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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 07:05 GMT
#1141
On April 11 2012 16:02 Katina wrote:
Yay! People have finally realized!

##Vote: Toadesstern

What in the fuck?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 11 2012 07:07 GMT
#1142
what the hell is Katina scum too?

##unvote

##vote VisceraEyes


Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 11 2012 07:07 GMT
#1143
On April 11 2012 16:02 Katina wrote:
Yay! People have finally realized!

##Vote: Toadesstern


Can't tell if you're mocking me >.>

Me earlier
I really think we'd hit scum if we lynched one of these guys. sputnik, johnnywup, katina, michaelthe, zelblade, VE.

Well I'm 0/2 so far. VE I'm hoping you make me 1/3
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 11 2012 07:07 GMT
#1144
That was one hell of a wall of text. Read it all, and makes perfect sense. Although I think too much of it was defending yourself, I definitely agree with the parts that you did scumhunt in.

On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:[...]Secondly, I'm more confident that Toad will flip scum now especially given his OMGUS reaction to my vote on him today...so in spite of me saying that I could be convinced to switch to Hassy earlier, you can pretty much seal that with a kiss and send it home to mama.



What? His response was no where near OMGUS. If this solidifies your vote on him, I'll just have to vote for you as well I TRUSTED YOU VE.



##vote VisceraEyes

VE is acting way different than the other games I've played with him, which he was town in. That may not be a reason to vote for him in and of itself, but with Toad's argument I think it's a solid vote.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 11 2012 07:09 GMT
#1145
On April 11 2012 15:55 Toadesstern wrote:
I never mentioned ST because I never was sure about his alignment because I never played with him and to me he belonged into the masses of those unreadable lurkers.
I barely mentioned Janaan because I never was sure about his alignment because I never played with him and to me he belonged into the masses of those unreadable lurkers.

I don't ever mention other scummy lurkers because I never was sure about their alignment because I never played with them and to me they] belonged into the masses of those unreadable lurkers.


...so?

They already had controversial posts and cases against them flying around, and you didn't even find the time to post "Sorry I am not sure about their alignment and the cases against them don't convince me because of X and Y, I still think ghost/Hassy/VE is scum so I'm pushing them" at least?


About the very last question. Here's what I learned in big games from L. It's no use if you figure out every single mafia and tell everyone who those guys are if noone is listening. If there's already some vets around pushing the right buttons don't shit up the thread with the 1851851th case the thread has to see but join forces with the guy who can make people do what's right in your opinion. People are more likely to follow vets than a rnd guy who might or might not be right with his reads. Not to mention that they're trusting them more.


How about you stop dodging my questions?
You didn't participate about anything that happened in the thread, it's not about "figuring out every single mafia"; it's about trying to create a good town atmosphere, letting other people know you are town by being transparent and commenting on things that happen, and to interact with more people so you can find clues about who else is mafia (while you can still pursue the lynch of your choice), and to give good advice to other townies so they can perfect their reads as well.

If there's already some vets around pushing the right buttons don't shit up the thread with the 1851851th case the thread has to see but join forces with the guy who can make people do what's right in your opinion


Wouldn't you call your case against ghost the "1851851th case the thread has to see" then?

I can't see how you could possibly say I am not caring about the game after that post. I stoped writing more because it was already the biggest post I did BY FAR and people are complaining about me writing to much.
And honestly I still am scared that people won't read it because it's already to big.
Will post more about you and VE later on I need a break right now and eat something first.


Sorry, your gigantic post, just like your other gigantic post can still be resumed in:
-VE and gonzaw are scum because they are tunneling me for reasons I think are shitty
-Thoughts about the Night Kills
-Filler

You are still in your "tunnel-vision" mode, and don't comment on other things, like my thoughts on wbg, or people's thoughts on johnny/Adam/etc. You don't even mention Katina who's been tunneling you since the beginning of D1 and has been doing it worse than I did, etc.


