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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 12:01:21
May 10 2012 12:00 GMT
#581
On May 10 2012 20:57 Bill Murray wrote:
"Caller wants to marry GM (needed a 4th name, sry )
GM wants to marry GM
=> Toad and blub are not married, Caller and GM are now married"
this has to be wrong
you typed GMs name one too many times

correct, I already edited it, I'm kind of in a rush

No divorces, only by force
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18307 Posts
May 10 2012 12:01 GMT
#582
On May 10 2012 20:49 Bill Murray wrote:
I have made more replies and reads to posts in this game than I have made in my last 2 scum games combined
Your play is structured and logical AS BOTH SIDES, meaning you're not an easy read for people who are logical, with no sense like me. I have sense, whereas people like Hassy don't.

They can't read you
I can

I know you are town
but i know you are really fucking confused right now because you're in a position to lead, and you don't know what to do.
You got backed into this when you claimed, so take it.

To say my posts are all over the place as town is probably true, but you're admitting that I'm posting all over the place right now, which contradicts what you said about me not being transparent. You seem to admit this by saying I have good reads in my wall.

1 question for you: Who is more likely to go back on their own reads in the same post, town or scum?


I'd also like to apologize. I am sorry I called you a bitch, Hassy. It's 7:47 comin outta the sky, gonna take me down to memphis for a midnight ride we gonna move playin in a travellin band

yeah

flyin cross the land

trynna get a hand

playin in a travelin band



WWHOOOOOOHOHHOHOO


This is what I mean with you being completely confusing as both town and scum. You make quite a decent point and then draw completely wrong conclusions from it.

1. Your wall post is decent because it reveals a lot of information about you (not necessarily about the people you are posting about). It's quite a townie thing to do. However, you continuously obfuscate townie moves by posting random stuff. This makes you exceptionally bad as an emperor/empress, as I don't want to be second-guessing you all the time.

2. Changing opinion often is something I am FAR more likely to do as town than scum. Mainly because as scum I already KNOW who is scum and don't need to second-guess myself. I can pick some random townies and start building up bogus cases on them. I don't need to change opinion unless someone "convinces" me. However, as town, I don't know who is scum and who is town and will be far more inclined to try to look at things from both sides and find reasons for actions in either a scum, or a town motivation, without being biased either way. As scum, I can be completely free to nail someone to the cross with a case painting out all the little slips they made during the game. As town, I must always be aware that someone playing scummy might still be a delusional town.

3. Posting all over the place doesn't make you transparent if you do it regardless of alignment. The only thing that can be said in its favour is that by posting a LOT, you give a LOT to analyze. However, the longer a game goes on, the less I enjoy going through giant filters.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 12:02 GMT
#583
On May 10 2012 19:30 Acrofales wrote:
Because I tried to go over people's filters and found them sorely missing: Please add to the player list:

1. Mattchew
2. A.T.L.A.S.
3. P-Body
4. Laika
5. Companion Cube
6. OpZ
7. Adam4167
8. U
9. YES_THIS_IS_DOG
10. The_Bard
11. Carolus Magnus
12. QuickSilver7
13. Mr. Potatohead
14. Itouchyou
15. Hassybaby
16. Drazerk
17. Strongandbig
18. Vaderseven
19. Quatol
20. Bluelightz
21. Zelblade
22. Sinani206
23. Kurumi
24. Errandor
25. Acrofales
26. MajuGarzett
27. Forumite
28. Jitsu
29. bagmanager
30. Bill Murray

University of Kentucky Basketball #1
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 10 2012 12:02 GMT
#584
On May 10 2012 20:56 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:48 zelblade wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:46 Hassybaby wrote:
If i was to pick right now, it would probably be Carolus or Jitsu


Why Jitsu? Care to tell us?


From the way it's worded, I think the heretic ability is a one-time use. Jitsu's one of those players who doesn't fuck around and will use it sensibly. On top of this, I really think it's a pro-town ability no matter who get's it. The only way it would not be is if the Archbishop doesn't use it, at which point we kill him and the Emperor re-assigns it.

Same reason for syllo/sand, but they have the benefit of two brains so they can pick a better target. Hopefully


No it isnt a pro-town ability no matter who gets it. Its a free rolecheck for scum, and if it works for frames (No idea about this just speculation).... Yes its still useful to an extent, but why give it to scum when no scum archbishop will ever deliever a [unless frames work/its a bus] scum check?

