EPTSurprisingly Normal Mini Mafia XI - Page 11
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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
##vote: Veriat Also Veriat, as Pure-SC2 said, please tell me what about me is "fishy". Whysomuch, could you give me a explanation to your vote? | ||
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
@The_Zen_Man - we wanted Veriat to post more, why when he does is that in itself suspicious? | ||
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
##Vote: Veriat | ||
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
On April 28 2012 19:14 The_Zen_Man wrote: ##Vote: Veriat Success! | ||
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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
If you genuinely think he is suspicious, give your vote some substance by explaining exactly why you are convinced he is scum and should be lynched tonight. "several other players have raised concerns" is just a useless bandwagony reason and doesn't cut it for me. He needs to do the same thing with his case against you. Just because he hasn't doesn't mean you can get away with doing the same thing to him. | ||
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
On April 26 2012 22:55 Veriat wrote: Hello Everybody! I love the theme and i'm very excited to get this show on the road! Like many here this is my first game so i'm looking forward to a good time with you fine lads (and lasses) As Pure-SC2 said, i share his opinion on the "no lynch" vote since this is a game full of newbies like myself, and there isn't all that information up in the air the first day, which we can use to base good lynches on. With that said, Game on and let's get the discussion going!  Veriat posted this about 5 minutes after my post, and it was also very similliar to mine. This seemed like he was bandwagoning on this idea, maybe choosing the idea which seemed at time like many people supported? On April 26 2012 23:55 Veriat wrote: You make a good point Golden, lynching luckers would be a good alternative. We might also want to keep an eye out for people who make contentless posts, and as you said act "scummy" Not long after that, when O.Golden_ne voiced his opinions on the matter, he changed his opinion rather quick, maybe not wanting to take a real stand in the matter, as this would put him in the spotlight. On April 27 2012 03:10 Veriat wrote: I noticed the same yomi, they are currently lurking. And back to the "lynch, no lynch" topic, yomi you make a good point is your previous 2 post. we can't just lynch for the sake of lynching, it needs to benefit the town. And just lynching a townie and not learning anything is just a waste. so personally i'd say lynch if suspicion be, and if not? i see no point in random lynching. His desire to be neutral is developed, as he change his opinion again. First he was for lynching lurkers, but now he only wants to lynch those who seem suspicious. On April 28 2012 18:03 Veriat wrote: Ok i know i have the lowest post count, but be mindfull that this is my first forum mafia game. And the reasoning behind my "only agreeing and disagreeing" posts, is because many of my thoughts have already been posted, so posting it again would just be repition, which most of the posts in the earlier pages pretty much were. And each time i go to check on the game, it has expand with a few pages, so there's been a lot of information to go through. So (watch out another agreement!) i would agree that i indeed do look very scummy atm. But this was just an explanation on my behavior, i'll have my analysis posted soonish. In this post he states his reason for his "agreeing and disagreeing" posts, with the explanation that all of the ideas had already been posted. Surely, he must have something to add, he could atleast voice his opinions on some other players. On April 28 2012 18:26 Veriat wrote: Ok here are my thoughts on who are the scum: The_Zen_Man nreekay324 Jailbreaker The_Zen_Man You're stance on the "lynch no lynch" discussion has left me a little puzzled, and your overall playstyle seem fishy to me, so you're getting my vote. nreekay324 All your posts just seem off and scummy. Many of them seem rushed or flawed, and you basically just jumped the bandwagon with your early vote on Why_So_Much. On a side note i did find Why_So_Much's playstyle kind of off, but i don't think he's scum, because then why would you vote for him? Jailbreaker You've my number 3 due to consistent flaws in your previous posts. This post, and his vote is still puzzling to me. "Your overall playstyle seem fishy to me" is not a good explanation, and if you want to take a opinion you should give a good reason. Your vote on me was almost as puzzling as whysomuch, who haven't answered to why he voted for me. If you want to prove that you are townie you should vote with a good argument. Also your other "candidates" do not have any better explanations. @WhySoMuch: I said this before, but i will say it again, please explain your vote. | ||
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On April 28 2012 06:54 The_Zen_Man wrote: @Lazermonkey It seems that you think that me and AcedAnoka are scumbuddies simply because i stated that i liked his pressure vote on yomi. That is a very weak case. Also, i find it very strange that you would post something even though you knew it was something weak. You stated in your post that it's really scummy to make a case that is weak, but you make one yourself. This is puzzling to me, you contradict yourself. You say that the votes on whysomuch was not serious and that there wasn't a possibility of a bandwagoning, but you also say that you don't know about nreekay324 yet? That means there was a possibilty of it, as we are still unsure of nreekay324 position. In your post you say that mine was confusing, yet you post one that is contraticting and strange in response? The reason i seem defensive is because i have to explain myself whenever someone like you raises strong suspicions against me. @Lazermonkey It seems that you think that me and AcedAnoka are scumbuddies simply because i stated that i liked his pressure vote on yomi. That is a very weak case. No shit sherlock. I even said that in my post. Also, i find it very strange that you would post something even though you knew it was something weak. Why wouldn't I post it? It's not like I'm tunneling you hardcore atm... You stated in your post that it's really scummy to make a case that is weak, but you make one yourself. This is puzzling to me, you contradict yourself. I never said this. Please reread my post. I said if whysomuch posted a weak case on yomi and you would agree with it that would make YOU look scummy. You say that the votes on whysomuch was not serious and that there wasn't a possibility of a