EPTI will try to get home before the deadline, but I can't make any promises. Any questions you want me to answer, now would be the time
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Mattchew
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I will try to get home before the deadline, but I can't make any promises. Any questions you want me to answer, now would be the time | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 05 2012 04:35 ghost_403 wrote: @sent: If we lynch him, and he was a vig, you can't be the jailkeeper, meaning we lose the game. You do realize that, right? I'm sorry what? By "him" do you mean Mattchew? To re-iterate: There is no way to tell dead vigilantes apart from dead godfathers. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 05 2012 04:50 Mattchew wrote: i am around for the next 2 hours. Then I will be playing basketball. I will try to get home before the deadline, but I can't make any promises. Any questions you want me to answer, now would be the time Same here, leaving in 2 hours as well and I'm definitely not returning until waaaaay after the deadline. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
There are only three blue roles in the game. VE flipped JK, Mementoss flipped tracker. That means that either you or Mattchew are the final blue. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 05 2012 05:00 ghost_403 wrote: :| There are only three blue roles in the game. VE flipped JK, Mementoss flipped tracker. That means that either you or Mattchew are the final blue. Ok. I think I get what you're saying. I am aware of that, and I'm the last remaining blue. The thing is, a lot of you guys are debating which one of us is the real blue. So when I'm putting evidence down to support the fact that I'm the blue, a lot of the time I'll have to compare: -If I'm the blue and Matt is the scum, asdfasdfasdf -If I'm the scum and Matt is the blue, asdfasdfadsf I'm not saying Matt is blue. I need to use hypothetics to prove that it's a whole lot more believable that I'm blue and not him. | ||
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Mattchew
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ghost_403
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ghost_403
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I can't see Sentinel fake claiming JK from Day 1 if he was scum for this exact situation. His breadcrumb is the same in this game as it was in NMM I. He played medic in that game. Unfortunately, I still think his plan is poorly thought out. Scum could have easily held their KP last night. Bill Murray has played an insane game thus far, which is unfortunately par for the course for him, meaning I'm not convinced he's confirmed scum. If Sentinel really is right, we should be lynching Mattchew today. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 05 2012 05:30 ghost_403 wrote: I think Mattchew is scum. I can't see Sentinel fake claiming JK from Day 1 if he was scum for this exact situation. His breadcrumb is the same in this game as it was in NMM I. He played medic in that game. Unfortunately, I still think his plan is poorly thought out. Scum could have easily held their KP last night. Bill Murray has played an insane game thus far, which is unfortunately par for the course for him, meaning I'm not convinced he's confirmed scum. If Sentinel really is right, we should be lynching Mattchew today. I'm not paid enough to think things out. Anyways, here's another fun little breadcrumb I did to be consistent with the WTF I did in Normal Mini. It reads "oh shit" because people began suspecting me at that time. + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: (quote) On whatever date and time johnnywup wrote: //I wrote this bit manually I think [UoN] Sentinel is the scummiest and I will post a case on him in a bit. (/quote) Hold the phone. What? So... can we have a little tidbit of it? Is my lurking in there, Mr. Wup? Because I'm a regular lurker. Sometimes I have to sleep and eat and go places where I can't exactly contribute to mafia games. This is especially apparent when there are 30 freakin' players and it's a pain in the ass to have to catch up all the time. What about the other inactives? What specifically irks you about my lurking that I have to be voted off? Hell, I'll give you some points for honesty, but could you at least PM me the case? I'd like to know my charges. Let's see why Otto doesn't like me: Incorrect. As GF you have this little-known thing called "kill power". This is how people tend to die at night. Now if I was GF and people claimed vig, I would be telling my scum buddies, "Hey guys, these people can shoot us. We need to kill a townie anyway, let's hit them where it counts." To be honest, at first I suspected Sloosh. This is why - | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
this game has a shade of similarity to im a cop you idiot, because the set number of blues makes a scum counterclaim seemingly inevitable | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 05 2012 05:39 Mattchew wrote: You realize how easy it is to breadcrumb, and then use it to counterclaim or not use it at all? this game has a shade of similarity to im a cop you idiot, because the set number of blues makes a scum counterclaim seemingly inevitable My breadcrumbs are a work of art  | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
The mere fact you know this shows that they are meaningless towards alignment. Votes should be based on content of play, not on breadcrumbs Ghost you said you were pouring over the filters, and your only reason ends up being breadcrumbs. Thats weird | ||
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johnnywup