By saying that you are willing to elect Jitsu as you archbishop means you are relatively sure he is town. I am strongly suspicious that you seem to want to elect him simply because he is supposedly good, and its good no matter how who gets it. I dont see a single reason why you think hes town, only what good he could do with it IF hes town.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 12:04 GMT
#585
1. how does me having fun lead to YOU second guessing me, bub?

ok... your 2. only looks good on me, considering I did that multiple times with Drazerk in the same post

You're not being as genuine as you were, Acrofales. Are you nervous now that someone is here with a higher energy level than you? You Europeans can only dog me so much :3

U C WUT I DID THAR?
btw, Acrofales, don't send in to marry me
I want a divorce you scummy parroting shit u can get some rope
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 10 2012 12:04 GMT
#586
On May 10 2012 21:02 zelblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:56 Hassybaby wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:48 zelblade wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:46 Hassybaby wrote:
If i was to pick right now, it would probably be Carolus or Jitsu


Why Jitsu? Care to tell us?


From the way it's worded, I think the heretic ability is a one-time use. Jitsu's one of those players who doesn't fuck around and will use it sensibly. On top of this, I really think it's a pro-town ability no matter who get's it. The only way it would not be is if the Archbishop doesn't use it, at which point we kill him and the Emperor re-assigns it.

Same reason for syllo/sand, but they have the benefit of two brains so they can pick a better target. Hopefully


No it isnt a pro-town ability no matter who gets it. Its a free rolecheck for scum, and if it works for frames (No idea about this just speculation).... Yes its still useful to an extent, but why give it to scum when no scum archbishop will ever deliever a [unless frames work/its a bus] scum check?

By saying that you are willing to elect Jitsu as you archbishop means you are relatively sure he is town. I am strongly suspicious that you seem to want to elect him simply because he is supposedly good, and its good no matter how who gets it. I dont see a single reason why you think hes town, only what good he could do with it IF hes town.


Yes. at this moment i don't think anyone is town. Therefore I gave names about who I think is good.

It's also a free rolecheck for everyone, not just scum. Re-read the mention. If scum outs a blue, we know who to protect as well as vigs won't shoot them. Still beneficial
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 12:04 GMT
#587
jk, love you!!
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 12:05 GMT
#588
On May 10 2012 21:04 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 21:02 zelblade wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:56 Hassybaby wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:48 zelblade wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:46 Hassybaby wrote:
If i was to pick right now, it would probably be Carolus or Jitsu


Why Jitsu? Care to tell us?


From the way it's worded, I think the heretic ability is a one-time use. Jitsu's one of those players who doesn't fuck around and will use it sensibly. On top of this, I really think it's a pro-town ability no matter who get's it. The only way it would not be is if the Archbishop doesn't use it, at which point we kill him and the Emperor re-assigns it.

Same reason for syllo/sand, but they have the benefit of two brains so they can pick a better target. Hopefully


No it isnt a pro-town ability no matter who gets it. Its a free rolecheck for scum, and if it works for frames (No idea about this just speculation).... Yes its still useful to an extent, but why give it to scum when no scum archbishop will ever deliever a [unless frames work/its a bus] scum check?

By saying that you are willing to elect Jitsu as you archbishop means you are relatively sure he is town. I am strongly suspicious that you seem to want to elect him simply because he is supposedly good, and its good no matter how who gets it. I dont see a single reason why you think hes town, only what good he could do with it IF hes town.


Yes. at this moment i don't think anyone is town. Therefore I gave names about who I think is good.

It's also a free rolecheck for everyone, not just scum. Re-read the mention. If scum outs a blue, we know who to protect as well as vigs won't shoot them. Still beneficial

this post is scum agenda 101
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18307 Posts
May 10 2012 12:09 GMT
#589
On May 10 2012 20:52 zelblade wrote:
Not bad, half our smurfs have been wiped out. I think theres like 4 more people before we find WBG.

Also I find it very very hard to believe that Acro didnt know why he was shot n1 (or 2 idc) in SSM, considering the post game discussion and stuff.

