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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 20 2012 00:02 GMT
#1041
On April 20 2012 08:56 ArcticFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 08:55 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:51 sandroba wrote:
lol seriously? How in hell you guys don't lynch into the DT or DT check?
It's lylo and you trade 1 out of 2 for 2 out of 6. Really guys, this should be basic math.


I'm also quite baffled as to why I was lynched in the end... And I still can't believe Willz was town! How in the... His play was SO scummy it had no bounds.

I agree. I had willz as scum right up until yomi made the switch off of Dittert. Then I was like "fuuuuuuck. it's KB + yomi + allin. fuuuuuuuck."

Willz was like 4th scum with his play though. It just made no sense. WHY was the vote between KB/Xatalos instead of KB/Dittert? ONE of those two had to be scum, no way town would claim vs. town there.


I should have seen the signs when suddenly KharadBanar and imallinson voted for me out of nowhere. At first I thought KharadBanar was in some huge trap of illogical thinking, but the more he posted, the less I started to trust him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
April 20 2012 00:04 GMT
#1042
On April 20 2012 09:02 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 08:56 ArcticFox wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:55 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:51 sandroba wrote:
lol seriously? How in hell you guys don't lynch into the DT or DT check?
It's lylo and you trade 1 out of 2 for 2 out of 6. Really guys, this should be basic math.


I'm also quite baffled as to why I was lynched in the end... And I still can't believe Willz was town! How in the... His play was SO scummy it had no bounds.

I agree. I had willz as scum right up until yomi made the switch off of Dittert. Then I was like "fuuuuuuck. it's KB + yomi + allin. fuuuuuuuck."

Willz was like 4th scum with his play though. It just made no sense. WHY was the vote between KB/Xatalos instead of KB/Dittert? ONE of those two had to be scum, no way town would claim vs. town there.


I should have seen the signs when suddenly KharadBanar and imallinson voted for me out of nowhere. At first I thought KharadBanar was in some huge trap of illogical thinking, but the more he posted, the less I started to trust him.

Like I said in ObsQT, Dittert didn't make it exactly easy to believe he was town with his posting. If it had been like...func who said it, or even vK, town would have just insta-lynched KB without a second thought.

But with that logic, if you think for a few minutes, it has to be an either/or between Dittert/KB. Either Dittert's fakeclaiming or he's not. Then it makes 0 sense for mafia to fakeclaim there and the rest of his QT wouldn't let him do it. It's an easy KB lynch.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 20 2012 00:04 GMT
#1043
On April 20 2012 08:59 Seviro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 08:57 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:55 sandroba wrote:
Also the dude who has a guilty check on him is not voting for the DT who checked him in lylo. That should tell you something.


Indeed... I can see it now. I should have figured it out immediately, but I was so convinced KharadBanar was town, I didn't even consider him until it was too obvious.


That is what most of you made this day, your conviction were so strong that you got blinded and the DT being DIttert, one of the most scummy of the game until this point it was hard to take an outside look and think clearly.

Well this game have been interesting to obs to say the least :D


edit: Also SHAMELESS PLUG, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329508 3 more slot to fill gogo.


I'd want to play, but I have entrance exams to university coming up and after that, mandatory military service See you all sometime later though, this has been a ton of fun!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 20 2012 00:06 GMT
#1044
I come back after my function and you guys lynched xat?

Aparently I missed where he claimed Balrog, Demon of Morgoth, Assassinating Survivor
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 20 2012 00:06 GMT
#1045
Anyway when i get done with the rest of the stuff I have to do I'll answer questions people have, though you can already find my thoughts in the Obs QT.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 20 2012 00:07 GMT
#1046
On April 20 2012 09:04 ArcticFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 09:02 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:56 ArcticFox wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:55 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:51 sandroba wrote:
lol seriously? How in hell you guys don't lynch into the DT or DT check?
It's lylo and you trade 1 out of 2 for 2 out of 6. Really guys, this should be basic math.


I'm also quite baffled as to why I was lynched in the end... And I still can't believe Willz was town! How in the... His play was SO scummy it had no bounds.

I agree. I had willz as scum right up until yomi made the switch off of Dittert. Then I was like "fuuuuuuck. it's KB + yomi + allin. fuuuuuuuck."

Willz was like 4th scum with his play though. It just made no sense. WHY was the vote between KB/Xatalos instead of KB/Dittert? ONE of those two had to be scum, no way town would claim vs. town there.


I should have seen the signs when suddenly KharadBanar and imallinson voted for me out of nowhere. At first I thought KharadBanar was in some huge trap of illogical thinking, but the more he posted, the less I started to trust him.

Like I said in ObsQT, Dittert didn't make it exactly easy to believe he was town with his posting. If it had been like...func who said it, or even vK, town would have just insta-lynched KB without a second thought.

But with that logic, if you think for a few minutes, it has to be an either/or between Dittert/KB. Either Dittert's fakeclaiming or he's not. Then it makes 0 sense for mafia to fakeclaim there and the rest of his QT wouldn't let him do it. It's an easy KB lynch.


