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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18000 Posts
May 10 2012 10:03 GMT
#501
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 10 2012 10:23 GMT
#502
On May 10 2012 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?

If town openly decide on 2 good candidates for each spot then we should get roughly 10 votes for each, enough that scum can´t manipulate who, only who first. Assuming there are 6 scum, then votes placed on a candidate who only get 5 votes are totally wasted, they only help scum get more influence. Running without a chance of winning is pointless.

No, I don´t want to be the Empress, nor Emperor for that matter. I know my chances are very, very slim of getting picked, and even if I got elected I wouldn´t do much good there for the short while I would be in office.
:3
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18000 Posts
May 10 2012 10:30 GMT
#503
Because I tried to go over people's filters and found them sorely missing: Please add to the player list:

1. Mattchew
2. A.T.L.A.S.
3. P-Body
4. Laika
5. Companion Cube
6. OpZ
7. Adam4167
8. U
9. YES_THIS_IS_DOG
10. The_Bard
11. Carolus Magnus
12. QuickSilver7
13. Mr. Potatohead
14. Itouchyou
15. Hassybaby
16. Drazerk
17. Strongandbig
18. Vaderseven
19. Quatol
20. Bluelightz
21. Zelblade
22. Sinani206
23. Kurumi
24. Errandor
25. Acrofales
26. MajuGarzett
27. Forumite
28. Jitsu
29. bagmanager
30. Bill Murray
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18000 Posts
May 10 2012 10:49 GMT
#504
On May 10 2012 19:23 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?

If town openly decide on 2 good candidates for each spot then we should get roughly 10 votes for each, enough that scum can´t manipulate who, only who first. Assuming there are 6 scum, then votes placed on a candidate who only get 5 votes are totally wasted, they only help scum get more influence. Running without a chance of winning is pointless.

No, I don´t want to be the Empress, nor Emperor for that matter. I know my chances are very, very slim of getting picked, and even if I got elected I wouldn´t do much good there for the short while I would be in office.


Assuming scum somehow doesn't have a role in the picking of 4 names in a pre-D1 stage (with 10 hours to go before voting deadline, if the 24 hours post is taken as the start of the countdown), with about a quarter of the players not even having posted yet seems rather optimistic. Especially as the candidates so far are rather lacking in their appeal. Here we go:

Emperor
Acrofales - not much to say that hasn't been said. Excellent candidate. Must vote.
Carolus Magnus - has not said what he'll do as emperor, but is making sense.
Mattchew - mainly trolling and bromancing Hassy. Might be better than Carolus if he steps up his play.
U - not much reason to vote, not much reason not to vote.
ATLAS - a robot, who has done little other than troll this game.
Quicksilver - anybody taking this seriously?

Empress
Hassybaby - if you like cats, vote for him. WTF.
Companion Cube - is about as useful as you'd expect from an inanimate object. Still better than Hassy atm
Kurumi - wants to be empress so he can play with his boobies...


If I am missing someone please let me know, but I would really like some quality put forward and some meaningful discussion on what people plan to do if they're voted for. I don't believe we should agree on 4 people, but I do believe we should try to consolidate votes on people we can agree on are townie. So far that has been rather hard.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 10 2012 10:51 GMT
#505
On May 10 2012 17:37 Acrofales wrote:
[...]

As for my stance on whom to make chancellor, I want a question answered first:
must the emperor/empress make a chancellor/archbishop immediately? Or in D1?

If it's in D1, I see no rush in saying who I think will make a good chancellor. If it's immediately, I'll make a statement before the voting deadline. Which reminds me: am I correct in assuming voting deadline is 10 PM CET tonight?

On May 10 2012 05:03 Caller wrote:
ALL PMS should be out. Please send me your votes for Emperor and Empress!

You have 24 hours!

20:30 GMT (+00:00)
That's the deadline for me if I type in [time]05:00KST and it says 22:00 CEST (+02:00) for me. CET is only +1 right?
but that's subject to improvements, as everything else. For science


About the second question. I don't really know. I'd say appointing them immediatly sounds reasonable but who knows. Seems like Callers way to handle these situations is to make rules up for them on the fly.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
May 10 2012 10:55 GMT
#506
On May 10 2012 19:49 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:23 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?

