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GMarshal
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On April 12 2012 23:23 chaoser wrote: does anyone know why RoL is temp banned? did he request it? Yeah, he said he needed some time off. He'll be back I'm sure. | ||
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I'm saying this now. I will not get on a general IRC channel, I'll answer your PMs only if they are highly interesting or if I am very bored. I'll be playing in the thread pretty much exclusively. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/17/16fafdb041ed42acb6ca4ff06ef8e6b8/l.jpg) The bird of Hermes is my name. Eating my wings to make me tame. Does rule #3 apply to images used to break text in long analysis posts or that included for fluffy reasons? | ||
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On April 13 2012 10:05 chaoser wrote: Have you ever actually won mayor and then hit scum day one? Not on TL. But I've never won a mayorship on TL before. | ||
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On April 13 2012 10:10 Coagulation wrote: LIES. GMARSH WAS MAYOR IN BROWNBEARS GAME. Pardoner. Not mayor. | ||
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^_^ | ||
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morris.john19 on skype. Also, vote me for mayor, because I won't eject you from an airlock without a wall of text proving you are scum! | ||
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On April 14 2012 00:00 Maverick32x wrote: I would like our future captain to be Democratic in their Lynch... This makes it alot less likely for the power to be abused by Mafia.. Because towns are so excellent at picking who to lynch day 1, unless bullied by a strong personality... I don't want a democratic leader who can lynch whoever the masses say and then shrug his shoulders and say "oops, he was town, not my fault I did what you guys said!". I want a captain who is going to lynch his strongest day 1 scum read, and then take responsibility for the result, one way or another. Transparency is overrated, you keep the town on a need to know basis, especially in a PM game. Come on people, has no one here read Ver's guide after the debacle of Death Factory Mafia 2? I'll be transparent in my decisions, but I'll be damned if I'm going to share everything I know or learn for the sake of "transparency" Tell me MrZentor, say being captian made you into an Anti Scum Paranoid Gun owner, would you share it with the town for the sake of "transparency", thus sacrificing the power of the role? | ||
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On April 14 2012 00:11 Maverick32x wrote: And one person who goes off their day 1 reads is better? So if they Lynch a townie they can just shrug their shoulders? A Democratic approach allows us to view everyone's scum hunting ability.. not just the captain.. Yes, yes it is, because we all still have to tell him who we would like to see lynched. If they lynch a townie, they have a ton of pressure on them, since they made a bad call, and we can dismantle their reasoning. Everyone still has to scumhunt and try to present a case that the captian is going to see and say "fuck, he's right", but that way we don't have scum lynching an easy target who everyone agrees "is acting scummy" with no consequences. | ||
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On April 14 2012 00:15 EchelonTee wrote: got classes all day, following thread though. GMarshal who would you lynch? If you have an inkling after ~5-7 pgs Right now? VayeshMoru has done squat, and has only trolled, good lynch on the basis of taking out the trash. Once the mayoral candidates have solidified, probably one of those, since scum are very likely to try to run, especially if they don't know what other bonuses the captain might get. On April 14 2012 00:17 MrZentor wrote: GM, I would say that the power is only useful if the scum doesn't know about it. I would then ask people to vote on if I should reveal it. I would follow the peoples' decision. Acrofales, any read you have this early in the game is bound to be inaccurate, so it would be better to vote for the person who would be least damaging as scum, instead of how you are currently voting. So, you aren't going to take responsibility for anything? I don't want you near the captains seat. Also you are fear-mongering, by that argument, we would have to lynch Ace day 1 every game he plays in as he is terribly damaging as scum, much more than what he contributes as town! Its a stupid argument, so don't make it, this game isn't about "reducing damage" its about getting scum lynched, and your method currently sucks for getting scum. | ||
