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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 17:03 GMT
#1105
Good case, I can understand your reasoning.

I just don't get it why am I under attack for not making any case or for lynching lurkers. MG had a case against johnnywup, BJ/Mememntoss against me and thats all. Lot of people suggested Sent/Zeph, marv posted about Brood and St. Daniel.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 17:04 GMT
#1106
EBWOP this was for Mementoss
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 17:15 GMT
#1107
Zephs defense was that he was afk thats why he did not contribute to d1 that much and voted that late. Why is that not lurking?

Sentinel doesnt post.

marv, you had a couple of posts today pressuring lurkers, why do you call me out for that?
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 17:20 GMT
#1109
but ghost, no one made any case but Mementoss and MG

So everyone else is scum? Or we don't have any reads because no one is suspicious enough? Thats why everyone thinking on lynching lurkers or me.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 17:30 GMT
#1111
Mementoss now I feel confused. What part did you not understand?
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 17:38 GMT
#1114
Ive already explained my first post, for the last time just for you. I wrote it's a long shot, but i felt like it can help others if they suspect someone from the VE wagon they could just look it up and investigate.

Again with this not posting anything bs. I pushed gonzaw's massvigclaim plan. I pushed VE lynch. I proposed a plan for the next two lynches.

Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 17:40 GMT
#1115
If we talk about d1 too I made 2 cases against VE, one before his claim, one after.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 17:51 GMT
#1117
Your last post

On April 25 2012 02:33 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 02:20 Ottoxlol wrote:
but ghost, no one made any case but Mementoss and MG

So everyone else is scum? Or we don't have any reads because no one is suspicious enough? Thats why everyone thinking on lynching lurkers or me.


Not everyone has pushed no reads. We're not talking about just today, we're talking about the course of the entire game. You really haven't pushed anything the whole game (Asserted WithOut Proof - AWOP). So, no. I don't think they are all scum. Just the ones who post nothing while trying to look useful.



You attack me because you say i didn't do stuff. In reply I say what I did. Your response: you don't care if I did. Ok.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 18:15 GMT
#1127
@mattchew

My first bigger post about VE http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=18#343
My vote http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14438199
After that I engaged with the debate, see my filter

@ghost I am getting frustrated, you accuse me, I respond, you do not read my posts. shall I start making up cases too?

On April 25 2012 01:51 Mementoss wrote:
Ottoxlol: A Posting History

Gonzaw plan - posts a lot about it, explains game rules on multiple occasion. Easy conversation for scum to jump on without really having any risk to put opinions on anyone. Votes VE AFTER JK claim, easy wagon for scum to jump on cause all you have to say is herp bad claim. Which is basically what ottoxlol did. Then guess what, he conveniently dissapears until VE's death and for the whole night.

Im under attack!! - posts alot, in his defense, OMGUS vots BJ, attempts to make some sort of case against people but can't. Takes the easy way out for lynching lurkers. Also wants to lynch into WIFOM "pairs" for information. Names so many people that is really impossible to see his best stance atm.

Basically its two hurricanes of posting at which seems to be convenient timing.... coincidence? Maybe. You decide.

Note - I would like to hear from more than the same old players today eventually lol. Especially the lurking players.


This is ok. clear reasoning, but all the other accusations has been answered already. Get off my back and read my posts.

Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 20:28 GMT
#1149
On April 25 2012 03:10 ghost_403 wrote:
@MIxMasterToss: I could see that. Alright, let's lynch Sentinel today, and Ottoxlol tomorrow. Sound good?


On April 25 2012 05:19 ghost_403 wrote:
Sentinel has two votes. I vote we lynch him today and Ottoxlol tomorrow. Sound good?


Sorry ghost I didn't get it, who do you want to get lynched today and tomorrow?
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 20:34 GMT
#1160
I will post as soon as I figure out. I already told you I have no clear reads so lurkers are fine with me.

