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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On April 02 2012 01:50 syllogism wrote: The problem with free for all PoPing is that once someone throws down their vote, they can't get it back. If that is allowed, scum can throw away their vote while hasty townies can waste theirs. If we later reach a consensus on "lynching" someone, the votes may not be there and we'll gain less information as some people may have already used "their votes". I dont understand Syllogism's play so far at all. He is normally smarter then this and not so reckless. After writing the above early on in the game he proceeds to push BM and Pull Sbrubbles who havent even posted yet. How is that not wasting PoPs? While I agree that Sbrubbles is not someone who we want alive at this moment, the fact that Sbrubbles haven't posted yet is a big sign to me saying "Leave him alone so far". Yes we could kill him but then what? The way I understand Risk.nukes role one or more of Syllogism, Sbrubbles or Cephiro is scum. (Correct me if I'm wrong) Syllogism is quick to pull Sbrubbles to put empathis on how scummy Sbrubbles looks - and thus remove focus from himself. Why pull him when he haven't even posted yet? Why not wait to see if he comes back before using your PoP's. Thats what I would have done. Syllo's push on BM is also weird. Earlier he wanted to know if there was any support for a BM "lynch". But there wasn't yet he still pushes him? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Why is that? Syllo, please explain yourself. In addition, I'm hesitant about saving Palmar until he gives us reads. From what he said, if it's true, he's probably town. However, I don't want to take chances or waste PoPs if we aren't for sure. The only way to ensure we're dealing with a townie Palmar is to see whether or not he will actually provide us with reads. | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
And can we pull Syllo to the buttom so he can die? (Yes I'm saying I think he is scum) I'll sleep for some hours and set my alarm to be back before deadline to use my PoP's. (Thank god for easter holiday!) | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
##pull Palmar | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On April 03 2012 06:20 Dirkzor wrote: Eh... WBG if it works you just gave Palmar the item... smart? If it works we kill him. If it doesn't work then we've confirmed he's telling the truth and he looks more town. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Current positions - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + 24.[Item] [___________] 23.[Palmar] [___________] 22.[___________] [___________] 21.[___________] [___________] 20.[___________][___________] 19.[VisceraEyes] [___________] 18.[___________][___________] 17.[Mr.Wiggles] [cascades] 16.[Nemesis][Dirkzor] 15. [Bill Murray] [Mr.Zentor] 14. [___________][___________] 13.[Snarfs][Tobon] 12.[wherebugsgo][prplhz] 11. [Acrofales][layabout] 10.[Mattchew][Bluelightz] 9. [___________][___________] 8. [___________][___________] 7. [risk.nuke][syllogism] 6. [Sbrubbles][___________] 5. [Cephiro][___________] 4. [___________][___________] 3. [___________] [___________] 2. [___________] [___________] 1. [___________] [___________] PoPs - Day 1 + Show Spoiler + Mr.Wiggles Bluelightz Push Dirkzor VisceraEyes Pull Palmar Push Bluelightz risk.nuke Sbrubbles Dirkzor Mattchew Pull Palmar Push VisceraEyes Snarfs Push cascades Pull Palmar Cephiro Tobon Push layabout Pull Cephiro wherebugsgo Push Bluelightz layabout syllogism Push Bill Murray Pull Sbrubbles Mr.Zentor prplhz Acrofales Push VisceraEyes Bill Murray Pull Palmar cascadesPull Palmar Palmar Nemesis Push Tobon | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18131 Posts
On April 03 2012 02:51 Snarfs wrote: I agree that the Palmar situation needs to be dealt with and sometime before he needs to disappear being in a European time zone. ##Pull Palmar Whoever does the last pull needs to make sure that they make it clear that they're going to pull well before they make the pull so that we don't risk two people pulling at the same time and "accidentally" killing Palmar. Ideally we have two people, one who can pull and one who can push for safety. Also, refresh the actions in a new window before pulling. No excusing any "accidents" here. Also, with risk claiming it isn't his ability, it's quite frustrating to see that Tobon wasted his push as well (though by chance it did verify some weird behaviour around Acro/Nemesis). This is the kind of PoP that I was trying to set a precedent for punishing by pushing cascades. And then, 8 pages later, you come in and just throw away your pull. Derp much? On April 03 2012 06:19 wherebugsgo wrote: I'll do it. ##pull Palmar | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18131 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Tobon
United States372 Posts
And if the answer to both those questions is no, then PoPing a nullified person doesn't use up your PoP? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On April 03 2012 06:25 Acrofales wrote: WBG: you're complaining about people wasting PoPs, but don't even read the thread properly?! You just wasted a pull. In fact, the very pull that made me decide he was speaking the truth: And then, 8 pages later, you come in and just throw away your pull. Derp much? No you derp much. Palmar started at 18. He is now at 23. 5 pulls have been made to Palmar meaning everyone have been successfull. WBG's pull would have been the 6th. Im now waiting for the mod to answer Tobons question before making my judgement here | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18131 Posts
Something strange is going on here. | ||
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