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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 17 2012 13:57 GMT
#2801
Too many mason chats hassy throws at me
also this 140 page thread is a sight to see
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 17 2012 14:00 GMT
#2802
fucking page topping post
oh well me and you acro post the most
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18005 Posts
May 17 2012 14:05 GMT
#2803
Updated spreadsheet with marriages.

Update for all loyal Hamburgers. There is now a moratorium on marriages. I will NOT allow anymore marriages in this empire. The chance of giving your roles to scum is too great. If you attempt to get married after this post, you will be lynched and or shot.

Once our empire is secured against the insurgent Schnitzels and Saussages I will declare a feast day on which we will marry, sing songs and roast frankfurters on a barbecue!
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 17 2012 14:08 GMT
#2804
On May 17 2012 21:46 Drazerk wrote:
Information can not harm us at this stage
A lack of information lets us all die to a mage

Yeah, I guess you are right. I also wouldn´t want to die without giving out the PMs.

The thread began in the innermost quote. The latest conversation was too big for one quote, so read from the innermost of the first one, then from the innermost of the second one. 95% is there, some PM-threads that were discontinued are missing.

The beginning and my claim: + Show Spoiler +
I agree, BL was the only alternative to two scummy lynches, that makes him basically confirmed town, at least until scum of a second scumteam flips.

Right now I´m most suspicious of hardcore lurkers and those just a step above them. I wouldn´t mind using my dayvigi on one of them right now. I´m prepared to give V7 a pass for today provided he catches up in the thread or gets modkilled, but there are so many others that need to play or die. This is my current "DIE LURKER"-list.

Laika
Companion Cube
Adam4167
NisanI/DOG
Bard
Itouchyou
Quatol
Erandor
BagManager

Jitsu and zelblade would be here but they are only scummy, they aren´t lurking.

With two scummy lurkers flipping scum, I wouldn´t be surprised if more hide among them. I think using my dayvigi on one of them is a good idea. If scum hide there then perhaps I can steal their power so it doesn´t go to their scum-spouse, because I expect there to be a few secret scumweddings. I could save it, but I would like a real power, and clean up lurkers while at it.

Original Message From strongandbig:
Show nested quote +
Original Message From Forumite:
I just got a PM saying we´re married, and therefore masoned.

I´m a Bastard just like Kurumi. It´s basically a powerstealing role, I can kill someone during any day and get their role and all powers, at which time I lose the Bastard role (exception is that I can´t steal Emperor or Empress), but until I do I´m an illegitimate child and can´t inherit from my spouse, nor can you inherit my Bastard Role. Caller informed me that I can still become the Emperor.

What this means is that I have a 1-shot daykill power that should be strong enough to punch through any number of extra lives. I´d like to use it soon in order to get another power, but it might be a good idea to wait. Matt thinks BL or Jitsu. What do you think?



Well, at least there shouldn't be any problem with claiming. If it really comes down to you as the lynch target, you can basically confirm your role at least, although that doesn't necessarily confirm your alignment.

I am a bit surprised that there were only two kills by the mafia last night, if town had atlas's power plus two dayvigs plus whoever killed sinani. Maybe the idea is that mafia will get powers through marriages, so they get stronger as the game goes on? Or maybe it's just caller.

I don't think bluelightz would be a good target, unless you're pretty convinced of there being two scum teams. He voted for maju really early; and since we know now that sinani was scum, it seems like the people who pushed the bluelightz lynch are more likely to be scum than people who voted for either sinani or maju.



I think it was too bad that not more people talked with Acro about sparing ATLAS and provide an alternative lynch, but I think there were enough going on at the time to not blame Acro for it, like ATLAS resistance to my plan to kill by our wishes, the short time left, and the fact that he used the words "Serial Killer". Acro is still town to me.

Original Message From strongandbig:
I'm not sure about jitsu, he's been pretty inconsistent. He was on my scummy list for a while, but now I'm unsure. I would kill him before BL though.

We also still have a bunch of sketchy inactives. Specifically, maybe look at Adam - ace qs7 was right about maju, and Adam was one of the bluelightz voters.

What do you think about acro's decision to lynch atlas?


Me talking about who to shoot+ Show Spoiler +
Scummy lurking townie...

Adam was a Duke, so +3 votes. The hosts have confirmed that my total number of votes is 3 right now, so there is no default number of votes.