That being said I also will reread your filter. I have to if you want me to post more about you. You're still going to be lynched today or tomorrow.
for now I'm putting my vote on VE
##Vote VE



Okay, I'm getting tired of this; I'd like some people to come in with their wise opinion because I can't stand doing this all D2 long.
I'm fucking trying to give you a chance to redeem yourself and you go and do the exact same fucking thing you've been doing since D1, tunneling me and dodging my points (although now you actually think I'm scum instead of town).

[B]On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well for one, I think he's scum and you don't...his flip will give me information about you because I think he's VERY CLEARLY scum, and you lived today. While it's true that his flip doesn't say anything concrete about your alignment, it would explain why we're of one mind about Hassybaby and not Toad, when Hassybaby actually looks more town and Toad actually looks more scum after the night activity.

That's the PRIMARY reason, if you want to get down to brass tacks bugs.

Secondly, I'm more confident that Toad will flip scum now especially given his OMGUS reaction to my vote on him today...so in spite of me saying that I could be convinced to switch to Hassy earlier, you can pretty much seal that with a kiss and send it home to mama.


Who are you talking to?

Go back and reread my case and post your thoughts clearly please.
Post your thought process on your sub-par activity at the beginning of D1, post why you made such a bad case on Toad yet not comment on ANYTHING else that's being discussed about Toad, etc. Post your thoughts on other players other than Toad/Hassy, for instance the lurkers, or Jitsu/BH/etc.
If not then please die, slowly.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 11 2012 07:10 GMT
#1146
I think VE is saccing himself to keep discussion from anything else today. Maybe we shouldn't pressure him so much?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 11 2012 07:12 GMT
#1147
##Unvote: Toadesstern

At least until this shitstorm ends.

Lurkers, come and weight your opinions on VE and Toad, you have to.
And again, refer to my cases on both of them and see if you agree or not, or to my other thoughts on wbg too if you want.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#1148
So no one is interested in a defense huh? Everyone just wants to burn VE?

The first game I live past N1 in like 4 games....

Toad, wall of text incoming. I hope you brought a change of pants.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#1149
On April 11 2012 16:02 Katina wrote:
Yay! People have finally realized!

##Vote: Toadesstern

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#1150
johnnywup your vote is not formatted correctly in the voting thread.

VE dies today, here's a quick rundown of why:


On April 11 2012 15:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
I actually think you're right, Toad. VE might very well be scum.

VE is there a particular reason you're going after Toad and not...iunno, Hassy, or ghost, or anyone else who would fit the scum bill? I don't see why Toad looks like scum to you at all.


Here's what I ask VE.

Here's how he responds:


On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well for one, I think he's scum and you don't...


That's not a reason for Toad being scum.

On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
his flip will give me information about you because I think he's VERY CLEARLY scum, and you lived today.


That's not a reason either. In fact, it's fucking awful.

On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
While it's true that his flip doesn't say anything concrete about your alignment, it would explain why we're of one mind about Hassybaby and not Toad,


Hold on a second here...wtf??!!?

On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
his flip will give me information about you


On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
While it's true that his flip doesn't say anything concrete about your alignment,


LOL

also, this:

On April 10 2012 07:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
Only scum care more about which lynch will "give more info" rather than actually trying to lynch the guy...oh I dunno...that is actually more likely to be scum.


On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
when Hassybaby actually looks more town and Toad actually looks more scum after the night activity.


Again not a reason, and using night actions to incriminate someone? Really? If anything is incriminating about the night actions it's that YOU didn't die. Also, you don't even explain how the night actions incriminate toad at all. This is just bullshit.

On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's the PRIMARY reason, if you want to get down to brass tacks bugs.


LOL there wasn't a reason in there!

On April 11 2012 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Secondly, I'm more confident that Toad will flip scum now especially given his OMGUS reaction to my vote on him today...so in spite of me saying that I could be convinced to switch to Hassy earlier, you can pretty much seal that with a kiss and send it home to mama.


You're more confident that Toad is scum because he did what anyone would do when a shitty case is presented against them?

gg, you just fucked up huge.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 11 2012 07:25 GMT
#1151
No bugs, you're forgetting something - that I haven't responded to Toad's case or given ANY reasoning for my vote. I was at work, under the watchful eye of my IT department. Now, however....Now I'm home.

