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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 18 2012 12:51 GMT
#2921
i don't understand why you take things that i don't say in bold and blue at face value
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 18 2012 13:33 GMT
#2922
On May 18 2012 21:51 Caller wrote:
i don't understand why you take things that i don't say in bold and blue at face value


So this is Pokemon then?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
May 18 2012 13:38 GMT
#2923
--- Nuked ---
Mr. PotatoHead
Profile Joined April 2012
112 Posts
May 18 2012 13:39 GMT
#2924
Oh uh, hi :X
The Great Duke of WIFOMtopia
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 18 2012 13:46 GMT
#2925
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 18 2012 13:49 GMT
#2926
Queue The_Bard:
And another one down
Another one down
Another one bites the dust


But really? You were a first-time player hiding on a smurf? What's the point? You have no meta to hide either way. Caller
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 18 2012 13:49 GMT
#2927
Damn. Ninja'd with the same song!
Mr. PotatoHead
Profile Joined April 2012
112 Posts
May 18 2012 13:55 GMT
#2928
I suppose I didn't want anyone to pick me off or keep me alive because they know me and like/dislike what I do. But I was mostly just hiding my activity here from ppl outside here :D
The Great Duke of WIFOMtopia
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 18 2012 14:03 GMT
#2929
Have you played mafia somewhere else?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 18 2012 14:05 GMT
#2930
There's a reason I ask, btw. It's not just to make idle chitchat.
Mr. PotatoHead
Profile Joined April 2012
112 Posts
May 18 2012 14:24 GMT
#2931
If you ever play SC2 Mafia, I'm the guy you want on your team.
The Great Duke of WIFOMtopia
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 18 2012 14:26 GMT
#2932
I bet all the other red hammers make fun of GMarshal for playing mafia with us uncool kids, and Barrin didn't want anyone to know he was giving it a try. Lol.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 18 2012 14:35 GMT
#2933
Okay. No clue about SC2Mafia... I was just surprised that a first-time player would figure your "trap" was a good idea (regardless of alignment). I'd like to hear your reasoning behind it. Is it common in SC2Mafia to do this kinda thing?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
May 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#2934
On May 18 2012 23:24 Mr. PotatoHead wrote:
If you ever play SC2 Mafia, I'm the guy you want on your team.


uh oh
The_Bard
Profile Joined November 2011
United States92 Posts
May 18 2012 15:13 GMT
#2935
Layabout and I have been discussing this topic for a while whether Mr. PotatoHead or Carolus is the blue knight. Here is my case against him, as I feel he is scum, but from a different angle.

On May 10 2012 09:23 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Also I shall claim day 1 since my role allows for that and I see no demerits on doing this. I shall do it to calm down the peasants and give them hope.
I'm a Hamburger Knight. I have 2 lives and can protect people taking a hit instead of them.
As you all know knights are of royal blood so it's only fitting that I'd be the god choosen ruler.


Syllo and sandroba are two of the most experienced players in the game. They recieved a veteran + medic role and the first thing they do is announce their powers publicly to the thread. Now answer me this, why would players who aren't complete newbies role claim a blue role that clearly should be hidden. At no point are they worried about opening themselves up to a role block. Could it be they know a role blocker does not exist? The point of the veteran role is to take a mafia hit by playing pro-town. By announcing to the thread that they are a veteran, it informs the scum team that they can be sniped with a double stack, rather than surviving a single kp. As for the medic side of the claim, how does town benefit on day one? Surely a medic from a town frame of mind wouldn't be so open? I believe the true intentions of this claim was to gain support for their emperor campaign, which they fell a few votes short with, even with scum support.

On May 10 2012 22:47 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Okay, acrofales is either mafia or intentionally suggesting wildly anti-town strategies. Elect us; it should be by now, or will be later, abundantly clear that we are town, and we won't be making such mistakes.


syllo and sandroba clearly wants to win the election and go to the point of discreditting their biggest threat, acrofales. Notice how he never follows through with the attack on acro after he has won the election.

The knight appears to be one of the scums most powerful role. It protects the scum players from the numerous assassins and the scum kp. We already know that MajuGarnett passed his knight power on through marriage, it makes sense that the blue knight would due the same thing. Additionally, Carolus has picked up the assassin power and has an additional kp we have to worry about tonight. Just take a look at the filter of the marriage choice:
quicksilver7
You can't argue to me that this is the player that they felt was most deserving of the knight title. All I see is gifs and spam, with few reasons to believe he is pro-town. Carolus explains that a player like him wouldn't agree to mason them, but who wouldn't if it met that they could become a knight. Where are the logs between carolus and QS7, is the duo too lazy to even create some fake ones? When do these two players even agree to a marriage? I don't see anywhere in the thread that the proposal is offered or accepted, which leads me to believe it was done in private.

On May 13 2012 08:04 Bill Murray wrote:
also carolus claimed KNIGHT
the person who flipped was a frankfurter KNIGHT
suspiciiiiooouusss


The Bill Murray hit had confused me considering a town vig never claimed the hit and I couldn't find a reason why the scum team would see a spammy player who had limited town cred as a threat. This post perfectly explains why carolus would shoot him, as it drew unecessary suspicion to their team leader.

Another thing I've noticed from his filter is that he is extremely accurate about hunting the red scum players, but when it comes to the blue team, he is more than willing to defend them. He marries QuickSilver7, willing to give up their knight power on death, he defends quatol, stating that he is trolling, but not necessarily mafia, and soft defends prplhz. Now lets take a look at how the other scum players approach Carolus Magnus.

