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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 00:03 GMT
#795
Just wondered if you had different reads than Blazinghand. You're a hydra but you can still have different opinions.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 02:23 GMT
#818
I think it should go without saying that we lynch Zephirdd tomorrow if he's not dead in the morning.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 04:00 GMT
#826
I called him out and he's trying and failing to act townie now, midnight. zeph is scum fo sho.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 14:21 GMT
#836
On April 23 2012 16:29 Bill Murray wrote:
oh people were voting me?
this game... lets vote our power roles out of the game, guys, good job

Why aren't we talking about this? BM comes in out of nowhere and says that he's a power role. What do you guys make of it?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 18:54 GMT
#844
You don't still think zeph is scum Blazing?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 22:22 GMT
#859
On April 24 2012 06:47 Bill Murray wrote:
johnnywup is parroting pacman on 42 regarding zephirrd

? I created the initial case against zephirdd bro
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 22:29 GMT
#861
On April 23 2012 07:45 Zephirdd wrote:
Just for the record, im last minute voting VE in order to avoid a modkill; I dont recall any other candidate better than him either, although I kinda lost track since page 30 or so

Yeah, your best read
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 22:41 GMT
#863
Reffering to St.Daniel: Maybe he rolled VT and got bored this game. Who knows. (PS I do think he's scum but him posting more in another game isn't necessarily a tell)

One thing I do know is you were pushing the VE lynch and I don't think you're in the position to try and lynch someone who opposed it.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 22:47 GMT
#864
2nd part referring to layabout
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 23:03 GMT
#868
what are you suggesting sloosh? that he was hesitant to lynch VE because he didn't want to lynch a potential jailkeeper?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 23:07 GMT
#872
not above scrutiny but I think unless you have an actual case against blazing you're more suspicious than him because you were on the VE lynch. obviously there were townies on the VE lynch but there were almost definitely scum on that lynch. Which makes you more likely to be scum than him. You didn't give an argument, you gave an opinion, and opinions of people on the VE lynch are worth less than others right now. So unless you come up with a good ARGUMENT against him, you're more likely to be under scrutiny than him.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 23:07 GMT
#873
EBWOP: above referring to layabout
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 23:17 GMT
#875
On April 24 2012 08:02 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 07:29 johnnywup wrote:
On April 23 2012 07:45 Zephirdd wrote:
Just for the record, im last minute voting VE in order to avoid a modkill; I dont recall any other candidate better than him either, although I kinda lost track since page 30 or so

Yeah, your best read

It was my best read at the time and, if I recall correctly, of other 7 players.

Sorry, your case is weak. Too weak. And when a case is so weak, it is usually wrong. Food for thought.

you voted him so you wouldn't get modkilled, right before (what you thought was) the deadline. That's not your "best read". That's not "A read" at all. That's you trying to ninjavote and get a lynch on a jailkeeper.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 23:24 GMT
#878
Why don't you make cases so you don't have to vote at the last minute to avoid getting modkilled?
and:

how can one post make you flip 180 and think ve is scum from thinking he is town.

what solid information do we have to work from from him flipping jk

how can you take him NOT posting as him claiming scum.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 23:32 GMT
#883
Bad timing for that swearing Blazing :x
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 23:41 GMT
#893
On April 24 2012 08:31 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 08:24 johnnywup wrote:
Why don't you make cases so you don't have to vote at the last minute to avoid getting modkilled?
and:

how can one post make you flip 180 and think ve is scum from thinking he is town.

what solid information do we have to work from from him flipping jk

how can you take him NOT posting as him claiming scum.

What the fuck is this.
I was afk most of the time I didn't have time for a fucking case, I didn't have time to analyze other players and I could post at that time by luck(although I guess I ended up with an extra hour, but not enough to change my opinion on the matter).

Where the f* did I flip 180? You mean layabout thing? How about you open the freaking thread and read about it? Like, his post is right before mine. It convinced me; that's what this game is about isn't it? Convincing people?
Martyr post from him didn't help either.

Want solid information? What about look at the list of people who were screaming their asses off about how sure we shouldn't vote him and how sure they were that he was town? That's a start. But it would be better if he actually gave us more than a fucking four player list that says nothing. If I'm getting lynched, I(should) post a list of reads to help town look at my town-confirmed perspective after my flip. That's what every town player that realizes he will be lynched should do. VE didn't do that, which made me believe he was scum 'till the very end.


I'm not gonna take the afk excuse. i dont think its "lucky" that you got back moments before when you thought the lynch was gonna happen. I think you wanted to vote at the last second to avoid a modkill and solidify a lynch on VE.

You flipped completely 180. Yeah the games about convincing, but are your opinions really that flimsy? Take a stance. If your opinions can be changed completely in one post something going on.

That's not solid information. We don't have any idea who scum is based on his flip. So how does that help? You said "Should you flip JK, we got something solid to work from". We don't have anything solid to work from. And that quote is actually a scum tell to me. The "Should you flip JK" tone seemed like you already knew how he was going to flip. At the very least you didn't sound confident he would flip scum.

So he didn't post his reads before he died, what a jerk right? That didn't make him scum. Just because you would do something like that doesn't make you town. The point is we're back at square one, and while the people on his lynch are more likely scum than the rest, like I said to layabout, we don't know where to start.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 23:46 GMT
#900
I think the "Sorry, your case is weak. Too weak. And when a case is so weak, it is usually wrong. Food for thought." was referring to me and my case against him, marv
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 23 2012 23:57 GMT
#910
I made a case on you zeph. I don't have to do what you tell me. But I will anyways.

He was def scummy early on but he's made up for it. Probably because he was pressured by BJ. He could just be bad initially and was pushed to play better. Overall I'm neutral on him.

And how is it buddying for both players thinking the same person is scum
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 24 2012 00:03 GMT
#917
On April 24 2012 09:01 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 08:57 johnnywup wrote:
I made a case on you zeph. I don't have to do what you tell me. But I will anyways.

He was def scummy early on but he's made up for it. Probably because he was pressured by BJ. He could just be bad initially and was pushed to play better. Overall I'm neutral on him.

And how is it buddying for both players thinking the same person is scum


If two players thing the same person is scum, then this is what is happening.
a> Target is scum and both players are town
b> Target is scum and one of the players is bussing him
c> Target is town and both players are wrong
d> Target is town and one of the players is scum
e> Target is town and both players are scum

I believe d or e is happening. In either case, that means you must believe marv is town OR you both are scum. If you don't believe marv is town, then suddenly I can't possibly be scum. Ofc there is the "buss" possibility, but that would be beyond ridiculous.

?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 24 2012 00:29 GMT
#936
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=40#796
so it's been over 24hr
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