If town openly decide on 2 good candidates for each spot then we should get roughly 10 votes for each, enough that scum can´t manipulate who, only who first. Assuming there are 6 scum, then votes placed on a candidate who only get 5 votes are totally wasted, they only help scum get more influence. Running without a chance of winning is pointless.

No, I don´t want to be the Empress, nor Emperor for that matter. I know my chances are very, very slim of getting picked, and even if I got elected I wouldn´t do much good there for the short while I would be in office.


Assuming scum somehow doesn't have a role in the picking of 4 names in a pre-D1 stage (with 10 hours to go before voting deadline, if the 24 hours post is taken as the start of the countdown), with about a quarter of the players not even having posted yet seems rather optimistic. Especially as the candidates so far are rather lacking in their appeal. Here we go:

Emperor
Acrofales - not much to say that hasn't been said. Excellent candidate. Must vote.
Carolus Magnus - has not said what he'll do as emperor, but is making sense.
Mattchew - mainly trolling and bromancing Hassy. Might be better than Carolus if he steps up his play.
U - not much reason to vote, not much reason not to vote.
ATLAS - a robot, who has done little other than troll this game.
Quicksilver - anybody taking this seriously?

Empress
Hassybaby - if you like cats, vote for him. WTF.
Companion Cube - is about as useful as you'd expect from an inanimate object. Still better than Hassy atm
Kurumi - wants to be empress so he can play with his boobies...


If I am missing someone please let me know, but I would really like some quality put forward and some meaningful discussion on what people plan to do if they're voted for. I don't believe we should agree on 4 people, but I do believe we should try to consolidate votes on people we can agree on are townie. So far that has been rather hard.

Are you serious? Please elaborate. Quicksilver is actually a decent candidate for either position, but I'm not going to explain why, deal with it
Carolus Magnus
Profile Joined April 2012
France172 Posts
May 10 2012 10:58 GMT
#507
That guy is so stupid
Carolus Magnus
Profile Joined April 2012
France172 Posts
May 10 2012 10:59 GMT
#508
Well since that happened, sandroba is also playing with me. Can we get elected?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 10 2012 11:01 GMT
#509
....guys how about all the smurfs just claim?

The way this is going, we're just gonna call you idiots anyway and you'll still not achieve what you wanted.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 10 2012 11:02 GMT
#510
lolol syllo

Puttingin my votes for Matt + Hassy.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Carolus Magnus
Profile Joined April 2012
France172 Posts
May 10 2012 11:03 GMT
#511
On May 10 2012 20:02 Bluelightz wrote:
lolol syllo

Puttingin my votes for Matt + Hassy.

Why would you do that bluelightz? What have they done to push town towards anything useful? All they have done so far is spam
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 10 2012 11:07 GMT
#512
On May 10 2012 20:03 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:02 Bluelightz wrote:
lolol syllo

Puttingin my votes for Matt + Hassy.

Why would you do that bluelightz? What have they done to push town towards anything useful? All they have done so far is spam


Okay.......

Acrofalos for Emperorz! he is being very pro-town etc etc.
I think you as an empress would do great =)
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Carolus Magnus
Profile Joined April 2012
France172 Posts
May 10 2012 11:10 GMT
#513
On May 10 2012 20:07 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:03 Carolus Magnus wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:02 Bluelightz wrote:
lolol syllo

Puttingin my votes for Matt + Hassy.

Why would you do that bluelightz? What have they done to push town towards anything useful? All they have done so far is spam


Okay.......

Acrofalos for Emperorz! he is being very pro-town etc etc.
I think you as an empress would do great =)

Any particular reason why you don't want to vote for us? You are behaving strangely
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 10 2012 11:16 GMT
#514
On May 10 2012 20:10 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:07 Bluelightz wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:03 Carolus Magnus wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:02 Bluelightz wrote:
lolol syllo

Puttingin my votes for Matt + Hassy.

Why would you do that bluelightz? What have they done to push town towards anything useful? All they have done so far is spam


Okay.......

Acrofalos for Emperorz! he is being very pro-town etc etc.
I think you as an empress would do great =)

Any particular reason why you don't want to vote for us? You are behaving strangely


Where did I say that I wouldn't vote for you?, you want to be emperor? or what?

