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slOosh
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slOosh
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I'm inclined to think that blubbdavid just didn't read, which is more indicative of VT rather than power role / scum. Blazinghand's case isn't that strong, and was probably more for discussion purposes, given the fact that he has already moved on to voting for two other players. Now, as we wait for people to start checking in, I'd like to get some actual discussion going. On May 03 2012 09:35 sinani206 wrote: hi. im not sure if blubs thingy was a scumslip. also why the fuck does everyone make a big deal about kenpachi every fucking game? Neutral stance on blub, no comment on katina etc., blowing situation out of proportion (there was only 1 post made voting kenpachi and two small responses. hardly a big deal as he puts it) Thoughts? | ||
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slOosh
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Still waiting for something from sinani206. ##Vote: sinani206 | ||
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On May 04 2012 15:00 sinani206 wrote: Nice two posts about me. Got anything on anyone else? Also, to confirm, day ends at 21:00 GMT (+00:00), right? Why, as a townie, do you show absolutely no interest in proving your innocence in the form of contributions? | ||
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slOosh
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layabout, any reason why its BM over Kenpachi or any other lurker? Looking over katina right now | ||
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On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote: Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence. I do not think we should lynch katina. Do other people think that this is BS? Why is SA's post BS? And where does katina make posts indicative of intelligence and how does it show a town alignment? | ||
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Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments. ##Vote Katina As for layabout since he is here he can answer the questions. | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Nova_Terra | ||
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On May 05 2012 11:40 PaqMan wrote: ebwop: nevermind that, going through sloosh's filter and I saw his question. imo SlOosh's reasoning for voting Katina is weak. It basically boils down to "because these guys said so", followed up by the next sentence. He then goes on to vote NT without a given reason. FoS on Sloosh. Mmmhmm. You realize I fosed 1 scum in sinani206 when no one else did, and my reasoning for voting katina is not the same thing as what DYH and BH said. I spent day 1 voting for 2 scum. TBH I sheeped BH on his vote on N_T but that is because he seemed townie enough and that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way. | ||
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On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote: If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM.Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me. Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments. If you think I'm scum then yea keep pushing me. TBH yea I haven't really shown anything that should give you a strong town read but I never claimed confirmed town - I said what I did so that you would think things through instead of trying to force events into preconceived reads instead of pulling reads objectively out of events. | ||
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On May 05 2012 14:11 PaqMan wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote: So you haven't shown why these things are necessarily scum tells. Because I can and have explained them from a town POV. If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM. If you think I'm scum then yea keep pushing me. TBH yea I haven't really shown anything that should give you a strong town read but I never claimed confirmed town - I said what I did so that you would think things through instead of trying to force events into preconceived reads instead of pulling reads objectively out of events. 1. Did I blame you for BM getting lynched? Nope. On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote: that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way. If you thought the lynch was bull WHY DIDNT YOU TELL US NO. Why didn't you say some sort OBJECTION if you thought it was bull? If you thought the lynch was a mistake for town why did you not mention it? Why did you not say "Hey guys I don't like this idea of lynching BM"? Because you wanted town to make a mislynch. On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote: So you haven't shown why these things are necessarily scum tells. Because I can and have explained them from a town POV. You saw the deadline was in 30 minutes, you saw your scumbuddy Katina hadn't voted and that she wasn't on. You basically knew she would get modkilled so you put a vote on her. + Show Spoiler + On May 03 2012 13:46 slOosh wrote: Please stop with the spam people. If this is the rate at which D1 will plan out then we won't be getting anywhere. Consolidate your posts and don't throw out one liners so freely. I'm inclined to think that blubbdavid just didn't read, which is more indicative of VT rather than power role / scum. Blazinghand's case isn't that strong, and was probably more for discussion purposes, given the fact that he has already moved on to