On May 11 2012 19:38 prplhz wrote:
Carolus Magnus looks pretty town so do whatever the fuck he tells you to. I have no idea why he isn't Emperor but that's probably because scum boosted Acrofales or whatever.

I voted Carolus Magnus/Acrofales as I already said. Somebody had a spreadsheet and they should update that.


prplhz openly admits that Carolus and Acrofales are his two top candidates. In fact, he admitted to originally planning to vote for acro as emperor and carolus to empress. However, after the election, he is clearly upset things didn't go as plan and carolus didn't recieve emperor. Acro goes from his number two candidate to a candidate supports by mafia influence in a matter of moments. Quatol votes for Carolus, despite calling Acrofales town. QS7 also votes for Carolus, so at least 4 of the blue teams votes were on him for emperor.

Finally, look at how his interest in the game has declined once the town has gained the upper edge. Carolus prides themselves on setup analysis, yet speculates that prplhz is the blue knight. That would mean town would have THREE knights, which is completely unreasonable from a balance perspective. If he were truly a green knight, then he would be attacking Mr.PotatoeHead as the second lynch today.

Before I forget:

When logic and proportion
Have fallen SLOPPY dead
And the blue knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's LOST her head
Remember what the dormouse said

Feed your head
Feed your head
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 18 2012 15:42 GMT
#2936
While I am not a big fan of Carolus' play, I can't really let a case full of falsehoods slip by.

1. His marriage to QS7 is right there in their filters.
On May 10 2012 09:13 Carolus Magnus wrote:
Quicksilver7 I know who you are. Join me and we shall purge this lands of the unfaiteful.


On May 10 2012 09:14 QuickSilver7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 09:11 Carolus Magnus wrote:
The gods only allow those of royal blood to become kings. The translation to this is vote for me because I'm the greatest.
Matchew bow down to your king. I know you want to make a difference, but play time is over. Support me and I shall reward you, since I read that your intentions are noble.
Forumite I have your number. Keep doing what you are doing and you shall be the first to hang to please the peasants.

You seem like a decent chap, I'll marry you.

[image loading]

On May 10 2012 15:00 QuickSilver7 wrote:
Carolus I tried to marry you although idk if it worked.

So basically we're voting and waiting for the start of day 1 yes?


Of course, QS7 tried running interference later, but I'm not sure even Mattchew bought that one. It threw me off for a second, but it took all of 20 minutes for him to "change his mind" so yeah, that proposal was fake (either that, or Carolus and QS7 were not actually married, but needed to keep the excuse handy in case one of them expected to get shot).

2. The knights so far are BagManager (green) and Majuju (red). The only other claimed knight is Carolus. Of course, this is suspicious, but 2 veterans (and 1-shot medics) for town doesn't seem too overpowered. The main question is why we haven't found a power role in 3 blue lynches (and prplhz is another viscount). Either the two scumteams aren't (completely) balanced, or there's 6 to a team.

If there's 6 to a team, then the roles are 4 viscounts, 1 duke and 1 knight. That leaves town with 3 assassins (and a serious problem with regards to the NKs, because there's no way there was 8KP flying around both nights).
Carolus Magnus
Profile Joined April 2012
France172 Posts
May 18 2012 15:42 GMT
#2937
Sandroba claimed knight without consulting me because he believed it would be tough to get elected as a smurf. I wouldn't have approved. Kita you do realize that Mr. potato head is a knight because he inherited it from mattchew, who in turn got it from maju? There has been only one flipped town knight so far, and we are the other. But again, you too are wasting time since we have already presented a fool proof plan for verifying our alignment since apparently there are some confused players still.

Other than that, that was very weak kita. Why do people still pretend to know how people voted in the elections since it was a secret ballot and it's easy to claim to have voted in one way and actually voted the other? Do you really think we wouldn't have gotten elected if we had the blue team supporting us?

Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 18 2012 15:42 GMT
#2938
Bard can every post you do from now be like that
Seriously that was much better than every other post you sent with a bat
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 18 2012 15:53 GMT
#2939
Suffice to say, our royal highnesses are still in favour of lynching bluelightz to death. You want more reason than the 1000s in the thread already? His name has "blue" in it. That is an opportunity no Caller would pass up!
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 18 2012 15:54 GMT
#2940
people need to stop saying "soft defense" because that doesn't mean anything

i don't like how you're using all the townie things i said to make a case on me "proving that i am mafia" but i never expected that you would take townie things i said and use it to prove that someone else is mafia. hilarious.

so carolus said that acrofales did something anti-town. now the_bard says that that is discrediting acrofales. but that doesn't say anything about carolus' alignment. why is the_bard not looking into whether or not what carolus said was true or false? if carolus lied to discredit acrofales that would make him scummy. if carolus just told the truth then that would make him townie.

but the_bard doesn't care about this. he's just taking random posts and saying that "this could make sense from this hypothetical scum perspective i just invented so he's scum". hilarious. and scummy. lynch the_bard when i flip.

same thing was done in the analysis on me and acrofales and zelblade wont even discuss it because of a dt check. fact is that i never did anything scummy and that i am a prime target for frame since claimed dt was on my back.

"you did a lot of scummy things"

"no"

"right .... but you were afk day2!"

"i gave you my opinion and voted. townies are afk too."

"your responses are inadequate!"

lol gg
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
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