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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 10 2012 11:35 GMT
#541
On May 10 2012 20:29 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:55 syllogism wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:49 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:23 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?

If town openly decide on 2 good candidates for each spot then we should get roughly 10 votes for each, enough that scum can´t manipulate who, only who first. Assuming there are 6 scum, then votes placed on a candidate who only get 5 votes are totally wasted, they only help scum get more influence. Running without a chance of winning is pointless.

No, I don´t want to be the Empress, nor Emperor for that matter. I know my chances are very, very slim of getting picked, and even if I got elected I wouldn´t do much good there for the short while I would be in office.


Assuming scum somehow doesn't have a role in the picking of 4 names in a pre-D1 stage (with 10 hours to go before voting deadline, if the 24 hours post is taken as the start of the countdown), with about a quarter of the players not even having posted yet seems rather optimistic. Especially as the candidates so far are rather lacking in their appeal. Here we go:

Emperor
Acrofales - not much to say that hasn't been said. Excellent candidate. Must vote.
Carolus Magnus - has not said what he'll do as emperor, but is making sense.
Mattchew - mainly trolling and bromancing Hassy. Might be better than Carolus if he steps up his play.
U - not much reason to vote, not much reason not to vote.
ATLAS - a robot, who has done little other than troll this game.
Quicksilver - anybody taking this seriously?

Empress
Hassybaby - if you like cats, vote for him. WTF.
Companion Cube - is about as useful as you'd expect from an inanimate object. Still better than Hassy atm
Kurumi - wants to be empress so he can play with his boobies...


If I am missing someone please let me know, but I would really like some quality put forward and some meaningful discussion on what people plan to do if they're voted for. I don't believe we should agree on 4 people, but I do believe we should try to consolidate votes on people we can agree on are townie. So far that has been rather hard.

Are you serious? Please elaborate. Quicksilver is actually a decent candidate for either position, but I'm not going to explain why, deal with it

Syllo, what the fuck? I don´t care about people smurfing, but if you do, make bloody certain you post with your smurf.

Claim now, which smurf are you!


Hes Carlous if you took the time to read the post below that one ^^
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 11:36 GMT
#542
thank you for that, zelblade. Also, thanks for responding to something in the middle of that wall, proving you read it, helping my townread on you. You are going to get my vote for Empress if you want it.

Do you want my vote for Empress?

On May 10 2012 18:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
I am smurfing in this game and scum.

good look bitches

notice he said good look
wtf is good look supposed to mean
is he messing with us
or is he phonetically dyslexic
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
U
Profile Joined March 2012
Burma20 Posts
May 10 2012 11:37 GMT
#543
On May 10 2012 20:27 Hassybaby wrote:
A real reason to vote for me? I'll give four

- I'm the most transparent person ever. If I'm scum, its fucking obvious
- I'll elect a decent person to be the Archbishop. I already have an idea about who that will be, but that's subject to change
- I won't be abusing my pardon power. I'll use it sensibly and block the emperor's lynch if needed.
- The bromance with Mattchew is there because he's a good player. He'll make a very good Emperor.

You are not the most transparent person ever. If you look at your filter you did not give any read yet. You dont even want to tell who your Arch-Bishop will be. If Mattchew is a good player he has to show it in this game. You and Mattchew do not deserve a single vote from anybody.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18441 Posts
May 10 2012 11:37 GMT
#544
On May 10 2012 20:22 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:17 Acrofales wrote:
Lol, I actually had Carolus pegged as probably Sandro. This "slip" improves my confidence in a vote for them. I know Syllo's scumplay is transparent (at least, it was in DFM2). Not sure on Sandro's, but I have heard his scumplay is bad too.

However, why on earth do you think Quicksilver is a decent vote? He's posted one-liners with meme gifs in about 90% of his posts. This makes him either Bugs (self-proclaimed scum) or some other person who is posting meme gifs in 90% of his posts... either way, a really bad choice.