You're fucked.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
April 11 2012 07:26 GMT
#1152
On April 11 2012 15:11 gonzaw wrote:
What is an unwinnable situation? One where no matter how much scum we lynch, we still lose.

E.g: If we start at Day with 10v6, it's unwinable, because of this:
D-10v6
N-10v5
D-7v5
N-7v4
D-5v4
N-5v3
D-3v3 GG

Meaning if at any day we are 10v6 we win even if we lynch 3 scum in succession, because scum KP will always be 3, and then 2 (scum kill more townies than we lynch scum).

Woke up, read through the thread and notice this little gem. He makes a post regarding how mafia would win a 10v6 and accidentally puts in we win, we being scum.
Gonzaw, do you have a confession to make? Are you scum?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 11 2012 07:27 GMT
#1153
We're still in a really tight spot following this lynch. It's going to be what, 19-5? Following night something like 16-5? We should focus on finding other people as well. It's something I really screwed up in GoT bc I shut down all discussion. I don't want the same to happen here.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 11 2012 07:27 GMT
#1154
On April 11 2012 16:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
No bugs, you're forgetting something - that I haven't responded to Toad's case or given ANY reasoning for my vote. I was at work, under the watchful eye of my IT department. Now, however....Now I'm home.

You're fucked.


herp that's exactly why you're scum

you just folded under the pressure and told me several times that Toad is scum because Toad is scum, and by Toad dying you'd find out my alignment even though Toad's alignment says nothing about my alignment (a self-acknowledged fact)

Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 11 2012 07:28 GMT
#1155
On April 11 2012 16:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 15:11 gonzaw wrote:
What is an unwinnable situation? One where no matter how much scum we lynch, we still lose.

E.g: If we start at Day with 10v6, it's unwinable, because of this:
D-10v6
N-10v5
D-7v5
N-7v4
D-5v4
N-5v3
D-3v3 GG

Meaning if at any day we are 10v6 we win even if we lynch 3 scum in succession, because scum KP will always be 3, and then 2 (scum kill more townies than we lynch scum).

Woke up, read through the thread and notice this little gem. He makes a post regarding how mafia would win a 10v6 and accidentally puts in we win, we being scum.
Gonzaw, do you have a confession to make? Are you scum?


He did an ebwop following that but yeah it's pretty sketch.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 11 2012 07:29 GMT
#1156
On April 11 2012 16:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 15:11 gonzaw wrote:
What is an unwinnable situation? One where no matter how much scum we lynch, we still lose.

E.g: If we start at Day with 10v6, it's unwinable, because of this:
D-10v6
N-10v5
D-7v5
N-7v4
D-5v4
N-5v3
D-3v3 GG

Meaning if at any day we are 10v6 we win even if we lynch 3 scum in succession, because scum KP will always be 3, and then 2 (scum kill more townies than we lynch scum).

Woke up, read through the thread and notice this little gem. He makes a post regarding how mafia would win a 10v6 and accidentally puts in we win, we being scum.
Gonzaw, do you have a confession to make? Are you scum?


Are you serious?
Please read the thread and post your thoughts on what's going on instead of trying to derail it with useless bullshit.
Post your thoughts on VE, Toad, my cases, and other players you find suspicious.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 11 2012 07:31 GMT
#1157
On April 11 2012 16:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 15:11 gonzaw wrote:
What is an unwinnable situation? One where no matter how much scum we lynch, we still lose.

E.g: If we start at Day with 10v6, it's unwinable, because of this:
D-10v6
N-10v5
D-7v5
N-7v4
D-5v4
N-5v3
D-3v3 GG

Meaning if at any day we are 10v6 we win even if we lynch 3 scum in succession, because scum KP will always be 3, and then 2 (scum kill more townies than we lynch scum).

Woke up, read through the thread and notice this little gem. He makes a post regarding how mafia would win a 10v6 and accidentally puts in we win, we being scum.
Gonzaw, do you have a confession to make? Are you scum?


are you trying to derail discussion because your scumbuddy VE is about to die?

