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On April 22 2012 09:16 BlazingJitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 09:12 PaqMan wrote:On April 22 2012 09:10 BlazingJitsu wrote:On April 22 2012 09:06 PaqMan wrote:On April 22 2012 09:02 BlazingJitsu wrote:On April 22 2012 09:00 PaqMan wrote:
@johnny why so defensive? chill out bro.
BH or BJ, whatever the hell you are. You whine way too much.
Marv hasn't done anything helpful, but neither has Bill Murray or the other 7 afk's. Ghost has done nothing to contribute as well, go read his filter.
useless townie =/= scum. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4znk4.gif) I'm gonna have to explain this? Really? Do you really not know the difference between an active player several large posts, saying nothing deliberately-- and someone NOT posting anything? My god.
-Blazinghand Several? You said so yourself, two decent sized posts. Not "several large posts". Quit getting your panties in a wad. Looks like I have to spell it out: Marv has posted several times under the pretenses of contributing. He is not an inactive player. He is lurking in plain sight. He has refused several times to present cases and scumreads. This is scummy. Are you just not very bright or what
-Blazinghand No, I just hate how you use caps and pictures so much. You're annoying. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GxTnK.gif) I'd rather be annoying than dull. Cause, well, that's you. Dull. not bright. slow. I can only assume you're intentionally NOT getting the basis of my case. The crux of the case against Marv isn't that his POST COUNT is low. It's that he's posted a lot and it's ALL WORTHLESS. ALL WORTHLESS. And there's fair amoutn of posting, too! And it's all dressed up to look like it MIGHT be useful, YET HERE WE ARE. Marv still hasn't done anything useful.
-Blazinghand
Tunnelling much?
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On April 22 2012 09:11 ghost_403 wrote:
@paqman: I really don't understand why I have to waste my time responding to this, but here it goes.
That note stems directly from your "There can't be more than 3 vigs" comment. Apparently, it's because you were paying attention to something else. Okay, that's fine, whatever. Why do you keep bringing this up? Who cares? Stop watching TV while posting, and find scum. As a town, we have better things to do than discuss why you did something dumb.
When people quit using my lack of attention as reasons for suspicion then I'll quit repeating myself. And you're right, we do have better things to discuss. Why haven't you been contributing? You're obviously not too busy, seeing as your able to respond to my questions. So what's with the lack of content?
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On April 22 2012 09:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 09:16 BlazingJitsu wrote:On April 22 2012 09:12 PaqMan wrote:On April 22 2012 09:10 BlazingJitsu wrote:On April 22 2012 09:06 PaqMan wrote:On April 22 2012 09:02 BlazingJitsu wrote:On April 22 2012 09:00 PaqMan wrote:
@johnny why so defensive? chill out bro.
BH or BJ, whatever the hell you are. You whine way too much.
Marv hasn't done anything helpful, but neither has Bill Murray or the other 7 afk's. Ghost has done nothing to contribute as well, go read his filter.
useless townie =/= scum. I'm gonna have to explain this? Really? Do you really not know the difference between an active player several large posts, saying nothing deliberately-- and someone NOT posting anything? My god.
-Blazinghand Several? You said so yourself, two decent sized posts. Not "several large posts". Quit getting your panties in a wad. Looks like I have to spell it out: Marv has posted several times under the pretenses of contributing. He is not an inactive player. He is lurking in plain sight. He has refused several times to present cases and scumreads. This is scummy. Are you just not very bright or what
-Blazinghand No, I just hate how you use caps and pictures so much. You're annoying. I'd rather be annoying than dull. Cause, well, that's you. Dull. not bright. slow. I can only assume you're intentionally NOT getting the basis of my case. The crux of the case against Marv isn't that his POST COUNT is low. It's that he's posted a lot and it's ALL WORTHLESS. ALL WORTHLESS. And there's fair amoutn of posting, too! And it's all dressed up to look like it MIGHT be useful, YET HERE WE ARE. Marv still hasn't done anything useful.