Also, syllo what do you think of what should we do with all the smurfs? I'd like to get rid of them as soon as possible unless they have revealed their true self, smurf's are a huge hindrance to my reads, as most/some of them are mostly trolling.

Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18000 Posts
May 10 2012 11:17 GMT
#515
Lol, I actually had Carolus pegged as probably Sandro. This "slip" improves my confidence in a vote for them. I know Syllo's scumplay is transparent (at least, it was in DFM2). Not sure on Sandro's, but I have heard his scumplay is bad too.

However, why on earth do you think Quicksilver is a decent vote? He's posted one-liners with meme gifs in about 90% of his posts. This makes him either Bugs (self-proclaimed scum) or some other person who is posting meme gifs in 90% of his posts... either way, a really bad choice.

Carolus, will you marry me? Not sure we can marry until D1, but I was already vaguely toying with the idea of one of us stepping down from emperor and throwing in a bid for empress instead. With the new information, I am more confident that would be a good idea. Brazilian-Finnish mix has to make some beautiful girls! Carolus for empress! You can be Charlottemagne
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 10 2012 11:18 GMT
#516
On May 10 2012 20:17 Acrofales wrote:
Lol, I actually had Carolus pegged as probably Sandro. This "slip" improves my confidence in a vote for them. I know Syllo's scumplay is transparent (at least, it was in DFM2). Not sure on Sandro's, but I have heard his scumplay is bad too.

However, why on earth do you think Quicksilver is a decent vote? He's posted one-liners with meme gifs in about 90% of his posts. This makes him either Bugs (self-proclaimed scum) or some other person who is posting meme gifs in 90% of his posts... either way, a really bad choice.

Carolus, will you marry me? Not sure we can marry until D1, but I was already vaguely toying with the idea of one of us stepping down from emperor and throwing in a bid for empress instead. With the new information, I am more confident that would be a good idea. Brazilian-Finnish mix has to make some beautiful girls! Carolus for empress! You can be Charlottemagne


Possibly Blazinghand?

Also, with that Carulous/Acrofales will you marry me?
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 11:19 GMT
#517
On May 10 2012 06:47 Itouchyou wrote:
lol at smurf.

If i am emperor i will kill the evil vile Jitsu for the crime of bribery

had a townread here... this is actually helping it.
people don't know what to think about this guy

On May 10 2012 07:04 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 07:00 U wrote:
I hope we can quickly move on from this one-liner phase that the game is in. This is a Caller game but we can just as well not play if we dont play to win.

I see no reason to vote for anybody who has posted in this thread yet. If you want me to be Emperor then vote for me. I will read the thread and I will lynch the scum that I find and I will make a town aligned player my Chancellor.

Scum

I kind of agree with this sentiment, but I'm going to reserve judgment.

On May 10 2012 07:06 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 07:00 U wrote:
I hope we can quickly move on from this one-liner phase that the game is in. This is a Caller game but we can just as well not play if we dont play to win.

I see no reason to vote for anybody who has posted in this thread yet. If you want me to be Emperor then vote for me. I will read the thread and I will lynch the scum that I find and I will make a town aligned player my Chancellor.

Sounds reasonable, except for one thing. Who are you, and why would we vote for a no-name we know nothing of?

a good question from a logical man
but it takes someone with sense to decode this
he is trying to be forcefully protown, which is something you see more out of scum, honestly
im town and i PREFER the one liners, honestly. I was scared, but I've breezed through about half the game.

On May 10 2012 07:15 U wrote:
I am U.

You should vote for me because I am town. Both the Emperor and the Empress is very powerful and it is very important that they are active and transparent so that town can know that they are using the powers for town. The Chancellor and the Arch-Bishop could use their night power on the Empress and the Emperor respectively, but because these are prime targets for Godfather and Framer it cannot be trusted. The two appointed investigative roles should be used on scummier and less active players.

I am going to be active and transparent enough that you will all soon know that I am town.

setup speculation... scum using it to back out of scumhunting since mafia was created
information instead of analysis? he's also talking about mafia roles, even... i'd rather him be coordinating blues positively than what he's doing here..

