You seem to be confusing reserved play as defensive play.
Since we have started i have maintained an outlook preferring to take in the whole picture and analyse play before making any judgment. I think my play is an asset to the town as it can be easy to slip into the habit of following the play in real time and perhaps missing key points. I classify this as a more reserved style than defensive.
To justify my position on a delayed vote switch to Veriat: since the beginning i have been pro-D1-lynch, it has been established that it is important in uncovering motives and gets the ball rolling in regards to seeing allegiances within the group. I did quite a bit of analysis on the players Nreekay324 and AcesAnoka finding them to be scummy, with my reserved playstyle i found that changing to a last minute change to Veriat was something i had to consider. I had to weigh up the benefits of the D1-lynch, and the groundwork that i had done on the previous two players.
Well we got a mafia with our first lynch, that's perfect! We all have some re-reading of Day 1 to do.
I welcome you coming after me WhySoMuch i have nothing to hide.
I was kind of disillusioned with this game since it's finals week but lol I guess I picked a winner. Night time is generally not a great time to post. Let the blue players do what they want and don't give mafia any hints on who they should kill.
On April 29 2012 07:07 O.Golden_ne wrote: @WhySoMuch.
You seem to be confusing reserved play as defensive play.
Since we have started i have maintained an outlook preferring to take in the whole picture and analyse play before making any judgment. I think my play is an asset to the town as it can be easy to slip into the habit of following the play in real time and perhaps missing key points. I classify this as a more reserved style than defensive.
To justify my position on a delayed vote switch to Veriat: since the beginning i have been pro-D1-lynch, it has been established that it is important in uncovering motives and gets the ball rolling in regards to seeing allegiances within the group. I did quite a bit of analysis on the players Nreekay324 and AcesAnoka finding them to be scummy, with my reserved playstyle i found that changing to a last minute change to Veriat was something i had to consider. I had to weigh up the benefits of the D1-lynch, and the groundwork that i had done on the previous two players.
Well we got a mafia with our first lynch, that's perfect! We all have some re-reading of Day 1 to do.
I welcome you coming after me WhySoMuch i have nothing to hide.
Golden
I don't know where your getting the terms "reserved" and "defensive" from. I never called your play either of those things.
I don't understand what your trying to say in your middle paragraph either. But you said you would be "Happy if Veriat was lynched" yet you did not vote him until it was clear that Aces was not going to be lynched and only then did you grudgingly move to Veriat saying "If I have to move I will".
These two actions, saying you're happy to lynch him and then showing hesitance and displeasure to vote him, don't add up. You can't have one with the other.
I think I'm going to get all my thoughts out there during this night period because I believe I am a likely target for tonight's kill. Hence my posting. The Mafia isn't stupid and they know who they should kill, posting isn't really gonna give them any clues on who to kill. Obviously you could also try to level with them if you are not a power role to draw the kill as well.
If you choose not to post I don't think it's a bad thing, but I think we can use tonight to get a jump on tomorrow
On April 28 2012 18:26 Veriat wrote: Ok here are my thoughts on who are the scum:
The_Zen_Man nreekay324 Jailbreaker
The_Zen_Man You're stance on the "lynch no lynch" discussion has left me a little puzzled, and your overall playstyle seem fishy to me, so you're getting my vote.
nreekay324 All your posts just seem off and scummy. Many of them seem rushed or flawed, and you basically just jumped the bandwagon with your early vote on Why_So_Much. On a side note i did find Why_So_Much's playstyle kind of off, but i don't think he's scum, because then why would you vote for him?
Jailbreaker You've my number 3 due to consistent flaws in your previous posts.
Just gonna do some spew analysis first. This is about the only post of use that he wrote.
The_Zen_Man is pretty much clear forever, he made a case on Veriat when he could have chosen a lot of other people and Veriat then goes and makes him his #1 wolf read and later makes a case on him. You just don't see this being mafia/mafia with newer mafia
nreekay I think is also spewed cleared here as well i think. If your gonna put a mafia in your mafia reads, it's not gonna be like this with qualifiers and extra useless info in my opinion.
However JailBreaker, this is exactly how a newer mafia would do it, he just throws his name out there with some lame, non existent reasoning. I am moving Jailbreaker to the mafia side for this alone.
