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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain17958 Posts
On April 04 2012 08:17 Tobon wrote: You don't know how hard it is to resist replying to that with something extremely useless! So there, that part is extremely useless, now let's move on. How do you square Sbrubbles being number one on your scumometer now, with this post: ... especially since Sbrubbles has posted even more actively after you wrote that? Heh, just found this gem. You really excell at making useless posts... I'm starting to agree more and more with the people who want to off you, but there are other priorities for the moment. I might as well respond: I guess my suspicion of Sbrubbles was wrong, but yes, if you had taken the time to read the post I made about Sbrubbles, you would see why I found his later posts rather scummy. Instead you just decided to answer without reading. I was wrong about him benig scum, he was just not much help to anybody. His case against Syllo came at a time when it was a 3-way suspicionfest between Sbrubbles, Syllo and Cephiro, so nothing anything any of them said about each other was going to be worth trusting. Other than that my suspcion of Sbrubbles over Syllo was based mainly on the fact that Syllo dealt well with the case against him and neither had contributed much of anything to the thread, so Sbrubbles seemed scummier. Syllo has now jumped up on my scumometer with Sbrubbles flipping green, but so has Cephiro (quite far and fast, I might mention. His plan and defense of it just reek of scumstink): I am now in favour of lynching both and getting at the very least a 1:1 trade out of it, and possibly more. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 04 2012 07:41 wherebugsgo wrote: *with BM's roleclaim Apologies, on my phone and it took forever to type that all twice THAT WAS A PHONE POST? Bravo Nominated for best phonepost ever. I'm trying to find where I need to be reading from, guys. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17958 Posts
On April 04 2012 19:50 Bluelightz wrote: Owww crap, the POTENTIALLY booby trapped positions are 2 and 24. Okay... given the role of darkness in DFM1, why the FUCK would you say this? This makes no sense for scum OR town. If you're scum, then you can say this to your darkness casting buddy in scumQT. The only reason to say this in the thread is so that town thinks you're helping them by saying something that is entirely useless to us. If you're town, you just gave scum information they didn't have, which means you're incredibly stupid. Given my policy that bad town play is almost always beneficial to scum I think we should definitely attempt to lynch three people today: bluelightz, cephiro and syllo. I doubt we have enough pulls to get all three of them off the bottom, one of them will have to go into the fire. The only way we have of knowing someone is in the fire is if the item is picked up, which means we have to risk scum picking up the item, or having town go there first and then pushing a scum off the top edge afterwards. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 03 2012 14:59 syllogism wrote: And I've made it quite clear why it is unlikely for BM's role to be in the game, and thus he is lying, especially if risk's more believable came is true this post is pretty relevant | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 03 2012 15:49 syllogism wrote: And no, it wasn't refuted by VE; in fact, I convinced him. It can not be "refuted" by anyone other than Ace and it's quite suspicious that few people are agreeing with me given that the logic behind my skepticism is sound. Now that I think about it, BM said he latched on to VE, so it's possible that he is responsible for getting VE killed. correlation=/=causation get your facts straight  | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 03 2012 17:36 wherebugsgo wrote: My first thought was that scum had a hidden push power. You seem to have jumped to a more complex conclusion than that. ....no. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 04 2012 14:38 Snarfs wrote: I believe prplhz is referring to this: I disagree with this. How is it different from a mad hatter? It's a version of a vig, and with him getting some knowledge of it, it fits with the flavor in my eyes. I don't feel like Bluelightz is any more likely to be scum with his claim. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On April 04 2012 20:01 Acrofales wrote: Okay... given the role of darkness in DFM1, why the FUCK would you say this? This makes no sense for scum OR town. If you're scum, then you can say this to your darkness casting buddy in scumQT. The only reason to say this in the thread is so that town thinks you're helping them by saying something that is entirely useless to us. If you're town, you just gave scum information they didn't have, which means you're incredibly stupid. Given my policy that bad town play is almost always beneficial to scum I think we should definitely attempt to lynch three people today: bluelightz, cephiro and syllo. I doubt we have enough pulls to get all three of them off the bottom, one of them will have to go into the fire. The only way we have of knowing someone is in the fire is if the item is picked up, which means we have to risk scum picking up the item, or having town go there first and then pushing a scum off the top edge afterwards. Me giving information to scum = Scum? Maybe your the one that's incredibly stupid...... | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