On May 10 2012 07:18 Drazerk wrote:
U is scum

you seem to KNOW that...
this solidifies my read on you.

On May 10 2012 07:58 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 07:55 U wrote:
Drazerk and Forumite looks very bad because they keep predicting things about me. They say that I am "newbie" that I am going to stop being active and they dont write any arguments for this. They just spread mistrust. I will lynch them.

Acrofales looks best so far and he will be my Chancellor if he is not Emperor or Empress.


If you haven't noticed I've spread the mistrust evenly except for the people I like because of their names because I know I can trust or marry them or watch them kill us all and laugh along the way.

ok, i'm retracting my scumread on you
you just don't know how to play this game...
that makes you a policy lynch

On May 10 2012 08:01 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On May 10 2012 07:47 U wrote:
On May 10 2012 07:36 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 07:15 U wrote:
I am U.

You should vote for me because I am town. Both the Emperor and the Empress is very powerful and it is very important that they are active and transparent so that town can know that they are using the powers for town. The Chancellor and the Arch-Bishop could use their night power on the Empress and the Emperor respectively, but because these are prime targets for Godfather and Framer it cannot be trusted. The two appointed investigative roles should be used on scummier and less active players.

I am going to be active and transparent enough that you will all soon know that I am town.

At the moment all I know is that you're either a complete newbie with no history anywhere, or a smurf (which seems more likely). I dislike voting smurfs because they are made explicitly to hide any kind of meta-analysis and obfuscate your playstyle. I dislike voting for complete newbs, because their ability to play a proper game is unproven.

That puts U at a disadvantage. At the moment I am liking our trio of trolls less than U, but that doesn't mean much. I'm used to not being very fond of Kurumi, and Drazerk spamming up the thread is Drazerk spamming up the thread. At least he hasn't shot VE in the face yet (possibly only because VE is either not playing or hiding behind a smurf).

Names are nothing. Is there a player on the player list that you will vote because of his name?

I dont think that anybody in this player list would deserve to become Emperor because of his name. The Emperor needs to be town and he needs to be able to show this. That is all that is important and that is what you have to vote for.


You realize we are PMing caller right?

It doesn't matter how we vote who he wants to be emperor will be emperor he is the king of bastard mods so scum will probably get the emperor and empress

You bring up a good point of course. However, assuming the bastard mod will be a bastard is going to get us nowhere. Play to the best of your abilities and if the bastard mod screws us over, then that's too bad. Random voting just because the bastard mod *might* ignore your vote is pointless: why do his work for him?

here's to hoping

On May 10 2012 08:01 Forumite wrote:
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On May 10 2012 07:55 U wrote:
Drazerk and Forumite looks very bad because they keep predicting things about me. They say that I am "newbie" that I am going to stop being active and they dont write any arguments for this. They just spread mistrust. I will lynch them.

Acrofales looks best so far and he will be my Chancellor if he is not Emperor or Empress.

OMGUS much? It´s you who we are doubting because you are a unknown player, and after your first few posts you´ve gone defensive have mostly posted one-liners, angry ones at that. It looks like our first impression of you was correct.


Not an OMGUS at all. I find both of you very scummy, and potentially teammates. Forumite even put your name in the middle of his list when questioning that dude from Burma named U

On May 10 2012 08:11 Acrofales wrote:
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On May 10 2012 08:00 Mattchew wrote:
On May 10 2012 07:43 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 07:35 Mattchew wrote:
you should vote for me.. im consistent

Hrmmm... explain yourself. I have played 2 games with you and read another few, and you seem rather inconsistent. In GoT mafia you were very active town. In DFM2 you lurked as town. And recently you came off a game (Wheel of Fortune I think) in which you were a rather convincing scum by being quite active. Consistent you are not.

I, on the other hand, am consistent! I will be active regardless of whether I am scum or town! Activity is just something I do. If you think I'm scum that will give you plenty to analyze (see GoT mafia, or DFM2). Similarly, I will act very townie and be active when town (see Newbie VIII or SSM. The latter I was active in the thread despite the game being played largely in PMs).

i meant my role hasnt changed like draz

and you are trying way too hard for a caller game

but your probs town cause of that

This is my first "Caller" game. It being a bastard game, doesn't mean we should just roll over and die. In fact, the best way of dealing with it really seems to be to just ignore the whole bastard aspect of it and play as if it doesn't exist, until you have clear evidence of what is bastardly about the game. Seeing as we have a weird 24h pre-D1 limbo in which to do the mayoral vote, that means townie-hunt in overdrive to get emperor/empress votes right!

man, don't listen to them. Caller's games are awesome. Can we drop this?