-Blazinghand Tunnelling much?
Another priceless gem from the mind of Marv! And by that I mean "wow, Marv still not useful eh"
-Blazinghand
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On April 22 2012 09:10 BlazingJitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 09:05 gonzaw wrote:
BH you too
Read sloosh's case against VE, read my case against VE and tell me to my face whether you think he's scum (and may support his lynch today) or not; and post reasoning for thinking either of them.
If marv doesn't get lynched today, who would you lynch BH? I would lynch Marv.
-Blazinghand
*sigh*
The worst thing is that you are probably town and doing this on purpose, so you'll keep doing it unless scum/vigs kill you.
I'll repeat the question again: Other than marv, who would you lynch?
Or more generally: Other than marv, who do you think is scum and why?
@ghost: You said this previously:
On April 22 2012 08:12 ghost_403 wrote:
@gonzaw: I think a town should be focused in what they do, so I don't like throwing votes around all over the place. If I had to vote for one of them right now, I would vote sentinel over VE. My only reservations about voting VE at the moment is that I think he should play a better scum game, but I can see his scumslip case as something he was hoping other townies would catch on to and run with.
So, you think VE and Sentinel are scum, yet you don't vote them.
Why isn't voting for someone you think is scum "not being focused in what a town does"?
You are not "throwing your votes around all over the place", you are voting to lynch someone you think is scum.
Also, what made you change your mind from:
On April 22 2012 07:50 ghost_403 wrote:
VE is probably scum. Accusing gonzaw of a scumslip is just terribad, and someone of his experience should know better. Also, the idea of a JK working against the town is such a fashion is WTF bad. If he was a noob, I would give him a pass, but he's not. He should know better than that.
To:
On April 22 2012 08:12 ghost_403 wrote:
My only reservations about voting VE at the moment is that I think he should play a better scum game, but I can see his scumslip case as something he was hoping other townies would catch on to and run with.
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Please read my case against him
(here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128¤tpage=12#226
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128¤tpage=17#333)
And sloosh's case against him
(here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128¤tpage=18#357 )
And post more opinions about it, or say if you agree with all the points or not.
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On April 22 2012 09:16 ghost_403 wrote:
@johnny: I did. I wanna lynch Sentinel. Wanna help me out?
I'd like to see your case. Because while I still think sentinel is fairly scummy I don't think the evidence in front of me proves anything about his alignment.
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On April 22 2012 07:50 ghost_403 wrote:@BJ + Show Spoiler + 4F doesn't deserve to die in any game. That guy was a genius at finding scum, he just didn't know it. VE is probably scum. Accusing gonzaw of a scumslip is just terribad, and someone of his experience should know better. Also, the idea of a JK working against the town is such a fashion is WTF bad. If he was a noob, I would give him a pass, but he's not. He should know better than that. Sentinel obviously rolled scum this game. His filter has nothing of content, and when layabout called him out, it took him 15 minutes to unlurk, at which point he added nothing to the conversation. He's here, but not contributing at all. I think he would make an excellent Day 1 lynch.
VE is probably scum.
Is that all you've come up with? He's probably scum, so what are you gonna do? Oh, nothing at all. lolz
Sentinel obviously rolled scum this game. His filter has nothing of content,
Hmm, sounds familiar...
He's here, but not contributing at all. I think he would make an excellent Day 1 lynch.
Are we talking about Sentinel or you?
Those points aside, you're leaning towards scum with me and you're a very hypocritical person. The things that bother me most about you is that you don't take action against those you think is scum. You don't do anything! I think you're a possible scum and if Mattchew doesn't convince me he's town then you're getting my vote 
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CAN SOMEBODY FUCKING CHECK SLOOSH'S CASE AGAINST VE?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION
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Alright.