Yeah... It seems like Dittert's strategy was to make himself too suspicious to be shot at night, but it backfired hard, since nobody trusted him anymore.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 20 2012 00:08 GMT
#1047
On April 20 2012 09:06 GreYMisT wrote:
I come back after my function and you guys lynched xat?

Aparently I missed where he claimed Balrog, Demon of Morgoth, Assassinating Survivor


Haha, what is that supposed to mean?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
April 20 2012 00:08 GMT
#1048
I believe I ended with 290 mafiabucks, which was the highest total. Seviro called the same scum team 10 minutes earlier.

Hiro bet on the same scum team and should have 200 total.
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
April 20 2012 00:10 GMT
#1049
On April 20 2012 09:07 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 09:04 ArcticFox wrote:
On April 20 2012 09:02 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:56 ArcticFox wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:55 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:51 sandroba wrote:
lol seriously? How in hell you guys don't lynch into the DT or DT check?
It's lylo and you trade 1 out of 2 for 2 out of 6. Really guys, this should be basic math.


I'm also quite baffled as to why I was lynched in the end... And I still can't believe Willz was town! How in the... His play was SO scummy it had no bounds.

I agree. I had willz as scum right up until yomi made the switch off of Dittert. Then I was like "fuuuuuuck. it's KB + yomi + allin. fuuuuuuuck."

Willz was like 4th scum with his play though. It just made no sense. WHY was the vote between KB/Xatalos instead of KB/Dittert? ONE of those two had to be scum, no way town would claim vs. town there.


I should have seen the signs when suddenly KharadBanar and imallinson voted for me out of nowhere. At first I thought KharadBanar was in some huge trap of illogical thinking, but the more he posted, the less I started to trust him.

Like I said in ObsQT, Dittert didn't make it exactly easy to believe he was town with his posting. If it had been like...func who said it, or even vK, town would have just insta-lynched KB without a second thought.

But with that logic, if you think for a few minutes, it has to be an either/or between Dittert/KB. Either Dittert's fakeclaiming or he's not. Then it makes 0 sense for mafia to fakeclaim there and the rest of his QT wouldn't let him do it. It's an easy KB lynch.


Yeah... It seems like Dittert's strategy was to make himself too suspicious to be shot at night, but it backfired hard, since nobody trusted him anymore.

To be fair, until like 12 hours ago I had you pegged as scum too, so I'm not too great at my reading yet. XD
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 20 2012 00:12 GMT
#1050
On April 20 2012 09:10 ArcticFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 09:07 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 09:04 ArcticFox wrote:
On April 20 2012 09:02 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:56 ArcticFox wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:55 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:51 sandroba wrote:
lol seriously? How in hell you guys don't lynch into the DT or DT check?
It's lylo and you trade 1 out of 2 for 2 out of 6. Really guys, this should be basic math.


I'm also quite baffled as to why I was lynched in the end... And I still can't believe Willz was town! How in the... His play was SO scummy it had no bounds.

I agree. I had willz as scum right up until yomi made the switch off of Dittert. Then I was like "fuuuuuuck. it's KB + yomi + allin. fuuuuuuuck."

Willz was like 4th scum with his play though. It just made no sense. WHY was the vote between KB/Xatalos instead of KB/Dittert? ONE of those two had to be scum, no way town would claim vs. town there.


I should have seen the signs when suddenly KharadBanar and imallinson voted for me out of nowhere. At first I thought KharadBanar was in some huge trap of illogical thinking, but the more he posted, the less I started to trust him.

Like I said in ObsQT, Dittert didn't make it exactly easy to believe he was town with his posting. If it had been like...func who said it, or even vK, town would have just insta-lynched KB without a second thought.

But with that logic, if you think for a few minutes, it has to be an either/or between Dittert/KB. Either Dittert's fakeclaiming or he's not. Then it makes 0 sense for mafia to fakeclaim there and the rest of his QT wouldn't let him do it. It's an easy KB lynch.


Yeah... It seems like Dittert's strategy was to make himself too suspicious to be shot at night, but it backfired hard, since nobody trusted him anymore.

To be fair, until like 12 hours ago I had you pegged as scum too, so I'm not too great at my reading yet. XD


When did you come to the conclusion I would be Mafia? And how did you figure out I was actually town?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 20 2012 00:14 GMT
#1051
On April 20 2012 09:08 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 09:06 GreYMisT wrote:
I come back after my function and you guys lynched xat?

Aparently I missed where he claimed Balrog, Demon of Morgoth, Assassinating Survivor


Haha, what is that supposed to mean?