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On April 14 2012 00:29 MrZentor wrote: I will kill somebody besides who the people voted for if I am sure he is scum. I expect to be killed if I am wrong, so I will be very careful in disregarding the votes of the people. If you read my post carefully, I say it would be a better method than what Acrofales is using. It's a pretty retarded method, so what does that say about what Acrofales is doing? Voting for his strongest town-read to mayor isn't retarded, especially because like other mayor roles its to be expected that the captian will have some kind of protection from night kills. Also, elected scum are never going to lynch scum, so you need a pretty good certainty that the guy you elect is town. Unless you are referring to something else? Also, why are you backtracking now? You said you would be purely democratic, yet now you say "unless the circumstances are appropriate", are you changing your stance to try to get more votes or to appease me? | ||
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On April 14 2012 01:12 MrZentor wrote: A medic didn't protect you; a jailor jailed you. You guys were being inactive, voting for people without reasons, and expecting that to be okay, because you guys were "vets". I don't regret shooting you. Lets have a little hypothetical scenario. You have to shoot someone in the game right now. Who and why? | ||
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On April 14 2012 01:18 Ace wrote: Hey people - stop roleclaiming to each other so fast. Ace, you aren't interested in being captian? | ||
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On April 14 2012 05:01 strongandbig wrote: Just a quick question - GMarshal and Sandroba, why are you voting for each other instead of yourselves? Do you not care which of you gets the captaincy? Its not gentlemanly to vote for yourself. | ||
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On April 14 2012 05:11 risk.nuke wrote: Can we set up an IRC for this game? On April 13 2012 10:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: RULE CLARIFICATION: Private communication can only be done via PM or an instant messenger client (such as skype). You can not communicate with other players through IRC or quicktopic unless you are told to by the mod. You can not communicate anonymously. | ||
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On April 14 2012 06:14 wherebugsgo wrote: GM: I will not consider voting you unless you talk to me in PMs. In fact I will automatically consider you to be scum until we talk. ##vote sandroba You PM me ^_^ | ||
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On April 14 2012 06:38 wherebugsgo wrote: I did already -_- Must have gotten lost in all the hate spam I get. :-P Will get back to you | ||
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On April 14 2012 06:56 froggynoddy wrote: Ok, sorry for lack of activity, built a mobile donkey shelter and then went to restaurant... too much Cognac. Back to the game: Comparing campaigners content, I would like to vote for GM. He makes by far the most sense out of all those running for mayor. He isn't gimicky, he isnt super pro PM-ing (which admittedly has its uses late game, but seems to confuse the hell out of stuff early game), and his stance regarding 'enlightened despot' vs 'democrat' appeals to me. What I don't like is his vote on Sandroba. Similarlyto the premise 'push a lynch that you believe will most likely result in scum flip', our votes for Mayor should be 'who you think is most likely to summarily execute scum'. So my question to you (GM) is this: You don't know that Sandroba is town, if you are town then you know for sure that you are town, threrfore you are most likely to find scum. Therefore why vote for Sandroba unless he's your scumbuddy, I don't get it  .Because sandro is my strongest town read ^_^ Also I hardly ever vote for myself in elections, its not respectable. Its not a matter of logic, its a simple matter of if I can vote for the guy running against me and he votes for me, its the same net result, but its much more elegant. Is it stupid? Probably. I'm going to do it anyway. | ||
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On April 14 2012 07:41 Jackal58 wrote: If you don't believe you're the best candidate why the hell should anybody else? I do believe I'm the best candidate, I just don't vote for myself. (unless it looks like scum might win) | ||
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On April 14 2012 07:56 Jackal58 wrote: No, I do know a couple of people who are reasonably town and a couple who are leaning scum though. And you have a list of all the scum candidates in front of you? I've done this pretty much every game I've run for any kind of position, you should be aware of this jackal. Any solid reads yet, by the way? | ||