I was just away from my computer and I'm not sure if im delirious from these strange hours I've been keeping but I've had a thought and rushed back to check the thread. Please hear me out, I know it's night and it makes it a very dangerous time to be posting something like this for fear of getting shot but i really want to put it out there regardless. Here goes.
So AcesAnoka wasn't modkilled, perhaps this is because it would have led to TWO mafia being killed in the first day which is almost unheard of.
Leaves me open to a snipe tonight but I will be asking everyone for their support In a lynch of AcesAnoka in day 2.
I thought the odds of Veriat being mafia were at about 15% (just personal conjecture), but the lurking.... Anyways, I'll be playing some Deus Ex, gl all, hope to see you all in the morning
Wow, such a nice day-1 kill! I wasn't at home last night but I followed the drama from my phone : P
I think this would somewhat clear AcecAnoka from being mafia more or less, no? Mafia could've easily tried to spread the votes among him and Veriat to avoid lynching Verait.
I wont put too much words on it. I went to a wedding yesterday and only came home at 2AM today. I'm really sorry that I couldn't be there to vote and analyse the thread in the past day, and by some that made me suspicious and I cant blame them; because I didn't post at all in that time span.
Sorry for not being there guys and thanks for giving me another chance.
EDIT: Just read through the whole thread and from what i've seen Veriat looked very suspicious, if I were there my vote would've gone to him too. I already thought it was strange that he was lurking so hard and his reasoning behind his voting was not much.
nreekay324 - His filter reads suspicious to me. I see a vote for WhySoMuch, follwed by an unbolded unvote. He then leaves it at that. He makes no comment against the most suspicious person in the game so far, who was proven to be mafia. So he votes for WhySoMuch, and has FoS against Golden, Me, Yomi and The_Zen_Man (incidently all of which voted for Veriat). Very suspicious.
Jailbreaker - I've had an off read on him from the beginning. There isn't a lot there to analyse. However he does come in a few hours before the lynch deadline and posts in a sort of defense against AcesAnoka, saying we don't have enough info to point fingers at him. How does he feel about Veriat? Other than pointing him out in a post about Lurkers (which includes 6 others), he doesn't seem to have any scum read on him other than pointing out one of his posts sounds like a regurgitation on Golden's posts.
Other notes:
AcesAnoka - not sure about him, but do note that he doesn't have an opinion on Veriat until after he's flipped mafia. I get a novice townie feel here, but it is suspicious that he doesn't mention Veriat. Worth keeping an eye on.
WhySoMuch - flipped around a lot prior to the voting deadline. I don't like seeing this though in this instance not sure it means anything. If he was scum I don't think he'd state he was certain I was town, but then I didn't think Veriat would say he looked scummy before flipping mafia.
For what it's worth, Lazermonkey never had any posted suspicions on Veriat. Not saying this means anything, just noting for the record.
After celebrating the death of the simulant Veriat during the night, the lads of Red Dwarf decided to celebrate it with a game of guess the fruit. Despite his best attempts at guessing which fruit it was, Yomi could never quite get it right despite it being in plain sight, probably due to the large amount of alcohol he consumed that day. As he went for an early night, he noticed a knock on his door. After opening it, he noticed it was his old friend [name deleted]. [name deleted] asked if Yomi was interested in a game of Truth or Dare, and Yomi indicated that he preferred playing this game with women, but he'll make an exception for his trusty friend.
After choosing Truth, his old friend asked him if he was alive. "Of course! What kind of weird question is thAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH" Yomi screamed after an iron wrench pierced his chest. The rest of the crew was woken up by the scream and quickly went to Yomi's quarters, but only found a dead body and no trace of the murderer. They then realized that they had only killed one simulant, but there were more on board. The crew alerted Holly, the ship's AI, whom decided the best course of action was to go back to sleep and decide in the morning what to do next, and informed the crew it could always be worse. At least the murderer didn't run a tape of Rebecca Black through the ship. Yomi the Village Townie has been murdered! It is now Day! You have 48 hours to vote. Failure to vote from here on out will end up in a modkill, no more leniency. Remember that coaching is available from our three coaches, Adam4167, Mementoss and prplhz.
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