Original Message From strongandbig:
No objections to shooting Adam, go for it.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Forumite:
It seems all the active lurkers are back, and none of them are going out with a modkill. I really don´t like how Bard came back. I´d like to kill Jitsu because he´s next in line for the throne after me, but if Adam is Acros first pick for the auto-lynch, then shooting Adam now gives us something to work with, and frees up Acros lynch for someone else.

Waiting will just reduce the time we have to talk about the lynch. Jitsu said he doesn´t have time and we might be able to pressure him some more, Adam is just trolling. I´ll shoot Adam, because he´s still just as scummy as before. Any last objections or should I send in the kill?

Original Message From strongandbig:
Meh, I guess jitsu. He's looking pretty scummy, the whole retarded zelblade case is all he's been talking about and it looks like scum tunneling someone for no reason.

Original Message From Forumite:
Personal preference, shoot Jitsu or Adam?


S&B claiming: + Show Spoiler +
Original Message From strongandbig:
It just feels pretty likely that I'll die tonight, and it's pretty much entirely acro's fault. However, I can't be open about that with town until after the night action deadline.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Forumite:
They are active and open, they just don´t feel scum to me. Matt, I don´t know, but Acro acting like a town emperor is at least not a scumtell.

Isn´t there a better way to check what they are than killing one of them?

How about asking for a check on them?

Original Message From strongandbig:
Why do you think Matt is town? His only read has been him tunneling bluelightz as far as I can tell, and mostly he's jus spammed up the thread, he hasnt done anything that's actually helped town.

What would a scum emperor have done different from what acrofales has done?

Why would a scum team have bothered shooting bill Murray if the emperor was torn? Sure he claimed DT, but no one believed him; pretty much any town having his role would be worse. Especially since his role was not an alignment cop, only a role+marriage cop.

Original Message From Forumite:
I don´t really like Matts playstyle, but I´ve had a townread on him for a long, long time. Acro also reads town to me. Yes, he did kind of out a few of the blues, but not all, some had allready gotten votepower before this, and even if scum knows who to shoot, the roles won´t disappear, they are either inherited or redistributed. There is the possibility either are scum, especially with two scumteams, it´s easy to fake scumhunting if you ARE scumhunting, but I feel it´s a VERY risky shot.

Also I don´t really want to be Emperor yet.

I think you should take out Quatol, then we can discuss lynching Matt or Acro tomorrow, but killing the leaders of town should be a town decision.

Original Message From strongandbig:
Ughhhhhhhh, two scum teams really fucks with my analysis.

I'm probably going to shoot one of the following:
- jitsu
- mattchew
- quatol
- acrofales

I dont really want to kill quatol tho, I think if he was scum he wouldn't have missed the voting deadline on day 1.

Between the kill on atlas and the retarded plan forcing blue claims, I think acro is either scum or too dumb to live.

Original Message From Forumite:
Town-vigi, good to hear. Great shot on sinani.

Tell them you don´t have a title and the role-PM didn´t say anything about votes.
It seems like there are several roles without votes so even if scum target them, you should be able to hide in the masses, and role is not lost if you die, either I get it or if I die, then Acro chooses someone else to get your power. I doubt scum will kill both of us and Acro in the same night, and you don´t look like a primary scumtarget.

As for you claiming, I see no need unless you become a primary lynch target, but I aim to prevent that.
Do you think I should claim the Adam-kill? That will explain where the vote-power went, and I don´t want to lie to town, especially as I allready claimed 0 votes earlier.

Original Message From strongandbig:
Hey bro. I really hope you're town. I think you probably are BC I think killing adam was a townie thing to do since it freed up one of the lynches, as well as because of your previous actions, but im not as sure as I would have been if he'd flipped scum. Anyway, thats why I haven't claimed here yet, but I really don't know what to do ATM, so I'm gonna claim now and ask for advice.
I'm a hamburger assassin. Infinite bullet vigilante. Last night I killed sinani.

So I'm not sure what to say to the demands to claim my number of votes; if I say "zero" then I'm basically claiming to be an unspecified blue and making myself a scum target, but if I say "one" then I'm lying and might get caught and lynched or vigged.

Do what you think is best for town with my role info but I'd prefer to wait as long as possible before making it public so I can keep killing scum.

S&B claiming continued: + Show Spoiler +
Drazerk was allready checked, he´s the Fool, whatever that means.

Kurumi was probably the only town Bastard, I doubt there are more of them.