voting for two other players. Now, as we wait for people to start checking in, I'd like to get some actual discussion going. Neutral stance on blub, no comment on katina etc., blowing situation out of proportion (there was only 1 post made voting kenpachi and two small responses. hardly a big deal as he puts it) Thoughts? You begin by trying to start discussion around Sinani, On May 04 2012 13:35 slOosh wrote: Dear Paqman, please stop spamming and consolidate your posts. You hold 60% of the posts this page, and it makes it harder for us to read everything. Still waiting for something from sinani206. ##Vote: sinani206 You pressure him with a vote, On May 04 2012 23:40 slOosh wrote: Why, as a townie, do you show absolutely no interest in proving your innocence in the form of contributions? And this is a really good point against Sinani that I agree with, but after this post you drop the issue and don't bring it back up. On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote: Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me. Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments. ##Vote Katina As for layabout since he is here he can answer the questions. Then you switch around and place a vote on Katina (imo using a not-very-good reason). I asked you what your reasoning was and instead of explaining your vote, all you do is quote yourself and tell me to "really think about it." I guess it's my fault for not being specific but I want you to elaborate and explain. It's because you know she's not responding in your scum QT, you know she hasn't voted yet and you know she's not online. So with 30 minutes left until lynch you take your vote off sinani and place it on her. You go on to take your vote off Katina (Consolidation of votes?) and place it on NT (Because BH seems townie). Not trying to sound like a narrator but your actions make good sense from a scum point-of-view. On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote: If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM. Note:bolded. You know what that looks like? It looks like scum telling me to look at other people and leave them alone because they don't like the spotlight & attention. I am acknowledging other people, you're just the first one I've looked into who appears scummy. I've been pretty busy the past couple of days. Therefore with the limited time I had I did the best I could. I dropped my sinani thing because it seemed that no one cared. No point in wasting my vote by leaving it on him. I liked BH & DYH's comments on katina, and after going through her filter also saw that she was acting suspicious so I threw a vote her way. On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote: I didn't flesh out my read here with a case by case detailing I saw it this way because I was using a friend's broken laptop and quoting was immensely difficult. I can do it now if you want if you think that it is some bs reasoning to vote her.Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me. Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments. ##Vote Katina As for BM, I didn't like it because people were just voting him without reason, not because I thought he was town. To me he was lurker, so we were essentially voting off a lurker, but what I didn't like was that people literally threw votes on him without mentioning in the thread (well this is hindsight, I don't think I noticed till DYH or someone pointed it out). There is no accountability that way and it gives scum an easy way out of mislynches. Like, can you tell me which ones voted for BM with good intentions and which ones voted for malicious reasons? I can barely see the progression of the bandwagon in the thread as it is (could people please bold their vote?) Add onto that the bad computer and there really isn't any incentive for me to try to hard swing town with the limited time I had. I might be lazy but I'm not scum. In any case I'll just be working on my reads and if I survive I'll be doing what I've been doing D2. | ||
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Well since scum is down to 3, they probably have played out night 1 more conservatively (subconscious or not). Now that I pointed this out, they might start picking up but I doubt they can hold that charade for 6(?) mislynches through. Eiii, provide your reasoning why posting / discussion is bad at night. | ||
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slOosh
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Eiii, how are we the ones choosing who dies? Ultimately scum shoot who they want to shoot - while it is true that they can make more informed decisions of shots, the same can be said of the daytime too. Discussion at night is good, especially in a game like this where the majority of deaths are modkills for inactivity. Please post some reads before daybreak. | ||
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On May 06 2012 05:21 BlackRaven wrote: Sloosh, thoughts on jdub? :3 He spends some time with blubbdavid incident, concludes that what he did (asking powerrole) is scummy but then moves onto Grush, fosing him for "obvious reasons". Clearly pushing along BM wagon, with reasons like On May 05 2012 05:47 johnnywup wrote: I'm gonna vote for BM because I don't want him to survive to lategame. He's disruptive to scumhunting. not because he is scum. Could be residual stress from LIII so not totally conclusive. Has responded unreasonably aggressively to pressure. Conclusion: Probably scum. | ||
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