Two things: I find VE's faux objection to gonzaw's case really scummy. It was never backed up by any convincing analysis and it was brushed over by "I don't like the plan"
Second: BH's tunnelling of me makes me despair. This is Day 1. I would really really really love to have super strong scummy cases to make on someone, but I don't. At the moment, I think sloosh's case on VE is as strong as it gets, and echos my own sentiments on how the game has played out.
There have been many more lurkers, but the only inconsistency I have found has been VE's nonsense.
##Vote: VisceraEyes
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@paqman: This is how I contribute. I find scum, I tell people they are scum, and I beat them to a pulp when they respond to me thinking they are scum. If Sentinel bothered to poke his head in the thread, I'd be beating the crap out of him at the moment. See TLM LI.
@gonzaw: I don't like everyone voting all over the place, but I can see exactly what you're saying, so I'm going to
##vote [UoN]Sentinel
because I think he's playing the scummiest at the moment. (This me not liking to vote is really something I need to get out of my usual play.) VE's disappearance from should be noted.
As far as this change of heart, I don't see it as a change of heart. Not all bad play is scummy play. What I was trying to get across there is that I think that Sentinel is the better lynch out of the two of them.
@johnny: I hate writing up cases against people. I pointed it out that I think he's scummy here. I think big posts are a waste of time and space, but that's probably why no one listens to me in these games.
brb, writing up a big poast.
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From the phone again during 21 jump street (it's actually pretty funny)
There is a large correalation between calling bh annoying and being town... Also, aside from tunneling me (I believe mostly cause I called him out) he hasn't been too scummy since my case on him.
Paq just cause i don't care for gonzaws plan doesn't mean i think he's scum.. I don't know why you insist I connect the two...
Can we please get more opinions on st Daniel kthx
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On April 22 2012 09:35 ghost_403 wrote:
As far as this change of heart, I don't see it as a change of heart. Not all bad play is scummy play. What I was trying to get across there is that I think that Sentinel is the better lynch out of the two of them.
Did you read sloosh's case then? Do you agree or not with it?
Do you think all the points he made were "bad play"? If so then please explain it more thoroughly
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St.Daniel
one post, + Show Spoiler +because thst's EXACTLY what they (scum) want.
Loved that part, i feel like only scum would have drawn that way, if VE and [UoN]Sentinel can defend themselves I will vote him.
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BIG POAST TIEM
or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Decided to Lynch Sentinel
3 posts really doesn't give you much to go on.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 21 2012 11:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Just wondering, what's the chance gonzaw's not mafia but just making an extremely retarded point?
At any rate, what I don't get is number 6. If I was GF pretending to be vig, I'd shoot as many of the other vigs as I could. And if I was JK, I'd protect those vigs who I trust to be either town vigs or some other blues.
I don't like this post. It reading this post out of context implies that everyone has already come to the conclusion that gonzaw is mafia, when that isn't at all what's happening in the thread. Up to this point, VE is the only person who's pushed this idea at all. IMO, this is him hedging his bets. I can see him allowing a gonzaw lynch, gonzaw flips green, and him saying "Called it! I'm townie!"
In addition, this is not how you discuss another posters post. Just saying "I don't agree" is not the least bit helpful to the town.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 22 2012 01:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm starting to think all of you people purposely post when I sleep
Let's do it like this - everyone just do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. If it's not beneficial in some way to town, then lynch them. If there's one thing I know, it's that voting/lynching/etc. plans always benefit mafia because they can pull them to their advantage (and also you get lynched when your plan especially sucks).
Keeping in mind with this train of thought, I will proceed to do whatever the fuck I want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. When I get back, I'll read filters and try and put more on the table.