+ Show Spoiler [offtopic justification for SSM] +

Pfft, most of the post-game was emo QQ about the setup. People calling Sandro a cheater, people calling DrH a bad host and people generally being nasty to eachother. If you think the reason I got shot was in any way memorable in the crap that was the post-game analysis you're nuts. All I remember is telling Sandro and MrZentor who I was going to bomb. Neither of those were scum. The only other person to know I even had an item should have been Chaoser, who was also not scum. Of course, Sandro shared quite a bit of info with Bugs, so that could've been info that slipped. Of course, I was very near to bombing Coag, which would've gotten a scum blown up.


Ontopic: fine, I am perfectly happy to retract that statement. Scum has always had a good reason to shoot me (early in the game). I believe I am currently giving them another good reason to shoot me by being active and trying to get other people to post actively and stop trolling (I believe that a good number of us are doing that now, so yay). I believe I will be a good emperor and will lead town to victory.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 10 2012 12:10 GMT
#590
On May 10 2012 21:04 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 21:02 zelblade wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:56 Hassybaby wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:48 zelblade wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:46 Hassybaby wrote:
If i was to pick right now, it would probably be Carolus or Jitsu


Why Jitsu? Care to tell us?


From the way it's worded, I think the heretic ability is a one-time use. Jitsu's one of those players who doesn't fuck around and will use it sensibly. On top of this, I really think it's a pro-town ability no matter who get's it. The only way it would not be is if the Archbishop doesn't use it, at which point we kill him and the Emperor re-assigns it.

Same reason for syllo/sand, but they have the benefit of two brains so they can pick a better target. Hopefully


No it isnt a pro-town ability no matter who gets it. Its a free rolecheck for scum, and if it works for frames (No idea about this just speculation).... Yes its still useful to an extent, but why give it to scum when no scum archbishop will ever deliever a [unless frames work/its a bus] scum check?

By saying that you are willing to elect Jitsu as you archbishop means you are relatively sure he is town. I am strongly suspicious that you seem to want to elect him simply because he is supposedly good, and its good no matter how who gets it. I dont see a single reason why you think hes town, only what good he could do with it IF hes town.


Yes. at this moment i don't think anyone is town. Therefore I gave names about who I think is good.

It's also a free rolecheck for everyone, not just scum. Re-read the mention. If scum outs a blue, we know who to protect as well as vigs won't shoot them. Still beneficial


Yes but if scum gets it its power is drastically reduced, and if scum have some way of messing it up we are more likely than not going to blow a lynch on a townie.

I am not going to vote for Hassy for two reasons.
1) I will not support Jitsu for archbishop - He has done nothing this game, I dont care how "good" he is when all he has done is try (and not even try hard) to be empreor.
2) I think Hassy is looking sketchy atm.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 10 2012 12:11 GMT
#591
Zel, how are they going to mess it up when it will be posted in the thread for all to see?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 10 2012 12:11 GMT
#592
On May 10 2012 21:09 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:52 zelblade wrote:
Not bad, half our smurfs have been wiped out. I think theres like 4 more people before we find WBG.

Also I find it very very hard to believe that Acro didnt know why he was shot n1 (or 2 idc) in SSM, considering the post game discussion and stuff.

+ Show Spoiler [offtopic justification for SSM] +

Pfft, most of the post-game was emo QQ about the setup. People calling Sandro a cheater, people calling DrH a bad host and people generally being nasty to eachother. If you think the reason I got shot was in any way memorable in the crap that was the post-game analysis you're nuts. All I remember is telling Sandro and MrZentor who I was going to bomb. Neither of those were scum. The only other person to know I even had an item should have been Chaoser, who was also not scum. Of course, Sandro shared quite a bit of info with Bugs, so that could've been info that slipped. Of course, I was very near to bombing Coag, which would've gotten a scum blown up.


Ontopic: fine, I am perfectly happy to retract that statement. Scum has always had a good reason to shoot me (early in the game). I believe I am currently giving them another good reason to shoot me by being active and trying to get other people to post actively and stop trolling (I believe that a good number of us are doing that now, so yay). I believe I will be a good emperor and will lead town to victory.