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[UoN]Sentinel
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On May 05 2012 05:55 johnnywup wrote: sentinel do you realize it doesnt matter what he flips? there is no tomorrow. if he flips vig and we don't lose he's scum, if he flips scum and we lose then hes vig. it doesnt matter what he flips anymore. it's not wifom at this point post death: its endgame This is true. When he flips scum it's 5-2, which becomes 4-2 if I can't block the shot. I gotta go take a shower and eat, when I return I'll have come up with a plan of action. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On May 04 2012 18:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: JK not jailing Day 1 was my fault. Bad town play. I can't put it any other way, and Day 1 was a clusterfuck for me because I was legitimately busy. And yes by vig I mean GF. Paq, you're a moron, but I'm willing to deal with that. Or... I can jail BM. A no-lynch means there's a 100% chance we'll go into Day 6. It'll be 4-3 if mafia can get their kill off. I'm a moron, but you're a liar. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128¤tpage=110#2181 Sent lied about being "too busy" to send in a order. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
In this game, there was really only one thing that stood out in Mattchew's filter. That fact was the fact that he spent a lot of the first two or three days directing the vigilante. If he really was the vig, why didn't he shoot earlier? He tells the town plenty of people to shoot, but never does until Night 3. He shot Risen for the scummy behavior that happend Day 2, no less. The wait here is also curious. Meanwhile, Sentinel has been playing more or less useless throughout the entire game. His cases are uninspired and shallow, and don't get too deep into player analysis. However, I have found that this is consistent with his play in other games. He's simply not super aggressive with his cases overall, which is unfortunately indistinguishable from scummy play. Fun fact: my legion is not cap stable running the rep (shitty skills) and just lost it in a totally avoidalbe fashion. Fuck my life. brb, Eve emergency. | ||
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ghost_403
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Mattchew
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On May 05 2012 06:12 ghost_403 wrote: In this game, there was really only one thing that stood out in Mattchew's filter. That fact was the fact that he spent a lot of the first two or three days directing the vigilante. If he really was the vig, why didn't he shoot earlier? He tells the town plenty of people to shoot, but never does until Night 3. He shot Risen for the scummy behavior that happend Day 2, no less. The wait here is also curious. I treated me being a vig in this game as if I was a 1 shot detective, because even if I hit scum, there was only a 50% chance of actually killing them. This is why I waited on using my shot, and also if mementoss was a JK and I shot who he jailed that would screw up everything as well. My reason for shooting risen was to (in my mind) confirm 2 players, (ottox and risen) as either scum or town. Turns out I played like an idiot and figured Risen being scum = Ottox being scum. Also, I waited on claiming because ottox was being lynched and my claim would just support this lynch. I wanted to make scum uncomfortable knowing that someone had shot Risen and them needing to act on this. Sent's roleclaim is actually really smart cause he can say that he jailed ottox, and then get town cred for ottox not flipping goon (or scum at all). I think I actually found some Risen breadcrumbing Vig, and I would bet the third member breadcrumbed something as well (maybe tracker or jk too). What could be Risen breadcrumbs + Show Spoiler + On April 23 2012 07:09 Risen wrote: No you twat. I'm not voting johnnywup because I'm not an idiot who thinks we can organize idiot townies like you onto him with so little time left. I'm forced to pick from a small pool of people who we can get votes on. I'm very intense, god... Don't know why I even came back to this. I'm just getting heated again and I'm going to get banned. and On April 26 2012 07:58 Risen wrote: EBWOP: See the deadline is in an hour. How many people do we really have that can vote right now? I just noticed stdaniel's ninja vote. I'm trying to figure out if he just quit the game and is doing the bare minimum to avoid modkill or he's just being lurker scum. To me it almost doesn't matter, though. I mean, very ill great... but he doesn't sound like he's ill anymore. I can't stand lurkers and I'm 100% willing to lynch him tomorrow. They're useless and we can't afford people lurking at this point. This applies to BKExe as well, though he didn't lurk vote so +1 for you big guy. If by day 3 your filter isn't filling 2 pages something is wrong. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On May 05 2012 06:10 PaqMan wrote: I'm a moron, but you're a liar. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128¤tpage=110#2181 Sent lied about being "too busy" to send in a order. To quote, "2 posts". Compared to the eight I've already posted today in three hours' time. A bit of WIFOM for you: Now if I were scum, why would I lie about being busy? I could just say I jailed some random-ass townie who didn't get killed but still looks like a plausible jail target. Anyways, I can't really poke a hole in johnny's plan. Mattchew it is. ##unvote: Bill Murray ##vote: Mattchew | ||
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Mattchew
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