Pressuring me to take a stand, then when i say i have no strong reads so right now I would lynch lurkers. And thats scummy because I dont take a stand. Or I dont have strong reads. Oh wait thats impossible, we have so good cases everyone rallied to lynch the scum of the day.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 20:41 GMT
#1167
@Sentinel

I already answered most of these accusations, read my posts.
One new point however, the one liners. When ppl doesnt reply or their accusations lack content and/or I already explained it several times why do you want a wall of text?
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 21:03 GMT
#1175
@Sentinel

Your main argument is that I did nothing and I post a lot of one liners.

I did push gonzaws plan, pressured VE, you. then after he claimed I made a case against him and defended it. D2 I had a plan, no one liked it. I have no strong reads so I don't have a case right now, but the majority of ppl doesnt have neither.

Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 21:10 GMT
#1178
8 people voted.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 21:20 GMT
#1184
I am posting actively because every hour someone comes and asks the same questions since BJ's case.

Should I retreat till I can post a case? Defending myself is the only useful thing I can do atm (something VE did not do).
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 21:28 GMT
#1186
Of course defending myself is pro-town, what is this question i don't even.

The second part is very nice of your post. Maybe I am the helicopter!
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 21:33 GMT
#1189
So you would rather have me not posting then try to prevent a misslynch?
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 21:38 GMT
#1194
I tried I came up with nothing. I posted it 10 times at least. I wouldn't get on any case just for the sake of having a case.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 24 2012 23:03 GMT
#1210
Risen
gonzaws case against him
He tried to defend VE, but with not the best tools

On April 24 2012 08:18 gonzaw wrote:
He just opposes the VE lynch for the sake of opposing it, and seems to ignore everything else that had to do with VE and VE's behaviour. It makes it seem like he wouldn't even care about VE at all and only cared about opposing his lynch.


After that he starts to rally people to other candidates (marv/bm). He explained that he did FoS these people only because they had votes on them so it would have been easier to get ahead of VE.

I think his reasoning is clear, I find him town.

BM
He doesnt post, ninja-votes. There is no real case against him because he doesn't post. I can't wrap my head around him, some say scummy, some say don't I can't really decide. If people want to lynch him I will have no objection at all.

Sentinel
He did not provide any reasoning on his vote for VE or get into the debate about it. A bit scummy. I would vote for him too

Marv.
From the beginning I felt like BJ is tunneling him too much, he answered his accusations but BJ couldn't understand them, I can relate to that. I am neutral towards him

Zephirdd
he defended himself with stating he afked, he's still not active enough, hard to judge.

Daniel
One real post, he votes BM but then promise us a case on marv and that he'll post, we are still waiting.

Brood
Two posts, he votes marv, I point out some inconsistency in his post but he did not respond. No posts, no case

johnnywup

On April 24 2012 13:12 MidnightGladius wrote:
That said, I still think that you're scum, johnny. You have zeph as your strongest scumread, but refuse to vote for him, and ask for town consensus first, when we've just started the day, and you have the most time to convince others? You have yet to actually push your own scumreads, outside of your earlier sheeping. Your unwillingness to actually put your vote where your voice is very suspicious, and I think that you're trying to gently push for a bandwagon without actually committing. This behavior is just like zeph's list earlier, which is why I'm of the opinion that you're bussing him.


I missed this case before, I think a couple of ppl too because no one really talked about this. I am feeling confident voting for johnny.

##Vote: johnnywup
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 25 2012 07:18 GMT
#1279
Zeph if u have read my posts you would know that I found yourself town, I explained it, that's why I defend you.


On April 25 2012 08:03 Ottoxlol wrote:
johnnywup

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 13:12 MidnightGladius wrote:
That said, I still think that you're scum, johnny. You have zeph as your strongest scumread, but refuse to vote for him, and ask for town consensus first, when we've just started the day, and you have the most time to convince others? You have yet to actually push your own scumreads, outside of your earlier sheeping. Your unwillingness to actually put your vote where your voice is very suspicious, and I think that you're trying to gently push for a bandwagon without actually committing. This behavior is just like zeph's list earlier, which is why I'm of the opinion that you're bussing him.


I missed this case before, I think a couple of ppl too because no one really talked about this. I am feeling confident voting for johnny.

##Vote: johnnywup


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