Well ok ill give you the benefit of the doubt but I find it really hard to believe a relative newbie wouldnt want to find out why scum decided to shoot him n1 but w/e.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 10 2012 12:12 GMT
#593
On May 10 2012 20:52 zelblade wrote:
Not bad, half our smurfs have been wiped out. I think theres like 4 more people before we find WBG.

Also I find it very very hard to believe that Acro didnt know why he was shot n1 (or 2 idc) in SSM, considering the post game discussion and stuff.

WBG is BagManager, the smurf he used in Bastard Mafia.
:3
Companion Cube
Profile Joined February 2012
32 Posts
May 10 2012 12:12 GMT
#594
IN THE CASE I DO NOT GET ENOUGH LOVE TO BECOME AN EMPESS OR HER HAIR... (HEIR?)
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO-ONE APPOINTS ME FOR ARCHBISHOP.
CHANCELLOR IS FINE, HOWEVER.

I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO STEP UP THEIR PLAY.
I AM NOT GOING TO START ANSWERING RANDOM READ QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK YOU CAN ACCURATELY DETERMINE SOMEONE'S ALIGNMENT ALREADY.
BUT I DO WANT TO CO-OPERATE WITH THOSE OF THE MIGHTY HAMBURGER BLOODLINE.
♥
The Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you, and does not speak. If it does speak, disregard its advice.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 10 2012 12:13 GMT
#595
On May 10 2012 21:11 Hassybaby wrote:
Zel, how are they going to mess it up when it will be posted in the thread for all to see?


This is a caller game. There might be frames or something which have the potential to screw up the check or something along those lines.

+ Show Spoiler +
And no this is not hidden knowledge if thats where you are going to go
Carolus Magnus
Profile Joined April 2012
France172 Posts
May 10 2012 12:13 GMT
#596
Do we know anything about mafia team size?

I hope I haven't been tricked into playing another multi faction game
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 10 2012 12:16 GMT
#597
On May 10 2012 21:12 Companion Cube wrote:
IN THE CASE I DO NOT GET ENOUGH LOVE TO BECOME AN EMPESS OR HER HAIR... (HEIR?)
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO-ONE APPOINTS ME FOR ARCHBISHOP.
CHANCELLOR IS FINE, HOWEVER.

I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO STEP UP THEIR PLAY.
I AM NOT GOING TO START ANSWERING RANDOM READ QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK YOU CAN ACCURATELY DETERMINE SOMEONE'S ALIGNMENT ALREADY.
BUT I DO WANT TO CO-OPERATE WITH THOSE OF THE MIGHTY HAMBURGER BLOODLINE.
♥


Hello, Would you like to marry me companion cube?
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Companion Cube
Profile Joined February 2012
32 Posts
May 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#598
On May 10 2012 21:16 Bluelightz wrote:
Hello, Would you like to marry me companion cube?


DEAR BLUELIGHTZ, I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO MARRY YOU.
BUT MY DUTY PREVENTS ME FROM MARRYING ANYONE.
I AM VERY SORRY. I STILL LIKE YOU THOUGH. ♥

BEEP: (IT IS A ROLE-RESTRICTION)
The Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you, and does not speak. If it does speak, disregard its advice.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#599
i am bill murray
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18307 Posts
May 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#600
On May 10 2012 21:04 Bill Murray wrote:
1. how does me having fun lead to YOU second guessing me, bub?

ok... your 2. only looks good on me, considering I did that multiple times with Drazerk in the same post

You're not being as genuine as you were, Acrofales. Are you nervous now that someone is here with a higher energy level than you? You Europeans can only dog me so much :3

U C WUT I DID THAR?
btw, Acrofales, don't send in to marry me
I want a divorce you scummy parroting shit u can get some rope


I don't doubt that you have a high energy level. It'd be great. I've seen Sandro has an insane amount of energy when he wants to. I know Mattchew does too if he puts his mind to it. The rest are more unknown to me, but it seems you are willing to put in a LOT more effort than you did in DFM2, which I like. In general: the more people actively posting, the better. I am actually thinking you would make a decent chancellor, as I am becoming more convinced you're town, simply due to your bouncing enthusiasm, which seems unlikely as a scum player: it's infective and getting many people to post more.

Fine, I won't marry you. Especially as I'm still unsure how marriage works with becoming emperor (which forces you into a marriage with the empress, insinuating that your prior spouse must die).
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