bandwagoning, but you also say that you don't know about nreekay324 yet? That means there was a possibilty of it, as we are still unsure of nreekay324 position. So we need 7 people to get someone lynched. I was 99,9% sure yomi was just trolling which left us with 1 vote whysomuch with almost 48h to deadline. So no, he was never really in true danger. The reason i seem defensive is because i have to explain myself whenever someone like you raises strong suspicions against me. You are doing this wrong. Noone was really too suspicious of you untill the point where you posted like 5 defensive posts in just a couple of hours. And you still havn't posted any cases of your own. The only post you have that isn't defensive or arguing about no-lynches is you summary post. But that post was simply a summary. You didn't really bring anything new to the table and some of your reads were off. This will by my last response to you for a while. I'm not getting anywhere here I feel. You are not reading what I post or at least not reading carefully enough. I still think you are town. Your play is strange, because you aren't helping town alot atm, but I feel you also play very wierd if you would be scum. Your motives doesn't seem to fit a scum player. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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Veriat
Denmark11 Posts
On April 26 2012 22:51 The_Zen_Man wrote: Hey guys! This is my first game of maifa, but i have been following other games a bit. I also think that the "no lynch" option could prove useful early in the game to avoid misslynch. The other game i was following misslynched on the first day simply because they didn't have enough information. And after lurker for some time, you posts this On April 27 2012 19:16 The_Zen_Man wrote: First, i would like to say that the reason for the time it took for this respond is beacause school/sleep. Im currently still in school, but i found time to post this. WhySoMuch: I understand that my first post would seem suspicous, but i think u misunderstood me. I simply don't want a lynch just for the sake of lynch. If we have information, or if we are sure we would gain some information by lynching then we should do it. But if we just lynch someone because we don't have anyone else, that would probably result in a townie dead. Early in the game that kind of information might not be available, that is why i said nolynch could be useful early. Also, i understand that u voted for me to pressure me to respond, but if you still choose to keep voting on me you should give me a better explination. I can't post for a few hours, but when i get home i will post some more including my thouhts on some other people. And from that point on you're on the defensive, not added to the discussion but simply defending your self in multiple posts. To me this just looks scummy, you open being pro "no lynch" because you're scared it might hit you our one of your fellow scum. And then you're playing defensive trying devirt the attention somewhere else, like just now that i vote for you, you panic vote me back, and try to divert the attention to me, now that i've called you out. And on a side note i know i shared your opinion on the whole D1 lynch discussion, but i my previous posts i note that from reading some of the arguments on the topic, and this being my first forum mafia, i change my mind slightly on the subject. And i apologize if my first post on why i found you scummy lacked content, upon prof reading it (after posting it ofc /facepalm) i do see SC2's point on it looking kinda scummy. | ||
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Veriat
Denmark11 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Veriat: (3): yomi, Mordanis, The_Zen_Man The_Zen_Man (2): WhySoMuch, Veriat Yomi (2): Jailbreaker, AcesAnoka AcesAnoka (2): O.Golden_ne, Splinter[eP] WhySoMuch (1): nreekay324 Haven't voted (2): Lazermonkey, Pure-SC2 A majority of at least 7 players is required to lynch. If one is not reached, no one will be lynched. Everyone is required to vote. | ||
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
On April 27 2012 13:33 O.Golden_ne wrote:[/B @the_zen_man - please rebut to why_so_much not with a vote but with a clear explanation of your innocence and your views on the people voting for whysomuch. Golden Also, concerning my nolynch view, i have answered this before, but i can do it again. We can still gain information besides lynching, and i simply didn't want to have a mislynch, which is common early in the game. Also, mafia tend to be for lynch, as they can easily sneak by without being noticed. Now, i want to adress the matter of my vote. I didn't panic, i really saw that move as scummy. You were lurking for quite a while and then suddenly you come back and vote for me without much of an explanation? That was a strange move. Something i should have included in my post before is the Veriat and WhySoMuch connection. Whysomuch was really aggressive towards me after i had olnly posted once, but directly below me was a very similliar post that he barely mentioned. [/QUOTE] I find this post very wolfy, more so than Varient or however you spell his name who said the same thing essentially, because you aren't thinking deeper. [/QUOTE] Is my first post supposed to be a deep analytical post? Explain to me also what you mean by "deeper", because i don't see the "deepness of Veriat's first post(below) [B]On April 26 2012 22:55 Veriat wrote: Hello Everybody! I love the theme and i'm very excited to get this show on the road! Like many here this is my first game so i'm looking forward to a good time with you fine lads (and lasses) As Pure-SC2 said, i share his opinion on the "no lynch" vote since this is a game full of newbies like myself, and there isn't all that information up in the air the first day, which we can use to base good lynches on. With that said, Game on and let's get the discussion going! Then, after Whysomuch says that he will lay off on me, he votes on me without any explanation, and he has not posted since that. Also, not long after Whysomuch vote without any explanation, veriat votes for me with not much of an explanation either. I am still keeping my vote on you. | ||
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
##Vote: AcecAnoka This vote may very well change tho, depending on the events in the evening! | ||
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Mordanis
United States893 Posts
I am currently favoring a lynch of Veriat, because he didn't post for a good 24 hours, his posts before were pretty contentless, and since his drought he's been very defensive. I will however unvote and vote for Aces if that will help gain a majority. Either way, its decision time. | ||
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