"Hey guys, let's not work together at all!" Towns have to work together. Instead, he's encouraging anarchy, and giving himself a pass to do it.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 22 2012 01:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:42 layabout wrote:How are you feeling VE? Any thoughts on marvellosity paqman or mattchew? we need Risen to rise and get posting we need ghost 403 to de-cloak we need St.Daniel to grace us with his presence we need Janaan to get out of bed we need slOosh to stop fapping to Beethoven *we need BroodkingEXE to execute som scum for us we need Bill Murray to get his head in the game we need Zephirrd to tell you guys to stop posting shit we need layabout to stop with the puns lead us to victory Shit, should've stayed AFK. I wanted a pun too 
Worthless post, and it was posted 15 minutes after layabout's original post. I'm pretty sure Ver said something about lurkers posting exactly this way in his guide. Clearly, he's here. Clearly he's not doing anything.
At this point, Sentinel has had plenty of time to contribute something, anything, to this town, and he has not. I believe that this is not because he is busy, but because he's scum.
tl;dr - vote sentinel.
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On April 22 2012 09:42 Mattchew wrote:
From the phone again during 21 jump street (it's actually pretty funny)
There is a large correalation between calling bh annoying and being town... Also, aside from tunneling me (I believe mostly cause I called him out) he hasn't been too scummy since my case on him.
Paq just cause i don't care for gonzaws plan doesn't mean i think he's scum.. I don't know why you insist I connect the two...
Can we please get more opinions on st Daniel kthx
say wut? I said nothing about you caring for Gonzaw's plan. It's your lack of input, content, and talking that bothers the hell out of me. You blatantly refusing to participate doesn't help Town at all. You blatantly refusing to voice your opinion on such matters paints you red.
That part aside, I can't believe you're making me quote myself.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 22 2012 07:45 PaqMan wrote:
I'm not tunneling you because I was "pressured". I'm doing it because of the way you've been acting since the game has started. Scummy.
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@gonzaw: give me a minute to read the case you're referencing.
BTWs, 15 minute warning. I'm hungry.
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EBWOP: I understand that St. Daniel has done jack shit for us but now you're just trying to throw attention away from yourself. I'm pretty sure your scum buddies are going to immediately follow up on that.
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On whatever date and time johnnywup wrote:
I think [UoN] Sentinel is the scummiest and I will post a case on him in a bit.
Hold the phone. What?
On April 22 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote:
yes gonzaw i can in fact change my mind. I found my case on sentinel was subpar so i didn't post it. whats wrong with that?
So... can we have a little tidbit of it? Is my lurking in there, Mr. Wup? Because I'm a regular lurker. Sometimes I have to sleep and eat and go places where I can't exactly contribute to mafia games. This is especially apparent when there are 30 freakin' players and it's a pain in the ass to have to catch up all the time. What about the other inactives? What specifically irks you about my lurking that I have to be voted off?
On April 22 2012 08:50 johnnywup wrote:
Make it better? I think the case was bad and I didn't have enough evidence to make it a good case. So get off me. I don't care what it makes me look like. If I have a bad case and I post it and people recognize that it's bad then that's worse. I'm being perfectly transparent that my case was bad. I don't have to post anything for you.
Hell, I'll give you some points for honesty, but could you at least PM me the case? I'd like to know my charges. Let's see why Otto doesn't like me:
On April 22 2012 07:38 Ottoxlol wrote: [UoN] Sentinel had two real posts, the first + Show Spoiler +Just wondering, what's the chance gonzaw's not mafia but just making an extremely retarded point?
At any rate, what I don't get is number 6. If I was GF pretending to be vig, I'd shoot as many of the other vigs as I could. And if I was JK, I'd protect those vigs who I trust to be either town vigs or some other blues.
He doesnt know that GFs cant shoot.. Nuf said, very bad post, calling out gonzaw but not making a case against his plan
Incorrect. As GF you have this little-known thing called "kill power". This is how people tend to die at night. Now if I was GF and people claimed vig, I would be telling my scum buddies, "Hey guys, these people can shoot us. We need to kill a townie anyway, let's hit them where it counts."