It's a LotR Mafia reference, where iGrok claimed that role and I couldn't get town to lynch him. They lynched jackal instead.
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
April 20 2012 00:14 GMT
#1052
On April 20 2012 09:12 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 09:10 ArcticFox wrote:
On April 20 2012 09:07 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 09:04 ArcticFox wrote:
On April 20 2012 09:02 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:56 ArcticFox wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:55 Xatalos wrote:
On April 20 2012 08:51 sandroba wrote:
lol seriously? How in hell you guys don't lynch into the DT or DT check?
It's lylo and you trade 1 out of 2 for 2 out of 6. Really guys, this should be basic math.


I'm also quite baffled as to why I was lynched in the end... And I still can't believe Willz was town! How in the... His play was SO scummy it had no bounds.

I agree. I had willz as scum right up until yomi made the switch off of Dittert. Then I was like "fuuuuuuck. it's KB + yomi + allin. fuuuuuuuck."

Willz was like 4th scum with his play though. It just made no sense. WHY was the vote between KB/Xatalos instead of KB/Dittert? ONE of those two had to be scum, no way town would claim vs. town there.


I should have seen the signs when suddenly KharadBanar and imallinson voted for me out of nowhere. At first I thought KharadBanar was in some huge trap of illogical thinking, but the more he posted, the less I started to trust him.

Like I said in ObsQT, Dittert didn't make it exactly easy to believe he was town with his posting. If it had been like...func who said it, or even vK, town would have just insta-lynched KB without a second thought.

But with that logic, if you think for a few minutes, it has to be an either/or between Dittert/KB. Either Dittert's fakeclaiming or he's not. Then it makes 0 sense for mafia to fakeclaim there and the rest of his QT wouldn't let him do it. It's an easy KB lynch.


Yeah... It seems like Dittert's strategy was to make himself too suspicious to be shot at night, but it backfired hard, since nobody trusted him anymore.

To be fair, until like 12 hours ago I had you pegged as scum too, so I'm not too great at my reading yet. XD


When did you come to the conclusion I would be Mafia? And how did you figure out I was actually town?

Inexperience mostly. What I was reading as "wild logic and random accusations" was just active townie behavior. I came to my senses when Matt set me straight for like the 4th time that I should be looking for motivations, and not tunneling on perceived scumslips. When I re-read your filter today, it finally all clicked together.

Never clicked for me on willz though. willz play had me confused all fucking game.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 20 2012 00:16 GMT
#1053
On April 20 2012 09:08 jaj22 wrote:
I believe I ended with 290 mafiabucks, which was the highest total. Seviro called the same scum team 10 minutes earlier.

Hiro bet on the same scum team and should have 200 total.

Then you win the bonus prize of 1000 more Theoretical Mafia Bucks! Congratulations, jaj22, for walking away today with 1290 Theoretical Mafia Bucks, the highest (and only) total I've ever seen!
KharadBanar
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria463 Posts
April 20 2012 00:16 GMT
#1054
Thank you to all the players in that game for making it so amazing for scum

And huge thanks to GreYMisT for hosting this! Your Aperture Mafia game was the one that got me into playing Mafia here on TL in the first place, and I would like to continue to do so.

##Donate 100 TMB GreYMisT
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 20 2012 00:17 GMT
#1055
On April 20 2012 09:16 KharadBanar wrote:
Thank you to all the players in that game for making it so amazing for scum

And huge thanks to GreYMisT for hosting this! Your Aperture Mafia game was the one that got me into playing Mafia here on TL in the first place, and I would like to continue to do so.

##Donate 100 TMB GreYMisT

ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
April 20 2012 00:17 GMT
#1056
On April 20 2012 09:16 KharadBanar wrote:
Thank you to all the players in that game for making it so amazing for scum

And huge thanks to GreYMisT for hosting this! Your Aperture Mafia game was the one that got me into playing Mafia here on TL in the first place, and I would like to continue to do so.

##Donate 100 TMB GreYMisT

You'll be amused KB that Hiro protected you N1, that's how the shot got through on me. He had acrofales read as scum.
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 00:20:24
April 20 2012 00:19 GMT
#1057
On April 20 2012 09:17 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 09:16 KharadBanar wrote:
Thank you to all the players in that game for making it so amazing for scum

And huge thanks to GreYMisT for hosting this! Your Aperture Mafia game was the one that got me into playing Mafia here on TL in the first place, and I would like to continue to do so.

##Donate 100 TMB GreYMisT


##Donate 100 Snarfs

<3
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 20 2012 00:27 GMT
#1058
I would like to say that Snarfs did a terrific job cohosting this. I was less available than I like to be, but he was there to pick up the slack

A+
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
April 20 2012 00:28 GMT
#1059
Oh hey, I nailed that N1 Xatalos framer theory too (imallinson thought Hiro was DT), along with Dittert's ArcticFox check.

A surprising proportion of the ObsQT thought Xatalos was scum for a long time. I felt quite alone for a while
Seviro
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada98 Posts
April 20 2012 00:28 GMT
#1060
There was a framer after all so Dittert made the right choice of not checking an obvious target, he got lucky to check a scmu tho but unfortunately no one believed him
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