Agreed, we´ll claim if it becomes a problem, I don´t think he can argue when you have two scumkills to your name.
Original Message From strongandbig:
Well, if he starts pushing me really hard I can just claim.

Town still doesn't know that bastard is a dayvig instead of a pgo since caller won't give them the role pm, so when I claim the sinani kill it should be credible if you let them know your role name was bastard.

Actually - if Drazerk is the bastard then town has a dayvig it hasnt used yet. Maybe let them know that and then we could kill off prp today and actually have a meaningful vote.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Forumite:
Odd, maybe, I don´t know. Maybe there´s a third vigi or something, or there is an Anarchist vigi. Could explain the Matts death.

I don´t like Carolus last post.

Original Message From strongandbig:
I got a message from Caller, apparently I was too late to change targets (even though I did it at like 5:40 eastern lol) so I still shot mattchew. Maybe qs7 shot jitsu?

Original Message From Forumite:
Yeah, but now it seems it´s actually helping us find scum, dukes are suspicious now that the blue team is missing a duke.

Original Message From strongandbig:
The fact that I'm still alive makes me feel much less like the vote number plan was an elaborate blue fishing scheme.

Still think it was retarded though.

Original Message From Forumite:
Town-vigi shot Quatol, You shot Jitsu, Reds shot QS7, Blues shot Matt?
lol

Original Message From strongandbig:
Also, I shot jitsu, I changed it after I remembered Matt had an extra life.

Original Message From Forumite:
True.

There are so many semi-scummy players, but the hardcore lurkers are dead, apart from Quatol at least. What about Jitsu?

I don´t like how the succession order looks.
Acro
Forumite
Jitsu
Mattchew
OpZ
U
YES_THIS_IS_DOG
The_Bard

Acro, Matt and I are the only ones out of the next 8 Emperors that I think are town, or at least helping.

Original Message From strongandbig:
Quatol will most likely die to the other vig tonight. If he doesn't then thread can deal with that tomorrow.

Original Message From Forumite:
You mean about the voteclaiming?

Why would they shoot you when I´ll just inherit your role? They can´t really shoot us both, can they?

The thing I have against Quatol is that him dying is almost always pro-town, since the chance of him getting active is slim, shooting either of our town leaders is only good if they are scum, otherwise it could just as well have been scum shooting them.

:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 17 2012 14:14 GMT
#2805
Acro we must speak when the wife gets back
Without her communication is something we lack
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18005 Posts
May 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#2806
We will talk tonight. I am going afk for a while.
The_Bard
Profile Joined November 2011
United States92 Posts
May 17 2012 14:34 GMT
#2807
On May 13 2012 07:23 Toadesstern wrote:
A.T.L.A.S. the Hamburger Assassin were barbecued.



On May 17 2012 20:39 strongandbig wrote:
In case anyone didn't figure it out yesterday when your retarded vote claim plan forced me to claim "unspecified PR":

I am a Hamburger assassin.


Lyncher + Lynch + 3x Detective + 2x Medic/Vet + 2x Compulsive Vigilante (lol) + Unclaimed roles
= 4 daily kp + 3 information + 2 buffed medic + unclaimed

Open your eyes I see
Your eyes are open
Wear no disguise for me
Come into the open

When it’s cold outside
Am I here in vain?
Hold on to the night
There will be no shame

Always, I wanna be with you
And make believe with you
And live in harmony,
harmony oh love



On May 17 2012 20:39 strongandbig wrote:
In case anyone didn't figure it out yesterday when your retarded vote claim plan forced me to claim "unspecified PR":

I am a Wiener-Schnitzel assassin.


Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 17 2012 14:39 GMT
#2808
Bard, what´s your point? We haven´t seen a scum-vigi yet, so why would S&B be scum?
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 17 2012 14:42 GMT
#2809
QS7 was a scum vigi
although the bard is a big hippie
The_Bard
Profile Joined November 2011
United States92 Posts
May 17 2012 14:43 GMT
#2810
In the days of Kings and Queens, I was a jester, they treat me like a god, or treat me like a leopard
You see me move back and forth between both
I'm trying to find a balance, I'm trying to build a balance
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 17 2012 14:45 GMT
#2811
On May 17 2012 23:42 Drazerk wrote:
QS7 was a scum vigi
although the bard is a big hippie