More importantly, you also softclaim that implies syllo is mod confirmed red. You backed out of it after people called you out, since you still need to have powers to get yourself out of incineration somehow. Doesn't excuse the scummy softclaim. I am really curious about the plan now. I want to hear it. You have to justify better before we help you. There's a chance you scum in our eyes. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 04 2012 15:00 Cephiro wrote: 1. If you read my filter, you can see I am "tunneling" on cascades and Mattchew as well. I am sorry, I must have misunderstood what tunnelling means, all this time I've been thinking it is senseless accusing of one certain person only. Care to clarify this for me? 2. If you are town, why would you NOT CARE if someone is tunneling in your opinion, as it can be harmful for town? If you think I am town, why are you not worried about scum using a power to kill me? in response to 2, it can be bad in LYLO if a green townie spotlights, and won't come off of a vote, but when they do it on the actual scumteam, with good logic, that is a beautiful sight to see. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 04 2012 15:32 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm actually curious to see what other players say first. There is plenty of time in the day and there's no rush. I'd like to use time to get more reads, rather than idly talk about things we've already been talking about. risk.nuke, layabout, Wiggles, Mattchew, and Bill Murray: I want you to do the bulk of the talking. Go. Tell us what you would like to do right now and who you would like to kill. Syllogism - I want to test Cephiro's hard-softclaim. He isn't outright claiming any investigative ability, whether, if he has it or not, it is multiple or single use, or anything, but his softclaim was as close to a guilty claim as I have seen in a long time. I don't want to not test that. PRP - Like syllo, I feel like his interactions with WBG, and the way he responded to the Cephiro ordeal, is pretty damning. I am willing to lynch him off of associative tells, but I'd like to flip syllo first. Tobon - Though he has been looking better, with his defense being "noone has made a case on me, therefore I can't be scum", and all the flak he has gotten, he has my eyebrows raised. Bluelightz - I really wouldn't mind losing him, even if he is town. He is not a VI, I don't think, so I feel like he is playing dumb as scum. I am not sure, however, that he isn't a little kid that wanders, lost, into the middle of the movie theatre... but with an AK. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
Dear god, I've got to stop getting into games that start on weekends  | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
If your interaction with syllo wasn't completely 100% scummy, I would feel like you were town WBG. I do have a leaned townread on you, but it's not 100% like I felt about Palmar, because you could potentially be throwing syllogism under the bus. I only say this because your questioning of him felt too good, to where it looked like an act. If you're really that good, and that was the building up, and prelude of a great case, bravo. We haven't been using our PoPs correctly. Now, I'm not a dictator, as I'm not confirmed or anything like an innocent child (definitely not bluelightz lol ), so I'm not going to boss people around in a "Soviet Russia make you push or pull like want" way, only sort of. We need to hold people accountable, loosen up, and ask people questions. Scum will eventually become illogical... it wears on you being scum. Here's to hoping so, at least.reasons you should believe I'm town: 1) I actually want our next course of action to be to consolidate pushes or pulls around what Snarf wants to do, but I know the thread won't go for it, and would lash out against me, so I'm not touching it with a ten-foot-pole. 2) proposing someone else leads versus myself... kind of having second thoughts on that, though 3) personal meta of lack of night posting, whereas, as scum, i'd post in the night /wifom Honestly, though, I can't really be sure snarfs is town... 1) Godfather 2) I could be naive 4) I could be ... no, VE flipped town... I can't be insane... not in the game at least :D ...A role changing ability, or busdriver only the first two are valid, where my ability was day use However, I feel comfortable leading myself, if you all aren't satisfied listening to Snarfs. I'm not saying to not scumhunt, and to turn into sheep. I'm just saying that people are really looking to be prone to wasting their pushes and pulls without any sense of order, which allows for scum to blend in, and that should be our first mission as a town to prevent | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 04 2012 20:06 Bluelightz wrote: If I die and I gurantee everyone I will flip blue. Keel prp if this happens. No one is disputing your claim, no one ever did. If you read the OP you'd see that everybody in this game has a role, it's in game mechanic 10; everybody is going to flip "blue" (or green as people actually just flip). You were told repeatedly not to use an ability because it was scum favored and then you go ahead and do it anyway. If you're town this is by far the worst performance I have ever seen from a townie. I'm getting a feeling that you're actually town, you're just not reading the thread, and relying solely on having an ability to confirm that you're town, but none of this matters. After what you did, town has to kill you. Let me restate the very clear case on Bluelightz:
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 04 2012 20:15 syllogism wrote: It doesn't seem possible to even kill ceph today as assuming the nullifying power can be used more than once, scum will just nullify him after we've wasted PoPs on him. Even if they can't do that, he may not be lying about having some sort of power that allows him to switch places in the queue. Using this logic, it's not going to be possible to kill any scum ever as they will just nullify whoever is on the line. Maybe nullify only works on non-scum or maybe it only works in the red zone, the other thing is just crazy. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
I don't see your logic on how im scum, you just said I used my ability then im scum? Fuck this, ##Pull: prplhz Hey scum, DIE | ||
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