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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 25 2012 22:26 GMT
#1381
Also it REALLY bugs me that Ottoxlol has taken his vote off. Fucking looking like a last minute vote to keep himself safe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 25 2012 22:26 GMT
#1382
ninja'd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 25 2012 22:27 GMT
#1383
Dont vote for zephird!

ottozlol's play suggests that he very well could be town because he has made the effort to do things that townies should do. His opinions have some level of consistency.

The same cannot be said for MidnightGaldius. His posting suggests that he is looking for easy candidates to push instead of scum to lynch.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 25 2012 22:28 GMT
#1384
@Mementoss If you were the deciding vote, but the lynch was either you or another person, you wouldn't vote for yourself?

I can't blame him much for that.
t(ツ)t
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 25 2012 22:29 GMT
#1385
On April 26 2012 07:28 PaqMan wrote:
@Mementoss If you were the deciding vote, but the lynch was either you or another person, you wouldn't vote for yourself?

I can't blame him much for that.


Yeah I definitely would. But I was saying that at a point where he unvoted long ago and was leaving his vote as a wild card, as he just voted he voted who I expected him to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 25 2012 22:30 GMT
#1386
On April 26 2012 07:27 layabout wrote:
Dont vote for zephird!

ottozlol's play suggests that he very well could be town because he has made the effort to do things that townies should do. His opinions have some level of consistency.

The same cannot be said for MidnightGaldius. His posting suggests that he is looking for easy candidates to push instead of scum to lynch.


If you think you can convince people to unvote and vote MG before lynch then by all means do it. But when it comes close to lynch time and you don't have the support, please change your vote to one of the two candidates
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 25 2012 22:30 GMT
#1387
On April 26 2012 07:29 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:28 PaqMan wrote:
@Mementoss If you were the deciding vote, but the lynch was either you or another person, you wouldn't vote for yourself?

I can't blame him much for that.


Yeah I definitely would. But I was saying that at a point where he unvoted long ago and was leaving his vote as a wild card, as he just voted he voted who I expected him to.


yeah my bad, didn't see the ninja'd part.
t(ツ)t
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
April 25 2012 22:32 GMT
#1388
layabout, I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I don't want to lynch scum, but trying to get votes off of Zeph now is just begging for a last-minute scum switch regarding him and Ottox. Unless both are scum, they can easily trigger a mislynch. Pushing for my lynch now, 30 minutes before the deadline, is dangerously risky.
Trust in Bayes.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 25 2012 22:33 GMT
#1389
There is no time layabout. MG is scum in my eyes, and I believe people will look at him in about 1 hour and 30min.

I hate this last min bandwagon on me. I'll love to see people's reactions when that green text comes out and everyone is like "wtf was that bandwagon"

Also
On April 26 2012 07:32 MidnightGladius wrote:
layabout, I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I don't want to lynch scum, but trying to get votes off of Zeph now is just begging for a last-minute scum switch regarding him and Ottox. Unless both are scum, they can easily trigger a mislynch. Pushing for my lynch now, 30 minutes before the deadline, is dangerously risky.

-> Says it's risky
-> Never says it's wrong

anyone else sees that?
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
April 25 2012 22:34 GMT
#1390
Do I have to spell it out for you? It's dangerously risky (and it's wrong).
Trust in Bayes.
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 25 2012 22:35 GMT
#1391
Yeah whats up with that MG?
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 25 2012 22:36 GMT
#1392
ninja'd
t(ツ)t
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 25 2012 22:36 GMT
#1393
On April 26 2012 07:33 Zephirdd wrote:
There is no time layabout. MG is scum in my eyes, and I believe people will look at him in about 1 hour and 30min.

I hate this last min bandwagon on me. I'll love to see people's reactions when that green text comes out and everyone is like "wtf was that bandwagon"

Also
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:32 MidnightGladius wrote:
layabout, I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I don't want to lynch scum, but trying to get votes off of Zeph now is just begging for a last-minute scum switch regarding him and Ottox. Unless both are scum, they can easily trigger a mislynch. Pushing for my lynch now, 30 minutes before the deadline, is dangerously risky.

-> Says it's risky
-> Never says it's wrong

anyone else sees that?


