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Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
April 28 2012 17:26 GMT
#221
I'd just like to add that we don't need 7/9 townies if we vote to lynch a townie. There should be 2 people, in addition to the person we vote for, that simply will not agree to vote for one of their own. Hopefully our analysis has been good enough that at least some of the people who have 2 or 3 votes are scum. That being said, our strategy should be to have everyone post the people they'd be willing to vote for. This will force the mafia to either risk voting for their own or they will reveal themselves (the circle of people who won't vote for each other will be the mafia). Personally, I'll vote for anyone who is close to a majority, or one of the triangle who won't vote for each other. Come on guys, we are running out of time and we need to start working together to make a lynch. Its crunch time guys, and we need teamwork to beat the mafia.
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Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
April 28 2012 17:56 GMT
#222
Guys, we have 4 hours. We need to get going. the closest we have is 4 now.

## unvote
## vote: AcesAnoka
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 18:54 GMT
#223
@Mordanis - why did you switch your vote to AcesAnoka?
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
WhySoMuch
Profile Joined April 2012
132 Posts
April 28 2012 18:56 GMT
#224
On April 28 2012 18:29 Pure-SC2 wrote:
I'm getting an off read on WhySoMuch, I don't really understand it so just going to post my thoughts in case someone else can make something out of it.

So we're playing a newbie game here, for people who've played 3 or less games. yet here he is so ingrained in his Wolves/Villages thing that he can't even proof read his posts to change it to reflect the fact we're playing Mafia here, on the TL mafia forums, in which everyone else is referencing mafia/scum and townies? How many games do you have to have played to get it that ingrained in your head? And after its been mentioned by a few people, why wouldn't he make any effort to do something about it?

Yet his posts seem well thought out and carefully worded.

He goes on and asks the most basic fundamental questions that can be answered by using the tiniest bit of logical thought (how to quote posts and view more posts on a page), which doesn't line up with the fact that his posts seem to be well thought out and logical.

I don't trust him. It's like he's playing this naive, simpleton role here so that he won't come under suspicion.


It's the same game, Y'all call it Mafia, We call it Werewolf. It's the same principal and I'm really confused why people are so caught up on it. This is newb game for people that have played 3 or less games ON THIS SITE. That is why I signed up for it, to get a feel for THIS SITE. So many things are different, such as requiring a Majority to lynch someone, that I think it was best to play a game like this before trying out the non-newb games. I have played over 100 games on the other forum using wolve/villager lingo, so to answer your question about 100 games to get it ingrained.

I am making an effort, every time you see the word Mafia or Town most likely I had to go back and erase wolf/villager. However sometimes I forget.

I didn't ask how to quote posts, I asked how to quote multiple posts, because on the other site, I can click a button and it will multi-quote for me. THis forum did not have it, and I was wondering what people usually do instead. As for the "All" button I probably should have figured that out, but again, on the other forum there is an option to change posts per page from 25 to 100.

On April 28 2012 18:52 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Yes, but on the other hand, that might be the point. Veriat might have written that so that people would stop suspecting him. But this is all theories. He was lurking for quite a while, and when people start suspecting him he suddenly shows up with some accusations. I find that very suspicious. For these reason, im going to vote for him.

##vote: Veriat

Also Veriat, as Pure-SC2 said, please tell me what about me is "fishy".

Whysomuch, could you give me a explanation to your vote?


I have explained my vote a gazillion times already. Just because I vote you again doesn't mean I have to have different reasons than before.

I am confused though, because Veriant looks extremely bad right now. Like all his reads are justs sponges and he has no original thought, so I'm pretty sure he's a wolf. Which means you likely aren't a wolf.

##vote: Veriat
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:00 GMT
#225
It does seem like an easy bandwagon forming on AcecAnoka which Lazer and Mordanis have jumped on without stating any reasoning other than lurking. So is this a lurker lynch then or do you think he's scum?

O.Golden_ne posted a good case against him which seems to have some merit, as has Splinter[eP].

That takes the count up to 4 on AcecAnoka I believe.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
WhySoMuch
Profile Joined April 2012
132 Posts
April 28 2012 19:00 GMT
#226
Actually, this is weird. All my townies are voting for the competing person I'm voting for

##vote: AcesAnoka
WhySoMuch
Profile Joined April 2012
132 Posts
April 28 2012 19:03 GMT
#227
On April 29 2012 04:00 Pure-SC2 wrote:
It does seem like an easy bandwagon forming on AcecAnoka which Lazer and Mordanis have jumped on without stating any reasoning other than lurking. So is this a lurker lynch then or do you think he's scum?

O.Golden_ne posted a good case against him which seems to have some merit, as has Splinter[eP].

That takes the count up to 4 on AcecAnoka I believe.


I was actually going to say the same thing, but the people on Aces seem more villagey then the people on veriat.

I think I like a veriat lynch better than an aces lynch tbh though.

Golden, Mordanis, Lazer: Would you be willing to switch to Veriat? The_Zen has posted his case, and also if you go back and read his posts on your own, what do you think?
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:07 GMT
#228
So it seems the majority votes forming on Veriat and AcecAnoka.

Who actually has a solid scum read on either of them?

2 people have made reasonable cases against AcecAnoka after which he's been bandwagoned up to 4 votes.

On Veriant, The_Zen_Man has made a reasonable case against him while yomi's on him for lurking. Our werewolf loving friend has now bandwagoned on here with no reasoning other than "because Veriant looks extremely bad right now" taking it up to 3.

So the questions are, who looks scumier, AcecAnoka or Veriant? And if the answer is neither, or not conclusive, then who is pushing for their lynches and why?
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Jailbreaker
Profile Joined October 2010
United States62 Posts
April 28 2012 19:09 GMT
#229
nonononononono water you guys doin? you planet all wrong.