On May 10 2012 08:41 A.T.L.A.S. wrote:
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On May 10 2012 08:13 Drazerk wrote:
On May 10 2012 08:11 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 08:00 Mattchew wrote:
On May 10 2012 07:43 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 07:35 Mattchew wrote:
you should vote for me.. im consistent

Hrmmm... explain yourself. I have played 2 games with you and read another few, and you seem rather inconsistent. In GoT mafia you were very active town. In DFM2 you lurked as town. And recently you came off a game (Wheel of Fortune I think) in which you were a rather convincing scum by being quite active. Consistent you are not.

I, on the other hand, am consistent! I will be active regardless of whether I am scum or town! Activity is just something I do. If you think I'm scum that will give you plenty to analyze (see GoT mafia, or DFM2). Similarly, I will act very townie and be active when town (see Newbie VIII or SSM. The latter I was active in the thread despite the game being played largely in PMs).

i meant my role hasnt changed like draz

and you are trying way too hard for a caller game

but your probs town cause of that

This is my first "Caller" game. It being a bastard game, doesn't mean we should just roll over and die. In fact, the best way of dealing with it really seems to be to just ignore the whole bastard aspect of it and play as if it doesn't exist, until you have clear evidence of what is bastardly about the game. Seeing as we have a weird 24h pre-D1 limbo in which to do the mayoral vote, that means townie-hunt in overdrive to get emperor/empress votes right!


They changed my role and gave me a posting restriction...


And? What purpose does this statement have other than to serve to cause confusion in the town? why not keep it to yourself? I see almost no town benifits to bringing this up, but a great deal of scum benifts.

Don't elect Drazerk

agreed but im questioning whether or not he is just being a <censored>, and/or a <person who is bad>. on accident, on purpose... idc... cant rule on intent

On May 10 2012 08:47 Hassybaby wrote:
I just wanted to make sure I could have my fingers in all the pies

because let's be honest, Mattchew is where my heart is. But Draz is where my lady-part is

fox = gay

On May 10 2012 08:53 Forumite wrote:
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On May 10 2012 08:50 P-body wrote:
 4861686120796f75206964696f74204e6973616e69

Stop with the hexadecimal messages. No, not even for funny yibes, because we still need to check the string every time.

please explain
it's 6:30 am and im scumhunting a caller game
only you and acrofales know how i feel.... bash head against desk style feeling....

On May 10 2012 08:54 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Hello humble peasants, this is your emperor. Vote for me or I'll send my army to slaughter your family and rape your pet animals. In return, I'll give you scum to be killed so you can think life is good and keep paying me taxes, so I can have feasts and hookers, while you eat bread and fuck your ugly wives. GG.

man everyone was ugly as shit back then
also, dude, i heard some people have problems digesting grain. just sayin'

On May 10 2012 08:58 P-body wrote:
 49206c6f6f6b20666f727761726420746f20636f6e76657273696e67207769746820616c6c206f6620796f7520616674657220627265616b66617374

dude ............
stop.

On May 10 2012 09:00 QuickSilver7 wrote:
What I did when I saw this thread

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Anybody mind summarizing the OP for me?

in soviet russia u dont troll european
european troll u

On May 10 2012 09:09 QuickSilver7 wrote:
Actually I'm going to vote for myself as Emperor, if you want to win I encourage you to do the same.

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If I hadn't tried to vote for someone already that I have a town read on, I might consider voting for you here

On May 10 2012 09:11 Carolus Magnus wrote:
The gods only allow those of royal blood to become kings. The translation to this is vote for me because I'm the greatest.
Matchew bow down to your king. I know you want to make a difference, but play time is over. Support me and I shall reward you, since I read that your intentions are noble.
Forumite I have your number. Keep doing what you are doing and you shall be the first to hang to please the peasants.

yeah, boy, call him out
You hear, that, Forumite?

