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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 02:17 GMT
#588
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:
Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum

Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out)

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...

katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party.


Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia.

On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...


You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum.

##unvote
##vote: Katina


come at me bro


Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA.

Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.

Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote.

Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop.

If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what



On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray!


Both of which of from the very beginning of the game




Just curious, but what was the point of that post layabout? Nobody was discussing her so it seemed kind of random for you to make that analysis.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 02:40 GMT
#590
ebwop: nevermind that, going through sloosh's filter and I saw his question.


On May 05 2012 05:06 slOosh wrote:
Aside: Stop talking / referring to unfinished mafia games.


layabout, any reason why its BM over Kenpachi or any other lurker?

Looking over katina right now


On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.
##Vote Katina

As for layabout since he is here he can answer the questions.


imo SlOosh's reasoning for voting Katina is weak. It basically boils down to "because these guys said so", followed up by the next sentence.

He then goes on to vote NT without a given reason.

On May 05 2012 06:50 slOosh wrote:
Aight moving onto NT.
##unvote
##vote: Nova_Terra


FoS on Sloosh.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 02:42 GMT
#591
On May 05 2012 11:25 johnnywup wrote:
paqman, people arent allowed to discuss people that aren't currently being discussed? How does discussion happen if you hold that to be true?


Don't try twisting my words. If you really read my post, you'd see that I was just curious as to why layabout brought up Katina, especially since he made no read on her in his analysis.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 02:46 GMT
#593
On May 05 2012 11:44 johnnywup wrote:
Didn't try twisting your words, I just was wondering why you didn't want to have discussion. That's what it sounded like to me.


On May 04 2012 10:56 PaqMan wrote:
People need to start talking instead of actively lurking. People should be talking and discussion needs to start rolling, not be at a stand still such as now. I'm hoping my voteswitch will revive discussion.


I never said that I didn't want discussion.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 03:43 GMT
#597
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
Mmmhmm. You realize I fosed 1 scum in sinani206 when no one else did, and my reasoning for voting katina is not the same thing as what DYH and BH said.


Then what was your reason for voting her? Becuase all you said was + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.



On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
I spent day 1 voting for 2 scum.


Easy explanation. You knew your scummates were inactive because they werent talking in your QT, so you bussed them. I don't see you coincidentally voting for the two scum that get modkilled. And now you're using that for town credit.

On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
TBH I sheeped BH on his vote on N_T but that is because he seemed townie enough.


Voting with BH because BH seemed town? Couldnt be much lazier.
In BHs last game (LII) he tunneled marv his entire game. Guess what marv flipped (town).

On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way.


You say its bull now, but did you do anything to stop it? Nada! you let it run its full course without any objections whatsoever.

I dont like theuls. Sloosh looks like scum.

now excuse my, im not completely sober. TGIF ftw!
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 05:11 GMT
#602
On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
So you haven't shown why these things are necessarily scum tells. Because I can and have explained them from a town POV.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.
If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM.

If you think I'm scum then yea keep pushing me. TBH yea I haven't really shown anything that should give you a strong town read but I never claimed confirmed town - I said what I did so that you would think things through instead of trying to force events into preconceived reads instead of pulling reads objectively out of events.


1. Did I blame you for BM getting lynched? Nope.

On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way.


If you thought the lynch was bull WHY DIDNT YOU TELL US NO. Why didn't you say some sort OBJECTION if you thought it was bull? If you thought the lynch was a mistake for town why did you not mention it? Why did you not say "Hey guys I don't like this idea of lynching BM"?
Because you wanted town to make a mislynch.


On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
So you haven't shown why these things are necessarily scum tells. Because I can and have explained them from a town POV.


You saw the deadline was in 30 minutes, you saw your scumbuddy Katina hadn't voted and that she wasn't on. You basically knew she would get modkilled so you put a vote on her.

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 03 2012 13:46 slOosh wrote:
Please stop with the spam people. If this is the rate at which D1 will plan out then we won't be getting anywhere. Consolidate your posts and don't throw out one liners so freely.

I'm inclined to think that blubbdavid just didn't read, which is more indicative of VT rather than power role / scum.
Blazinghand's case isn't that strong, and was probably more for discussion purposes, given the fact that he has already moved on to voting for two other players.

