a Townie who wanted to be a martyr for a real blue role player (hence the role claim) and you are now trying to bait the mafia either more on you, which is horribly failing because Gummy is succesfulf in drawing all the attention to himself. This seems very unlikely. b) you are a blue role, who is convinced Gummy is scum but you can't get out of your words that good or make a good case against him. More likely, but I don't think this is the way, because you look like a smart guy to me. c) you're scum. This is the most likely option, because you have been defensive the entire game (only with your last game have you tried to make a case against Gummy and I believe that's out of entire desperation) and finger pointing to what other people do, so you should be able to those things aswell. Ange777 - You entirely convinced me Gummy isn't scum with your defense for him. Nice analysis. paschl - I have no clue at all why you are staying out of the "big" discussion and decided to vote on a complete silent player, please explain why you are suddenly distracted by Dahdum. - Gummy - 100% Townie, please try to keep the thread spam and poll free. I have seen that people have posted why I was writing this, will catch up to those posts now I can. | ||
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Matriarch
United States21 Posts
On May 03 2012 00:35 Gummy wrote: I am making an ultimatum here. If Claw is not voted off today, then I will shut up for the rest of the game, only posting enough not to get modkilled. I will vote nolynch every day after this one if Claw is not voted off today. So make your choice between him or me. GL HF folks. ##vote:Gummy That ultimatum just pushed Gummy from being an aggressive semi-believable town player to an anti-town scum in my eyes. Threatening town that if we don't do what he wants he won't help anymore? What die-hard town player (as he has tried to make himself look) would just check out because he doesn't get his way? None in my opinion. Sounds like scum trying to save himself. | ||
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AcesRequiem
Belgium26 Posts
Back to the game at hand. Gummy, please, don't go for an annoying mode like this. You're just frustrated because noone seems to listen to you. And that is probably right since you spammed like 2 pages full and noone has ever responded except for paschl. Please be patient and wait for people to get active, then they will give their thoughts, critize or agree with your arguments and cast a vote themselves. No need to get into childish behaviour, please. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
Please bold votes type "[b] ##vote: Mattchew[/b]" | ||
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Matriarch
United States21 Posts
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paschl
Germany666 Posts
Especially outside of Gummy since you already made a post about him. | ||
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AcesRequiem
Belgium26 Posts
So the real question would be, are you scum who joins Claw's bandwagon or just a fooled Townie? You are going to need a lot more than it takes to have a strong case and good reason to vote on Gummy imo. To me it just looks like you want to get rid of him atm, that's why I strongly recomend you to think again about that vote and give better arguments why would lynch Gummy. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
1) You really are the medic and absolutely sure about him lying. 2) Claw is the real medic and you are desperate to kill him before someone reveals you as scum. Although this logic is flawed as everbody would blame you if Claw flipped blue. Or you are playing a huge mindgame and already calculated that possibility? God, this is just soo confusing ... Anyway, bullying us townies is not the smartest move. It just makes your case against Claw more suspicous, as if you can't win our votes through reason and logical thinking. What I am most interested in right now is Claw's defense. I'd like to hear some more about his reasoning for lying/or defending himself as the real medic before I cast my vote. @Paschl: On May 03 2012 00:42 paschl wrote: And in your posts you say that you hinted at being the medic before Claw claimed, could you point me to the post? After Claw claimed medic, Gummy voted Claw and then immediately posted the following WITHOUT directly claiming to be medic himself. On May 01 2012 20:04 Gummy wrote: The way I see it, clawtrocity is: 1.) Useless 2.) A townie who is trying to take the bullet for the real medic. I have no reason to believe there would be two medics. 3.) Scum who is trying to cast away suspicion from himself. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
 How much time do we have left until voting ends? | ||
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Matriarch
United States21 Posts
The reason I voted for Gummy and not Claw is because of his desperate behavior his last few posts. I understand that it can be seen as him being frustrated that no one is listening to him but to me threatening us is NOT town play. Because it is only Day one and we have been going over and over the same couple points (i.e. role claiming, and game setup) it has been hard to get a solid read on anyone imo. My vote stands for Gummy right now because of his outrageous anti-town threats. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
DEADLINE IS 00:00 GMT (+00:00) Votes after this time will not count | ||
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dahdum
United States46 Posts
Gummy - Townie, I can't seem him being scum but I don't think he's helping much with the back and forth. Claw - Unsure, but I stand by my comment earlier that we don't gain by lynching him. Matriarch - Likely scum, very quiet so far and only analysis was her defense of her Gummy vote, in which she claims he's actually scum. Paschl - Got caught up in flame war, posts a lot of what-if and theory that doesn't help the game I think. Votes to lynch me, not sure what to think. FirmTofu - Claimed a role hard to fake, so I don't see the point in voting for him. Town: Ange77,Demorcef,AcesRequiem Since Matriarch hasn't contributed much analysis and votes to lynch Gummy, I'm going with her. Sounds like scum keeping a low profile, at worst a townie who won't contribute. Demorcef is also a low poster, but is providing sound analysis. ##vote: Matriarch My scum suspicion goes from: Matriarch -> Claw -> Paschl | ||
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AcesRequiem
Belgium26 Posts
##Vote: Clawtrocity | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
Clawtrocity (2) - AcesRequiem, Gummy gummy (2)- matriach, clawtrosity Matriarch (1)- dahdum dahdum (1)- paschl With 9 Alive its 5 to lynch, currently no one is set to be lynch. Please PM me or Mattchew if you see any mistakes. A little over 4 hours until the voting deadline | ||
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Matriarch
United States21 Posts
I don't believe I should post just a list of everyone in the game and tell what I think about them when there are only a few very active players. My list would be short and without any real information that hasn't been stated and re-stated by someone else. I will say again that I believe that either Gummy or Claw are scum. I vote Gummy because of his behavior and threats not to help the rest us with the scum hunt just because he isn't getting his way. Does that not seem like an anti-town stand to take? | ||
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