On May 10 2012 10:45 The_Bard wrote:
Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

rode a tank
held a generals rank
when the blitzkrieg raged
and the bodies stank

PLEASE TO MEET U
HOPE U GUESS MY NAME
BUT WHATS PUZZLIN U IS THE
NATURE OF MY GAAAME

On May 10 2012 10:57 Mattchew wrote:
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On May 10 2012 10:51 P-body wrote:
On May 10 2012 10:45 The_Bard wrote:
Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
I stuck around at St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a-time for a change
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain

I rode a tank
Held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, ah yeahOne of my favorite songs...Currently, I'm not interested in marrying with anyone who doesn't make catfaces, and I suggest we lynch the other Robot, as he has clearly been corrupted (see his first post).

Re: Post Restriction, it started out as a harmless joke, but Caller made it permanent in my role as punishment.


p.s. i had put "generous" instead of Generals
ah, the power of the wall post

On May 10 2012 16:25 Carolus Magnus wrote:
I wasn't addressing you specifically, you are clearly not the worst offender.

Drazerk/Forumite/Carolus Magnus/Bluelightz

On May 10 2012 16:43 zelblade wrote:
And lol looks like another smurf got busted

?

On May 10 2012 17:37 Acrofales wrote:
@Zellblade and Carolus: I agree with your sentiment that there are too few people taking this game seriously in any way shape or form.

If I am emperor I will use my lynch like a vig shot: if I am completely certain someone is scum, I will lynch (shoot) him/her. Otherwise I will lynch a lurker or someone actively disrupting the game. So far we have quite a few in that second category, so separate call-out to them to start taking this game seriously, regardless of whether I am voted or not:

@P-Body: so you have an incredibly irritating posting restriction. Does that REALLY mean you have to write a wall of hexadecimal crap that translates to a continuation of the rolling stones? Or one of many of your other nonsense messages. A posting restriction seems like a major pain in the backside, but the reason it worked for Foolishness, is because he DIDN'T SPAM the thread with useless crap: he posted only when he had something to say (however cryptic he actually had to say it in his limerick form).

@Sinani/dog: you're almost as bad as P-Body. Except that your nonsense is actually legible.

@TheBard: see Sinani.

@Mattchew: cats are cute, we get it. Now start playing the game, instead of criticizing those that are trying.

I actually find CompanionCube and Drazerk marginally tolerable compared to the above four.

As for my stance on whom to make chancellor, I want a question answered first:
must the emperor/empress make a chancellor/archbishop immediately? Or in D1?

If it's in D1, I see no rush in saying who I think will make a good chancellor. If it's immediately, I'll make a statement before the voting deadline. Which reminds me: am I correct in assuming voting deadline is 10 PM CET tonight?

I don't... Well, Drazerk is actually hard to read... I've gone scum, town, scum... then I realized he has to rhyme. ... but he could be faking it........................... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh wifom
i don't mind leaving Drazerk around, for now. Like he said, it is better to have someone thinking for theirself, and at least he is doing that.
Also, how can you hate on a rolling stones continuation? It's no Within you, Without you, but still.
Acrofales, previously to this post, I had a huge town read on you.
Don't fuck that up.

On May 10 2012 18:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
I am smurfing in this game and scum.

good look bitches

if he's not fucking with us, that actually makes me look more town, as I am not a smurf.
hi-five!

On May 10 2012 18:12 Forumite wrote:
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On May 10 2012 18:11 Drazerk wrote:
I am ok committing genocide on the smurfs soon
Finding that scum will be a great boon


Do you think WBG was sincere or just messing with us?

sincere

On May 10 2012 18:15 Drazerk wrote:
Those who taunt will die
As you see I think he did not lie

this post actually sways Drazerk into my "leaning town" category of my mind for the first time... hey, at least it proves I don't have confirmation bias.

The reasoning is his usage of the word think coupled with agreeing with how I feel about the ordeal.