+ Show Spoiler +I'm starting to think all of you people purposely post when I sleep
Let's do it like this - everyone just do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. If it's not beneficial in some way to town, then lynch them. If there's one thing I know, it's that voting/lynching/etc. plans always benefit mafia because they can pull them to their advantage (and also you get lynched when your plan especially sucks).
Keeping in mind with this train of thought, I will proceed to do whatever the fuck I want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. When I get back, I'll read filters and try and put more on the table.
I would wait till he put more on the table before we jump to conclusions, I disagree with that plans always benefiting mafia. He's talkin more in general terms, so maybe if he states his case more clearly we'll get more information. Sentinel, if you would be so kind to tell us your opinion about who's benefiting the town right now and who's not, i would like to read what do you think who should we lynch.
To be honest, at first I suspected Sloosh. This is why -
On April 22 2012 06:01 slOosh wrote:
I like Ottoxlol - his questions are pertinent.
And yes I think VisceraEyes is scum.
Posting like this is terribad. Saying you like someone kinda establishes a one-way trust bond where in this case Otto would be less likely to lynch sloosh because sloosh supports Otto, but on very, very little evidence. "His questions are pertinent". If I ask a mafia-related question to Bluelightz that's also pertinent. Means nothing.
Sloosh describes VE's anger as fearmongering, but other than that I have no problem with his argument. Which brings me to my next suspect:
On April 22 2012 09:35 ghost_403 wrote:@paqman: This is how I contribute. I find scum, I tell people they are scum, and I beat them to a pulp when they respond to me thinking they are scum. If Sentinel bothered to poke his head in the thread, I'd be beating the crap out of him at the moment. See TLM LI. @gonzaw: I don't like everyone voting all over the place, but I can see exactly what you're saying, so I'm going to ##vote [UoN]Sentinelbecause I think he's playing the scummiest at the moment. (This me not liking to vote is really something I need to get out of my usual play.) VE's disappearance from should be noted. As far as this change of heart, I don't see it as a change of heart. Not all bad play is scummy play. What I was trying to get across there is that I think that Sentinel is the better lynch out of the two of them. @johnny: I hate writing up cases against people. I pointed it out that I think he's scummy here. I think big posts are a waste of time and space, but that's probably why no one listens to me in these games. brb, writing up a big poast.
Why, why, why, why, WHY? You give absolutely nothing for my case. "I'm playing scummy." No explanation. No rationale. No logic. This argument holds so little water it could be Sahara. A good chunk of his filter deals with why I'm bad but never offers any of his own advice.
Strike two for not using the "quote" button. This makes it seem like he has something to hide, as well as pissing me off, because I (and any other observers) have to look what other people wrote and I can't read his damn filter.
Strike three because another chunk, maybe 50%, can be summarized with "Shut the hell up and help me find scum." This to me looks more threatening than old Viscera did.
##Vote: ghost_403
You all wanted me to post. Your wish has been granted.
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EBWOP: That ghost_403 post I quoted was the last thing on the forum when I wrote this post. I'll read ghost's case on me now and offer up more.
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Ok, sadly I have to go to bed and not argue like fuck against my lynch. Some thoughts
1) there is currently no opposition to my lynch. If I'm scum, apparently scum are happy for me to die
2) there is VE's inconsistent attack on gonzaw's case with absolutely no further explanation. So, my vote on VE
3) I'm usually very active. So I had a bloody social life for a day and I'm being crucified for one-liners which I've expanded upon
4) BH is tunnelling me like fuck. I can't even believe he's scum because it's just ridiculous
5) There are a bunch of inactive players who are being given an easy ride when apparently i'm easy to lynch. Why? To those who aren't BH - I had little time, and since I've done my best to explain my feelings on what I've seen. Please, if you're going to lynch me, at least demonstrate my scummy motives.
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slOosh defending me made him the number one of my suspects.
GFs dont have kp, only Goons have. You haven't read the rules or the thread
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