No, QS7 was a scum who was given a vigi-power by Kaiser Acro, originally he had a voting role.
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 17 2012 14:46 GMT
#2812
I count that as a scum vigi
seriously what else rhymes with vigi other than hippie
The_Bard
Profile Joined November 2011
United States92 Posts
May 17 2012 14:48 GMT
#2813
Over the course, something like life-endorsed
I've entered the mother ship, terminated the Denver airport
Too many guns in the air, you're about to be prepared for
You've heard us speak, attention should be second nature
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 17 2012 14:48 GMT
#2814
On May 17 2012 23:46 Drazerk wrote:
I count that as a scum vigi
seriously what else rhymes with vigi other than hippie

Fine, but we haven´t so far seen a scum start with a vigi-power. S&B had his from the start, he didn´t inherit it from someone.
:3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 17 2012 14:52 GMT
#2815
did the bard just claim scum?
someone pass me a gun
The_Bard
Profile Joined November 2011
United States92 Posts
May 17 2012 14:54 GMT
#2816
Day after day, alone on the hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still.
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool.
And he never gives an answer .....

But the fool on the hill,
Sees the sun going down.
And the eyes in his head,
See the world spinning around.

strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 17 2012 14:57 GMT
#2817
I don't think I'm compulsive.

I just like shooting people.

Now, let me explain why shooting sinani was townie as fuck: after the maju lynch flipped red scum, the thread was 100% ready to start lynching into sinani voters, since it looked like a really scummy alternative lynch bandwagon. I actually only thought there was a 50-60% chance sinani would flip scum, but I wanted his flip to become public so we could know whether to start lynching into sinani voters, probably starting with acrofales given that he'd just lynched a town vigi.

Look at who the sinani voters were - Almost all town, with one of each scum. If I'm blue with qs7, then we've set ourselves up for several days of free lynches, assuming we can keep sinani alive. Why ruin that? To save Purplehaze? Lol.

Also, it just doesn't make sense to have a scum vig and team shared kp - and especially not only on one team. Unless you think there's also a red vig out there. A scum vig would never marry a townie, anyway - why give up a free kp?

Overall no I haven't been breadcrumbing my kills, except in PMs with Forumite where we discussed the mattchew shot extensively. The longer I could keep scum thinking sinani died to kurumi and that bastard was a PGO role, the longer they would be in the dark that my extra town kp even existed.

Finally: the bard just posted a bunch of role names in plaintext. I take that as indicating his posting restriction is fake.

The bard, if you still think im blue scum, please explain in plain text why I would have shot sinani.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 17 2012 15:03 GMT
#2818
Bard I have no idea what your talking about we know the restriction is fake now
ask again clearly and I will take a bow
The_Bard
Profile Joined November 2011
United States92 Posts
May 17 2012 15:10 GMT
#2819
On May 17 2012 23:57 strongandbig wrote:
I don't think I'm compulsive.


On May 10 2012 05:03 Caller wrote:
ALL PMS should be out.


Butterfly in the sky
I can go twice as high
Take a look
It's in a book
A Reading Rainbow


On May 17 2012 23:57 strongandbig wrote:
The bard, if you still think im blue scum, please explain in plain text why I would have shot sinani.


On May 14 2012 07:51 blubbdavid wrote:
Sinani206, the Frankfurter Viscount von Detta


Ebony And Ivory Live Together In Perfect Harmony


On May 17 2012 23:57 strongandbig wrote:
A scum vig would never marry a townie, anyway - why give up a free kp?


strong keeps on scum slippin', slippin', slippin'
Into the future

I want to fly like an eagle
To the sea
Fly like an eagle
Let my spirit carry me
I want to fly like an eagle
Till I'm free
Oh, Lord, through the revolution
Mr. PotatoHead
Profile Joined April 2012
112 Posts
May 17 2012 15:10 GMT
#2820
me so powerful now :>

I now have six votes, if you wanna right that down somewhere.

Hassy - Town
Acrofales - Town
Forumite - Scum

Everyone else - ????

I do look a little Blue-scum at this point. Hmm.

With my 6 votes I can overpower quite a lot... perhaps you could have me and a viscount/count vote for someone we're pretty sure is Blue Scum (or red scum w/e), both to prove my 6 votes and to prove im against scum.

I will let you guys decide who I should vote for, and I wont have any say in it so it's not possible for me to lead you away from my team (if i was scum). Acrofales will have the final say in who I vote for (by all means try to convince him); if you think Acrofales is scum and want to appeal I need like 2-3 people to oppose.
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