Zephirdd attempted fearmongering

....It's not very effective
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 25 2012 22:36 GMT
#1394
On April 26 2012 07:29 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:28 PaqMan wrote:
@Mementoss If you were the deciding vote, but the lynch was either you or another person, you wouldn't vote for yourself?

I can't blame him much for that.


Yeah I definitely would. But I was saying that at a point where he unvoted long ago and was leaving his vote as a wild card, as he just voted he voted who I expected him to.


On April 26 2012 05:33 Ottoxlol wrote:
My vote was wasted on him anyways because no one is voting for him. Since I am the vote leader atm, I have to vote for the 2nd guy, even if I feel like someone is more likely to be scum.

Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 25 2012 22:37 GMT
#1395
On April 26 2012 07:34 MidnightGladius wrote:
Do I have to spell it out for you? It's dangerously risky (and it's wrong).

why are you answering me? arent I scum for you?
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 25 2012 22:37 GMT
#1396
Zephirdd: if you're not scum, could you please tell me why your two votes of today are backed up by 0 analysis?

The first one was on a lurker... iffy on day 2, but ok. Then the 2nd on Ottoxlol is backed up by one whole sentence you've said all game.

What gives?

What gives on your excitement that VE being JK made me look bad?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
April 25 2012 22:39 GMT
#1397
Zeph, if I had any doubt that you were trying to shit up the thread before, then I have no doubt at all now.
Trust in Bayes.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 25 2012 22:40 GMT
#1398
On April 26 2012 05:37 MidnightGladius wrote:
I'm putting my vote on zeph. He has said nothing recently to make me change my mind about his earlier posting, and johnny's recent posting has made me less suspicious of him. He has stopped sheeping actively, and raises good points. I do want to tell johnny that building on gonzaw's cases is reasonable, but though we know that he was innocent, we have no idea as to whether or not he was actually right.

Sentinel is pretty much impossible for me to read, and his latest WIFOM is incredibly frustrating. My intuition on him is apathetic town, but he could easily be scum, and I just can't tell. I don't feel like he's taking things at all seriously, and his unwillingness to push cases beyond Ottoxlol doesn't help.

And we still have so many lurkers, and no vig claims to deal with them... BKEXE, any conclusions yet? St.Daniel, now that you're replaced out of SNMMX, any thoughts? We really can't do this without you guys.

##Vote: Zephirdd

why did you wait until now to think i'm not scum? I've been making the same cases for a while. I'll take this as "i'm gonna push a noob and see if i can get him lynched" into "I can't get him lynched, better back off".

I think MG is scum as well as sentinel and zeph, but there's not enough time to get MG lynched. BUT everyone starting to vote zeph now is very concerning for me. I still think he's scum I just wonder why you didn't vote for him sooner. Scum may be trying to get on board to gain towncred. St.Daniel voting without saying anything is also suspicious.

The fact that Ottox and Zeph's votes are so close is concerning to me because scum could easily swing the vote at the last minute to the non-scum (if one of them is in fact town). If anyone tries to change vote last minute, I encourage town to vig them tonight, or lynch them tomorrow, even if they switch their vote onto someone who flips scum.

laya, I appreciate your effort on getting MG lynched but I really doubt it's happening. I also would like to know why you said get votes off zeph.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 25 2012 22:42 GMT
#1399
The two players that you feel forced into voting for each had a very low number (like 4 or 5 votes) of votes. Instead of voting for the players that received the most but still barely any votes ask yourself some questions:

Does this player care about the game? ( if the answer is no then there is a reduced chance that they are scum since scum will at least try to feign interest to look town)

Does this player care about finding scum?
ottoxlol yes, yes
zephird maybe maybe
MG yes no
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 25 2012 22:48 GMT
#1400
Johnny i didn't think zeph was scummy yesterday and i said so. I still don't think he is now. And my number 1 scumread voted for him.

MG has been truly apathetic towards today's lynch, he has put in very little effort and offered very little of his own thoughts. He was willing to write a case against Johnny, he gave up on it, and now he has hopped onto the zeph wagon because of reasons that he has apparently had for days that he is not willing to share with us.
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