Now, as we wait for people to start checking in, I'd like to get some actual discussion going.
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:35 sinani206 wrote:
hi. im not sure if blubs thingy was a scumslip. also why the fuck does everyone make a big deal about kenpachi every fucking game?

Neutral stance on blub, no comment on katina etc., blowing situation out of proportion (there was only 1 post made voting kenpachi and two small responses. hardly a big deal as he puts it)

Thoughts?


You begin by trying to start discussion around Sinani,

On May 04 2012 13:35 slOosh wrote:
Dear Paqman, please stop spamming and consolidate your posts. You hold 60% of the posts this page, and it makes it harder for us to read everything.

Still waiting for something from sinani206.
##Vote: sinani206


You pressure him with a vote,

On May 04 2012 23:40 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 15:00 sinani206 wrote:
On May 04 2012 13:35 slOosh wrote:
Dear Paqman, please stop spamming and consolidate your posts. You hold 60% of the posts this page, and it makes it harder for us to read everything.

Still waiting for something from sinani206.
##Vote: sinani206


Nice two posts about me. Got anything on anyone else?

Also, to confirm, day ends at 21:00 GMT (+00:00), right?

Why, as a townie, do you show absolutely no interest in proving your innocence in the form of contributions?


And this is a really good point against Sinani that I agree with, but after this post you drop the issue and don't bring it back up.

On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.
##Vote Katina

As for layabout since he is here he can answer the questions.


Then you switch around and place a vote on Katina (imo using a not-very-good reason). I asked you what your reasoning was and instead of explaining your vote, all you do is quote yourself and tell me to "really think about it." I guess it's my fault for not being specific but I want you to elaborate and explain.
It's because you know she's not responding in your scum QT, you know she hasn't voted yet and you know she's not online. So with 30 minutes left until lynch you take your vote off sinani and place it on her.
You go on to take your vote off Katina (Consolidation of votes?) and place it on NT (Because BH seems townie).


Not trying to sound like a narrator but your actions make good sense from a scum point-of-view.


On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM.


Note:bolded. You know what that looks like? It looks like scum telling me to look at other people and leave them alone because they don't like the spotlight & attention.
I am acknowledging other people, you're just the first one I've looked into who appears scummy.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 05:22 GMT
#604
ebwop:
On May 05 2012 14:11 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM.


Note:bolded. You know what that looks like? It looks like scum telling me to look at other people and leave them alone because they don't like the spotlight & attention.
I am acknowledging other people, you're just the first one I've looked into who appears scummy.

t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 05:23 GMT
#605
Busy day tomorrow, most likely wont be back until a few hours before night ends. Be safe ppl!
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 20:22 GMT
#652
On May 05 2012 07:07 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 07:04 Bill Murray wrote:
well, layabout hopping on the lynch makes me really suspect him
he would normally leave me around if he's town
of my wagon, i would like you all to lynch layabout

I am sick of leaving you around it has caused nothing but trouble


Town should keep in mind BM's last wish before we lynched him. I haven't completely read into laya except for the points people have made against him so I shall further delve into his filter when Day starts.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 20:44 GMT
#654
I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance.

+ Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +
On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:
Cool, lets's go

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.

##Vote: Palmar


Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty.

Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him.

Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he?

:3


All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing more

On May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond.


This is wrong

- D


How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong?


If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around.

People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so.

Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment.

-D


This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH.


BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people.

And his D1 vote:
On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...

##Vote: layabout

-D


goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't."
I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 21:40 GMT
#660
Will the vig claim?
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 21:43 GMT
#662
ebwop: I'm guessing the vigi shot Palmar.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 21:45 GMT
#663
This is sad to see my FoS's dead.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 22:26 GMT
#673
Not trying brag, but I voted BM first.

That said, I have a null read on layabout. I still haven't looked into his posts and it's what I plan to do tonight. I have also yet to look through NT.
However, after just finishing a game with Marvel, I agree with your case on him. I haven't seen him do any solid scumhunting and most of his posts don't have value.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 23:52 GMT
#684
On May 06 2012 00:52 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 11:17 PaqMan wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:
Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum

Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out)

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...

katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party.


Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia.

On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...


You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum.

##unvote
##vote: Katina


come at me bro


Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA.

Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.

Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote.

Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop.

If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what


and yet....
On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray!


Both of which of from the very beginning of the game




Just curious, but what was the point of that post layabout? Nobody was discussing her so it seemed kind of random for you to make that analysis.




Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:15 slOosh wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote:
Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence.

I do not think we should lynch katina.

Do other people think that this is BS?
On May 05 2012 04:46 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I don't really like layabout much. His inconsistency and lacking response to why his policy lynch is now a good option compared to earlier. The generic first post as pointed out by myself and better pointed out by DoYouHas. If he want to kill us why not vote us instead of steering town towards a werd policy lynch on BM.

(I'm not defending BM. Don't care if he live or die so far)

##Vote Layabout


//Dirk

Why is SA's post BS? And where does katina make posts indicative of intelligence and how does it show a town alignment?

discussion of katina:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591170
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591786
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591832
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14592117

My post doesn't say why i thought she was town in fact i just wanted to say that her posts made sense and i didn't want to kill somebody that was making sense when there were so many players that weren't making sense or even playing the game.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 23:54 GMT
#685
I have a null read on laya right now, and I don't understand why people are using "he defended katina!" when the issue was clearly already addressed.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 06 2012 01:56 GMT
#687
On May 05 2012 07:16 Nova_Terra wrote:
we so good as town that the only scum we kill are those that forget to play T_T


Do you have any reads? anyone in particular that you think is scummy?
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 06 2012 01:57 GMT
#688
ebwop: I read your case and I'm not sold on it.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 06 2012 17:22 GMT
#729
On May 07 2012 01:08 ghost_403 wrote:
Most of the argument against layabout comes from his "hard defense" of Katina. That's not a hard defense at all. Saying a rather good player is moderately intelligent and shouldn't be lynch so early in the game is just good play.


On May 07 2012 01:34 ghost_403 wrote:
Whoah.


Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:
Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad.

On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum

Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out)

On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...

katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen.

On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party.


Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia.

On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...


You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum.

##unvote
##vote: Katina


come at me bro


Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA.

Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing.

On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.

Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote.

Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop.

If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what



On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray!


Both of which of from the very beginning of the game



I honestly can't make heads or tails of this post. Take a close look at it. Is he accusing or defending Katina in this post? Does he find her actions scummy or townie? Can you tell me, because I sure can't figure it out. Instead, it's just a compilations of Katina posts with his commentary on what they say without actually saying anything. And he ends the post with we should lynch BM. Why? I have no idea.

I do not like this post.


Ghost, you basically answered your own question before you even asked it...

Also:
On May 06 2012 08:52 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 00:52 layabout wrote:
On May 05 2012 11:17 PaqMan wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:
Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum

Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out)

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...

katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party.


Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia.

On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...


You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum.

##unvote
##vote: Katina


come at me bro


Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA.

Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.

Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote.

Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop.

If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what


and yet....
On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray!


Both of which of from the very beginning of the game




Just curious, but what was the point of that post layabout? Nobody was discussing her so it seemed kind of random for you to make that analysis.




On May 05 2012 05:15 slOosh wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote:
Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence.

I do not think we should lynch katina.

Do other people think that this is BS?
On May 05 2012 04:46 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I don't really like layabout much. His inconsistency and lacking response to why his policy lynch is now a good option compared to earlier. The generic first post as pointed out by myself and better pointed out by DoYouHas. If he want to kill us why not vote us instead of steering town towards a werd policy lynch on BM.

(I'm not defending BM. Don't care if he live or die so far)

##Vote Layabout


//Dirk

Why is SA's post BS? And where does katina make posts indicative of intelligence and how does it show a town alignment?

discussion of katina:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591170
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591786
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14591832
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14592117

My post doesn't say why i thought she was town in fact i just wanted to say that her posts made sense and i didn't want to kill somebody that was making sense when there were so many players that weren't making sense or even playing the game.



And:
+ Show Spoiler +
It's odd that no matter how many times layabout explained his post, people keep bringing it up as something to convict him with.
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't think laya is scum, and I think scum are trying to subtly push for his lynch.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 06 2012 17:31 GMT
#731
On May 06 2012 06:18 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:
I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance.

+ Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +
On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:
Cool, lets's go

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.

##Vote: Palmar


Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty.

Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him.

Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he?

:3


All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing more

On May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond.


This is wrong

- D


How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong?


If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around.

People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so.

Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment.

-D


This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH.


BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people.

And his D1 vote:
On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...

##Vote: layabout

-D


goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't."
I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS


I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment.


Sinensis I'd like to see your reads.
t(ツ)t
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