Real curious, cause you don't say anything at all until you find this and choose to point it out despite gonzaw having corrected himself already.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 11 2012 07:34 GMT
#1158
On April 11 2012 12:13 EchelonTee wrote:

3. Lurking?? Now is the time to halp town: A big problem with town atmosphere atm is that there are a lot of people lurking. I understand that people get busy and it's hard to keep up with a big game like this, but we REALLY NEED to be able to get reads and stances on the major lynch targets of the day. I especially have my eye on Tunkeg and Zealos; both put their votes down on people who had no chance of being lynched.


I'm afraid that is a bad habit of mine, I often keep my vote on one person, as I am not normally around in the last hours before deadline, sorry about that.

Other than that, that night was horrible for us, and we need to get this next lynch right. Which is why I advocate a lynch for: VE 100%

Toad's case makes a lot of sense. Adding to that: VE has posted a LOT of useless filler. At the start of the game he said to be the "policy police" to which he follows with no policy all game (or something along those lines)

He also seems very happy to have the town in complete chaos, and does little to actually find scum. If we don't lynch VE today I would be pretty sad after Toads case, and should VE flip scum, then we can re-evaluate Toad.

##Vote: VisceraEyes
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 11 2012 07:34 GMT
#1159
On April 11 2012 16:29 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 16:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 11 2012 15:11 gonzaw wrote:
What is an unwinnable situation? One where no matter how much scum we lynch, we still lose.

E.g: If we start at Day with 10v6, it's unwinable, because of this:
D-10v6
N-10v5
D-7v5
N-7v4
D-5v4
N-5v3
D-3v3 GG

Meaning if at any day we are 10v6 we win even if we lynch 3 scum in succession, because scum KP will always be 3, and then 2 (scum kill more townies than we lynch scum).

Woke up, read through the thread and notice this little gem. He makes a post regarding how mafia would win a 10v6 and accidentally puts in we win, we being scum.
Gonzaw, do you have a confession to make? Are you scum?


Are you serious?
Please read the thread and post your thoughts on what's going on instead of trying to derail it with useless bullshit.
Post your thoughts on VE, Toad, my cases, and other players you find suspicious.


Oh for christs sake gonzaw. I'm the attention seeking hypno-Toad, don't sit in my spot!

Seriously everyone doing a post that's not about YOUR case is some stupid bullshit because people are ignoring the important part in this thread according to you? You've got to be kidding me.
I didn't even notice that beause it's so short above my massive wall of text and while you posted I obviosusly wasn't checking the thread but that DOES sound pretty hilarious after all :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
April 11 2012 07:35 GMT
#1160
On April 11 2012 16:29 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 16:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 11 2012 15:11 gonzaw wrote:
What is an unwinnable situation? One where no matter how much scum we lynch, we still lose.

E.g: If we start at Day with 10v6, it's unwinable, because of this:
D-10v6
N-10v5
D-7v5
N-7v4
D-5v4
N-5v3
D-3v3 GG

Meaning if at any day we are 10v6 we win even if we lynch 3 scum in succession, because scum KP will always be 3, and then 2 (scum kill more townies than we lynch scum).

Woke up, read through the thread and notice this little gem. He makes a post regarding how mafia would win a 10v6 and accidentally puts in we win, we being scum.
Gonzaw, do you have a confession to make? Are you scum?


Are you serious?
Please read the thread and post your thoughts on what's going on instead of trying to derail it with useless bullshit.
Post your thoughts on VE, Toad, my cases, and other players you find suspicious.

I did read the thread, though I must admit I missed the ebwop as Toad's huge post drew my attention. Honestly Toad, WBG, VE, and you all look suspicious to me, and I'm highly surprised sputnik didn't flip red. You typed a significant scumslip as it's very likely that mafia would create such a list for use in their own quicktopic and when copypasting it, forget to change the "we". That's why I'm on your ass, the ebwop could just be an oh shit after rereading it or one of your scumbuddies pointing it out. I'll be looking at your filter more closely tonight.
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