Can't you see that other players are trying to rush people into a decision so fast??
Just because we dun have a majority vote, doesn't mean we should rush.
Even though I voted for Yomi so fast in the game, i didn't rush. Just like what golden says, stay clam and dont panic.
I know its fail logic right here, no apollo-gies here on my part.

Mordanis says:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hopefully our analysis has been good enough that at least some of the people who have 2 or 3 votes are scum. That being said, our strategy should be to have everyone post the people they'd be willing to vote for. This will force the mafia to either risk voting for their own or they will reveal themselves (the circle of people who won't vote for each other will be the mafia). Personally, I'll vote for anyone who is close to a majority, or one of the triangle who won't vote for each other. Come on guys, we are running out of time and we need to start working together to make a lynch. Its crunch time guys, and we need teamwork to beat the mafia.

and

+ Show Spoiler +
Guys, we have 4 hours. We need to get going. the closest we have is 4 now.


Sounds a bit to me like a rushing/get-on-the-band-wagon

On April 29 2012 00:25 Lazermonkey wrote:
Noone is posting atm really. AcecAnoka havn't been posting in about a day, which could very well be due to IRL stuffs. But he is still my prime suspect.

##Vote: AcecAnoka

This vote may very well change tho, depending on the events in the evening!

Why are you voting for him? plz give a real reason.

I also feel like O.Golden_ne has the most influence over the votes with your "in depth analysis" and a galactic wall of texts.

On April 28 2012 18:26 Veriat wrote:
Ok here are my thoughts on who are the scum:

The_Zen_Man
nreekay324
Jailbreaker


The_Zen_Man You're stance on the "lynch no lynch" discussion has left me a little puzzled, and your overall playstyle seem fishy to me, so you're getting my vote.

nreekay324 All your posts just seem off and scummy. Many of them seem rushed or flawed, and you basically just jumped the bandwagon with your early vote on Why_So_Much. On a side note i did find Why_So_Much's playstyle kind of off, but i don't think he's scum, because then why would you vote for him?

Jailbreaker You've my number 3 due to consistent flaws in your previous posts.

Sounds more like regurgitation of O.Golden_ne's posts.

From what AcecAnoka has posted, I feel like we dont have enough info to point fingers at him. get off the bandwagon and look at other players posts just in general

Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:12 GMT
#230
As I typed that, the werewolf bandwagon switched from Veriant to AcecAnoka, taked Veriant down to 2 and AcecAnoka up to 5.

WhySoMuch seems to like the bandwagon based of who's voting for AcecAnoka, not because he think's he's scum. Hmm.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 19:12:59
April 28 2012 19:12 GMT
#231
Guys, if you are switching votes, ##Unvote first
Otherwise, your first vote will be the one counted
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WhySoMuch
Profile Joined April 2012
132 Posts
April 28 2012 19:14 GMT
#232
Yeah, the more I think about it, I don't like a Aces vote because:

1) He is showing a thought process, albeit a misguided one, It's there and it's hard for new wolves to show a thought process

2) Overall tone of his posts, I didn't get the feeling that he was being overly defensive when people were calling him scummy, and he didn't lash out back at them calling them a mafia. Which I think is pretty townie of him to do

On the other hand I do have a mafia read on Veriat, he looks really bad right now.



##vote:Veriat
WhySoMuch
Profile Joined April 2012
132 Posts
April 28 2012 19:14 GMT
#233
woops, sorry

##Unvote

##vote: Veriat
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 28 2012 19:15 GMT
#234
On April 29 2012 04:14 WhySoMuch wrote:
woops, sorry

##Unvote

##vote: Veriat

Success!
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:16 GMT
#235
Artanis - I think the vote count was wrong. AcesAnoka unvoted Yomi and hasn't made a subsequent vote.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
April 28 2012 19:17 GMT
#236
@PureSC2
I think we need to lynch someone today, and by changing my vote I was able to put one player at 4 votes. Quite frankly, I don't like our chances if we let the mafia score a hit before we do. Originally, I thought we had much less time to analyze and talk, and I considered that a random lynch would be more harmful than no lynch. However, both veriat and Aces are both fairly low in post number and actual content. Simply put, they are not helping our cause. If we can work together as a town, we have a good shot at winning. If, however, we have people who disappear for 24 hours at a time, its going to be very difficult to survive.

Also, your lack of voting is making any organization very difficult. IDK if its a scummy thing or if you're just trying to apply the "non-bandwagon" principle from earlier, but we need to work together. If you are against a lynch, tell us why. Otherwise, you basically have to vote for Veriat or Aces. Frankly, they are both not helping much, so I'll vote for either.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:18 GMT
#237
In the space of 20 minutes, WhySoMuch has flipped votes 3 times. I'm getting more and more suspicious of this guy.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:20 GMT
#238
I want to make sure I'm voting for a lynch on someone I believe is scum, or that there is a reason I believe is good enough. I'm not going to bandwagon onto a vote because thats what other people are doing, I'm going to do it for my own reasons.

There is still plenty of time left to vote and I'm busy looking at who's doing what and trying to understand why. Suggest you do the same.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:23 GMT
#239
@Mordanis - if we lynch a townie, we score a hit for the mafia before they even have to make one themselves. Think about that for a moment.

Why are you voting for AcesAnoka?
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 19:35:10
April 28 2012 19:34 GMT
#240
On April 29 2012 04:16 Pure-SC2 wrote:
Artanis - I think the vote count was wrong. AcesAnoka unvoted Yomi and hasn't made a subsequent vote.

Artanis is currently at a concert, unable to fix that now. I'll give another vote count soon.
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