Carolus, will you marry me? Not sure we can marry until D1, but I was already vaguely toying with the idea of one of us stepping down from emperor and throwing in a bid for empress instead. With the new information, I am more confident that would be a good idea. Brazilian-Finnish mix has to make some beautiful girls! Carolus for empress! You can be Charlottemagne

You can marry right now. Cycle 1 a new marriage turns begins and all pending marriages that didn't end out working will be canceled. Cycle 2 a new marriage turn begins and all pending marrages that didn*t end out working will be canceled... something like that. So yeah you can marry right now

Hrmm, if the emperor marries someone who doesn't become empress, what happens? Is the person he married beheaded to make way for the empress? Is the marriage simply annulled (never consummated, so should be okay), or does Caller invoke the right to do whatever the hell he pleases without ever giving us any clarity up front?

Similar clarification would be nice for the situation where a married person becomes emperor/empress due to the emperor/empress dying.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 11:38 GMT
#545
hassy is latching onto off topic material which is scummy
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 10 2012 11:38 GMT
#546
I dont really want to run for empress.

But if theres still no good candidate willing to step up in a few hours (since thats when I have to go) and people support me I guess I might run.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 10 2012 11:39 GMT
#547
On May 10 2012 20:38 zelblade wrote:
I dont really want to run for empress.

But if theres still no good candidate willing to step up in a few hours (since thats when I have to go) and people support me I guess I might run.


Would you want to marry me zelblade as we have *great* timezones (close fuck yeah!)?
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 10 2012 11:40 GMT
#548
It's more calling you an idiot BM.

And no U, I'm not going to say who my Archbishop will be because i don't have to yet. There's a full day to see who is the best candidate and I'd quite like to use it to decide who will be best, as opposed to throwing out a name.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 10 2012 11:40 GMT
#549
Thanks but no thanks.

Marriage is for life yo, needa think about that :D
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 11:42 GMT
#550
Hassy... *glares*
I would kill you if I was scum, you bitch.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 11:42 GMT
#551
On May 10 2012 20:37 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:22 Toadesstern wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:17 Acrofales wrote:
Lol, I actually had Carolus pegged as probably Sandro. This "slip" improves my confidence in a vote for them. I know Syllo's scumplay is transparent (at least, it was in DFM2). Not sure on Sandro's, but I have heard his scumplay is bad too.

However, why on earth do you think Quicksilver is a decent vote? He's posted one-liners with meme gifs in about 90% of his posts. This makes him either Bugs (self-proclaimed scum) or some other person who is posting meme gifs in 90% of his posts... either way, a really bad choice.

Carolus, will you marry me? Not sure we can marry until D1, but I was already vaguely toying with the idea of one of us stepping down from emperor and throwing in a bid for empress instead. With the new information, I am more confident that would be a good idea. Brazilian-Finnish mix has to make some beautiful girls! Carolus for empress! You can be Charlottemagne

You can marry right now. Cycle 1 a new marriage turns begins and all pending marriages that didn't end out working will be canceled. Cycle 2 a new marriage turn begins and all pending marrages that didn*t end out working will be canceled... something like that. So yeah you can marry right now

Hrmm, if the emperor marries someone who doesn't become empress, what happens? Is the person he married beheaded to make way for the empress? Is the marriage simply annulled (never consummated, so should be okay), or does Caller invoke the right to do whatever the hell he pleases without ever giving us any clarity up front?

Similar clarification would be nice for the situation where a married person becomes emperor/empress due to the emperor/empress dying.

Do you realize you are parroting me here?
My post was on the bottom of the page
On May 10 2012 20:21 Bill Murray wrote:
jeez i hope i dont become ann boleyn
...no, caller, don't do it. That's a bad Caller!

University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18441 Posts
May 10 2012 11:43 GMT
#552
On May 10 2012 20:29 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:55 syllogism wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:49 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:23 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?

If town openly decide on 2 good candidates for each spot then we should get roughly 10 votes for each, enough that scum can´t manipulate who, only who first. Assuming there are 6 scum, then votes placed on a candidate who only get 5 votes are totally wasted, they only help scum get more influence. Running without a chance of winning is pointless.