On May 10 2012 18:19 Acrofales wrote:
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On May 10 2012 17:45 Carolus Magnus wrote:
That is a not good criteria to use for the lynch. You do not only lynch people who you are "completely certain of", but rather people who are most likely to flip mafia, the latter almost always being the case. Lynching lurkers or people actively disrupting the game is generally bad, because with former you lack information and with latter you are quite likely to hit town. While vig shots sometimes should be used on lurkers, even then you have to justify it with something other than "they were lurking". If you somehow get elected, I will not accept lurker lynches with no additional justification. Anyway, everyone should be voting for me as I'm clearly town and will be playing seriously.


I believe you're confusing inactivity and lurking. Other than that, I don't quite see why you're arguing with my semantics. I believe I was perfectly clear in my post saying that I will use the lynch given to the emperor as a vig shot (which gets reloaded every day, yay). I have played enough games and read enough guides to know how to properly use a vig shot and your lecture is arguing about the semantics. When I say "completely certain of" and you say "most likely" we mean the same thing, because we can never "be completely certain of" anybody. I just used the phrase to indicate a stronger probability than the wishywashy most likely.

That said, I believe that you, after myself, would currently make the best emperor. You are actually making sense in your posts. However, there can be only one. And I make a better emperor than you.

1. As I said to U, I am not a smurf and anybody can go through my previous games to get a meta-read on me. My activity is almost guaranteed and I can, and will be held accountable for it.

2. I promise to be as transparent as possible. I will post my reads, and thus my lynch targets in advance, giving people time to react and convince me to lynch someone else. I may not be persuaded, but I believe in making my play as transparent as possible to the benefit of town. I will not just lynch someone out of the blue, leaving everybody to wonder what is going on.

this is illogical. By that argument, *I* would make a better emperor than you

1) my meta is the easiest to read
2) I have been making a damn wall post involving scumhunting... look at my previous scum games...

On May 10 2012 18:21 Acrofales wrote:
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On May 10 2012 18:12 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:11 Drazerk wrote:
I am ok committing genocide on the smurfs soon
Finding that scum will be a great boon


Do you think WBG was sincere or just messing with us?

If I recall, BagManager was WBG's smurf in a previous game. However, he may still just be messing with us.

oh, wow. That is legit. Seriously? Good catch. Hi-five. Scumhunting can be done in a Caller game, see, kids?

On May 10 2012 18:35 Carolus Magnus wrote:
I'm not arguing semantics, the point was that I do not want the lynch to be misused as vigs often are by players of varying experience levels. It is not semantics, because your phrasing made it seem like you are more likely to lynch a lurker than your best read. Regardless, I believe you have clarified your position, so we can move on.

I agree with him on this, and I disagreed when you not only said semantics, but reiterated the term. You are preaching to the choir, Acrofales.

On May 10 2012 18:42 Carolus Magnus wrote:
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On May 10 2012 18:34 Companion Cube wrote:
AS A REMINDER, I AM VERY INTERESTED IN BECOMING THE EMPRESS.
I THINK HASSY WOULD BE A WONDERFUL HEIR.
ALTHOUGH I GUESS THE OTHER WAY AROUND IS OKAY AS WELL.
BUT I AM AFRAID ALL THE DOGS IN THE GAME MAY NOT LIKE HIS CAT-FETISH.

I ALSO SUPPORT CAROLUS AND/OR ACROFALES FOR EMPEROR. ♥

What has hassy done to make you think he would be a "wonderful heir"? The only possible argument I could see that he has been blatantly useless, which may point towards him not being afraid and hence town, but that's a weak indicator right now and an electing someone who doesn't care isn't a good idea anyway.

but then the choir preachs at the useless cube
sounds like a good song to me to sing

On May 10 2012 19:55 syllogism wrote:
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On May 10 2012 19:49 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:23 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Forumite wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:30 Acrofales wrote:
Also, you're wrong. Here is from the OP:

Of course, there is an order to inheritance. All players will PM me the name of two players, one for Emperor and one for Empress. The person with the most votes becomes Emperor, and his heir is the player behind him in line. Similarly, the player for Empress will become Empress and the following player will be the Empress's heir.

The number of votes decides the line of succession. All anybody has to do is decide who he/she wants as Emperor and who as Empress. Send those two names to Caller.

HINT: I should be emperor.