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On April 14 2012 14:16 Sinensis wrote: I would rather randomly elect a captain than trust the people around me with votes. We could use inca vs nestea results as the seed value in a random number generator? (possible seed values if we use a bo3 SC match are 03, 30, 13, 31, 23, 32) This is stupid and means no one has to commit to any reads as far as electing a captain goes, everything can be blamed on the rng, up to and including the very stupid lynch that will happen when an easily swayed player gets the captaincy. On April 14 2012 10:30 Ace wrote: GMarshal what are these plans you're talking about in PM land? Nothing that the thread needs to know about. Loose lips sink towns and all that. Nothing convoluted or involving everyone claiming to me. Many many traps for stupid scum. Nothing for you to worry about. On April 14 2012 08:30 Node wrote: GM, I'm curious about your stance on sandroba's rolefishing. I find it interesting that he's your strongest town read, but you would rather place yourself in the potentially protected role of captain when it seems he's ending up with a copious amount of delicate information -- which I assume you support, since it apparently isn't affecting your town read. My read isn't affected by sandrobas "rolefishing" no. Lets just say I understand why he is doing what he is doing, even if its not the style I like to play. Remember, setups like this are most easaly broken by a mass private claim to a almost certain, or confirmed townie. Of course you need to think that sandroba is an almost certain townie to follow his plan. People I'm thinking of lynching right now: Node: Node is sitting at that wonderful threshold of activity where he isn't quite a lurker, but isn't exactly a contributing member. This is exactly where scum like to sit. l10f- He's a writer! Death to all pens! Actually, he is more of a lurker, what bothers me is that his obligatory "chime in" post is a non-commital rehash of what Ace said. His suggestion that mafia would bus each other to get the capitancy is kind of stupid. froggynoddy This guy has the strongest case against him tight now, he has a couple tell tale signs that point him out as newbie scum On April 14 2012 06:56 froggynoddy wrote: Ok, sorry for lack of activity, built a mobile donkey shelter and then went to restaurant... too much Cognac. Back to the game: You don't know that Sandroba is town, if you are town then you know for sure that you are town, threrfore you are most likely to find scum. Therefore why vote for Sandroba unless he's your scumbuddy, I don't get it .Two things in this post 1.) Apologizing for something that needs no apology. This is a sign of a guilty conscience much like what gave up Misder in Ver's XXX analysis. I did this all the time as the mole in PYP:Interesting, and Radfeild caught me out on it, so I'm always attentively looking for this kind of unnecessary apology. 2.) His issue with me trusting sandroba. This is typical of scum trying to subvert trust. "Why would you trust him OMG!" is the typical scum response to fast, uncontrollable circles of trust forming, and is basically how they express frustration while trying to discredit them in the thread. On April 14 2012 18:16 froggynoddy wrote: I don't see the Sandroba town thing, plus surely at this early stage the only town read that could be described as in any way strong is yourself. Also we should vote for the person who least wants the captaincy, far more likely to be town imo. ##Vote Ace Again, we see him actively discrediting town reads, which are actually vitally important in PM games as well as an excellent tool for weeding out scum. Look at his posts, most are focused on discrediting sandroba, without once calling him scum, its basically "I don't see how people trust him" not "he could be scum guys". Subtley his wording gives away that he knows sandroba is town, and is both angry and clueless as to how others without privileged information have discovered the same thing. | ||
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On April 15 2012 04:23 chaoser wrote: also...where is GM... On my phone, out and about. Can't exactly write huge posts. | ||
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Sure thing ^_^ | ||
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Missed the last six hours of yesterday sitting in an emergency room worrying about whether or not I would lose my right eye, so sorry I didn't update, I had other things on my mind. (Including agonizing pain, what fun!) Will explain more when I get back from my optometrist appointment. I have at least one game changing revelation. | ||
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Someone wanted I picture I think, so here you go + Show Spoiler [pic] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rPwKV.png) Explaining the froggy lynch. I submitted it to Dr.H about the same time I left the thread (after promising chaoser a skype date) and I decided to leave froggy as my "contingency" lynch because I had provided some form of explanation. If I didn't make it back it had more behind it that say a l10f lynch. The plan was simply to leave for a few hours, see the reactions to the case, and find a better lynch target. I obviously didn't make it back to change it, so thats what you guys got. No apologies about that. Screen glare is making me tear up so I'll post more when the dilation wears off in a couple hours. | ||
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Sandroba will be here soon with a game changing revelation. Stay tuned. | ||
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This is not my week. | ||
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