No, I don´t want to be the Empress, nor Emperor for that matter. I know my chances are very, very slim of getting picked, and even if I got elected I wouldn´t do much good there for the short while I would be in office.


Assuming scum somehow doesn't have a role in the picking of 4 names in a pre-D1 stage (with 10 hours to go before voting deadline, if the 24 hours post is taken as the start of the countdown), with about a quarter of the players not even having posted yet seems rather optimistic. Especially as the candidates so far are rather lacking in their appeal. Here we go:

Emperor
Acrofales - not much to say that hasn't been said. Excellent candidate. Must vote.
Carolus Magnus - has not said what he'll do as emperor, but is making sense.
Mattchew - mainly trolling and bromancing Hassy. Might be better than Carolus if he steps up his play.
U - not much reason to vote, not much reason not to vote.
ATLAS - a robot, who has done little other than troll this game.
Quicksilver - anybody taking this seriously?

Empress
Hassybaby - if you like cats, vote for him. WTF.
Companion Cube - is about as useful as you'd expect from an inanimate object. Still better than Hassy atm
Kurumi - wants to be empress so he can play with his boobies...


If I am missing someone please let me know, but I would really like some quality put forward and some meaningful discussion on what people plan to do if they're voted for. I don't believe we should agree on 4 people, but I do believe we should try to consolidate votes on people we can agree on are townie. So far that has been rather hard.

Are you serious? Please elaborate. Quicksilver is actually a decent candidate for either position, but I'm not going to explain why, deal with it

Syllo, what the fuck? I don´t care about people smurfing, but if you do, make bloody certain you post with your smurf.

Claim now, which smurf are you!


Huh? He claimed Carolus, hydra with Sandro... seemed pretty damned obvious to me.

@BM: your wall made some sense, but claiming your meta is transparent is not true. You make a bad emperor/empress candidate because your playstyle is haphazard. No offense, but your reads, posts, and actions, are ALL over the place as town, allowing a scum BM to get away easily. My play is highly structured and logical, meaning that unless you think I am another Ace, my play should be an open book. This makes me prone to get shot rather early as town, but that risk is present regardless of whether I am emperor or not (see SSM if you want an example of a completely unimportant Acro to get shot in the face).
That said, I kinda like your wall with reads.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 10 2012 11:44 GMT
#553
Also I asked Toad regarding how marriages actually work, and since its *kind of* unclear he said it works something like this.

Basically when a marriage request is sent in, said request is recorded on a spreadsheet, but whoever you are requesting will not actually be informed, and you will only get married if the other person says he wants to marry you to the mods too (AKA theres no alert of a proposal).

prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 10 2012 11:45 GMT
#554
On May 10 2012 20:40 Hassybaby wrote:
It's more calling you an idiot BM.

And no U, I'm not going to say who my Archbishop will be because i don't have to yet. There's a full day to see who is the best candidate and I'd quite like to use it to decide who will be best, as opposed to throwing out a name.

But that is not transparency. I dont care if you later change your mind to a better candidate. When you do not say who you want for Arch-Bishop then you are not transparent and you can not say that you are transparent.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 10 2012 11:45 GMT
#555
And another smurf down....
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#556
fucking hell
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#557
4 in a row bitches!
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#558
On May 10 2012 20:45 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:40 Hassybaby wrote:
It's more calling you an idiot BM.

And no U, I'm not going to say who my Archbishop will be because i don't have to yet. There's a full day to see who is the best candidate and I'd quite like to use it to decide who will be best, as opposed to throwing out a name.

But that is not transparency. I dont care if you later change your mind to a better candidate. When you do not say who you want for Arch-Bishop then you are not transparent and you can not say that you are transparent.


Which smurf are you prp?
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#559
Can I just post on this account now?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#560
If i was to pick right now, it would probably be Carolus or Jitsu
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
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