You are missing the point, the heirs are almost as important as the first pick, but much easier to get elected for scum. If we don´t make sure there´s a good candidate for each heir position, and that they get enough votes, then I can guarantee that both heirs will be scum, or whoever scum want in that position.

Heh, you're assuming that we can get people organized enough to NOT vote for their prime candidate for emperor, but their second-best, just so he gets enough votes to be heir? This sounds like a scum plan to be able to manipulate the votes to me. More so, because insofar as I understand the OP and the later posts, the list is NOT publicized and we don't even know who is heir to the throne.

Everybody should vote for whoever they think would make the best emperor/empress. Vote for someone you think is town, and capable of using the power wisely. For now, I am voting for ME for emperor. It'd be great if some more people stepped forward as empress. Hassybaby and CompanionCube seem to be the only two who have put their name forward. I am not really convinced by either so far, although I prefer cube to Hassy: despite his flavour posting he seems to be putting in some effort into the game and cutting down on the trolling one-liners.

Forumite, have you thought of entering the race for empress?

If town openly decide on 2 good candidates for each spot then we should get roughly 10 votes for each, enough that scum can´t manipulate who, only who first. Assuming there are 6 scum, then votes placed on a candidate who only get 5 votes are totally wasted, they only help scum get more influence. Running without a chance of winning is pointless.

No, I don´t want to be the Empress, nor Emperor for that matter. I know my chances are very, very slim of getting picked, and even if I got elected I wouldn´t do much good there for the short while I would be in office.


Assuming scum somehow doesn't have a role in the picking of 4 names in a pre-D1 stage (with 10 hours to go before voting deadline, if the 24 hours post is taken as the start of the countdown), with about a quarter of the players not even having posted yet seems rather optimistic. Especially as the candidates so far are rather lacking in their appeal. Here we go:

Emperor
Acrofales - not much to say that hasn't been said. Excellent candidate. Must vote.
Carolus Magnus - has not said what he'll do as emperor, but is making sense.
Mattchew - mainly trolling and bromancing Hassy. Might be better than Carolus if he steps up his play.
U - not much reason to vote, not much reason not to vote.
ATLAS - a robot, who has done little other than troll this game.
Quicksilver - anybody taking this seriously?

Empress
Hassybaby - if you like cats, vote for him. WTF.
Companion Cube - is about as useful as you'd expect from an inanimate object. Still better than Hassy atm
Kurumi - wants to be empress so he can play with his boobies...


If I am missing someone please let me know, but I would really like some quality put forward and some meaningful discussion on what people plan to do if they're voted for. I don't believe we should agree on 4 people, but I do believe we should try to consolidate votes on people we can agree on are townie. So far that has been rather hard.

Are you serious? Please elaborate. Quicksilver is actually a decent candidate for either position, but I'm not going to explain why, deal with it

yeah, get over it. I agree


OK. Drazerk and Forumite I'm going to let off the hook

Bluelightz is not behaving like I saw from him as town

also, the WBG claim is actually ok to lynch the bag manager over.

I have voted for Emperor, but I have yet to vote for Empress
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p.s. if i decide to not let forumite off the hook, and he flips scum, i suspect carolus a lot more than i do now for his use of the word clearly
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May 10 2012 11:21 GMT
#519
On May 10 2012 20:17 Acrofales wrote:
Lol, I actually had Carolus pegged as probably Sandro. This "slip" improves my confidence in a vote for them. I know Syllo's scumplay is transparent (at least, it was in DFM2). Not sure on Sandro's, but I have heard his scumplay is bad too.

However, why on earth do you think Quicksilver is a decent vote? He's posted one-liners with meme gifs in about 90% of his posts. This makes him either Bugs (self-proclaimed scum) or some other person who is posting meme gifs in 90% of his posts... either way, a really bad choice.

Carolus, will you marry me? Not sure we can marry until D1, but I was already vaguely toying with the idea of one of us stepping down from emperor and throwing in a bid for empress instead. With the new information, I am more confident that would be a good idea. Brazilian-Finnish mix has to make some beautiful girls! Carolus for empress! You can be Charlottemagne

I pmed caller to marry you, actually.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 10 2012 11:21 GMT
#520
jeez i hope i dont become ann boleyn
...no, caller, don't do it. That's a bad Caller!
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