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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
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EchelonTee
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An example of [why lynching 'useless townies' is bad] is in Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VII; just look up the filters of myself, and gumshoe. Gumshoe's early posts are quite terrible, and I openly state that I think he is mafia. However, I soon realized that he is just newbie town (more on this later), and spend a decent amount of time defending him from all sorts of pressure. This became fruitful, because later on gumshoe became a more constructive poster and contributed to a pro-town atmosphere. A lot of people will say things like "i think this guy is scum, and well, if he isn't he's useless townie and should die". This is a POOR mode of thinking; you always want to be fairly confident that someone is scum. My new mantra in Mafia is "Bad does not = scum". Trust me, I fully understand what you are presenting here. However, atm I don't see mr. wup as a useless townie, I see him as someone who is fairly scummy. You'll never see me vote someone for being "useless", but you will see me vote for people I think are scummy. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
I have an excel sheet. Everyone is on a scale of 1-5, town-scum. Everyone starts at 3. After the first few pages, I put you at a 4. After your post on BH, I put you to a 3. After the last 2 pages, I put you back to 4. In thread it looks like a 180 I spose, but I put people's alignments on a sliding scale. oh and if it offends you that I'm calling you mr. wup, I'll stop. | ||
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EchelonTee
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EchelonTee
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On March 27 2012 21:55 Bluelightz wrote: IMO, froggy dont be a new Jackal58 XD, what does "being a new Jackal" mean in context of froggy's posting? oh and ur doing that thing where u call everyone townie. would be more helpful if you focused on your scum reads tyvm ^^ response to ppls about my posting: On March 27 2012 22:32 gonzaw wrote: @Echelon: What's with your weird wording? Saying things like "hip hip hurrah!" or "you are crAAAzy" and that weird attitude of yours? I don't remember you ever playing like that, seems you may be trolling or something. 1. after I tanked hard in my last town game trying to play "serious aggresive asshole town leader", i'm looking for a new, hopefully less fail-whale town playstyle and you guys are the lucky testing grounds. problem? I'm being way more clear with my "weird wording" than you and you big posts. On March 27 2012 23:34 MrZentor wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 27 2012 23:00 Bluelightz wrote: Zentor, since your here, What is your read on EchelonTee? *cough* you're *cough* EchelonTee seems to be behaving rather erratically. He starts by being helpful and explaining how he would treat the game. On March 27 2012 10:14 EchelonTee wrote: honestly I am treating this game like a standard Mini Mafia, with the knowledge that there is probably a few doods with nukes or powers revolving around nukes. AKA, re-skinned medics/vigs. and if there's anything I learned from minis, it's that there's always scum hiding in the lurkers. In general I'll always argue against policy lynches (because they're bad) but in a Mini, with so few people town simply cannot afford to have non-contributors whose alignment cannot be determined. People lurking scummily (yeah there's a difference between innocent lurking and scummily lurking) should be axed over someone with only a weak case on them. gonzaw! shouldn't you be spamming the thread by now? He continues his good townie streak by questioning BH's play with reasons. On March 27 2012 12:59 EchelonTee wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 27 2012 12:39 Blazinghand wrote: 1) the idea that the town should take a stance is not good. Individually, we should make our own stances and developed them with the discussion 3) discussion of policy lynches implies they are important. I believe they are important insofar as we use them in an appropriate faction. It seems to me that your statements are unnecessarily aggressive and are hurting the town atmosphere. Your removal will help the town greatly and improve our discourse. In any case, I think this will be appropriate: ##Vote: Sinensis When you wake up I expect some actually helpful posts. Actually, I expect an OMGUS, but ideally you'd make some helpful posts. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FIZjv.gif) come at me bro preface: this aint no chainsaw blzinghand, I feel that you're being the unnecessarily aggressive one here. first you say it's bad that nemesis is using policy as a centerpiece for lynching, then you state it's bad that nemesis says policy lynch discussion isn't important? your arguement doesn't flow. and dude, you misread his original post; he's saying "town should take stance" as in townies should each have their own stance. ur being all flashy and stuff. is this normal BH? + Show Spoiler + where do you get your gifs? He then starts to go crazy. On March 27 2012 13:15 EchelonTee wrote: blzinghand i think you talking craAAAzzzy, and not the crazy I like. I mean just look at this nonsensical post + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z8LzZ.gif) Blazinghand: I thought you went to sleep. Nemesis: I was just checking thr- Blazinghand: He lied!! Townies never wake back up!! Lynch!!! Jubjubs (chanting): It makes so much sense! He then transitions from crazy back to normal good townie in this post. On March 27 2012 14:09 EchelonTee wrote: TAKE ON SOMEONE YOUR OWN SIZE BUB ##vote: Blazinghand Being good at arguing doesn't make you town. At this point you're just wildly voting people. Sowing dat chaos. Way to take the one off statement in his post and ignore the rest. You're voting people off of semantic mistakes as opposed to having any real reasoning, so thread flounders under your boot. As you might say, this kind of thinking hurts town. Scum. He does this a few times throughout his posts. To be honest, I can't decide if this is town or mafia behavior. He could be a town who is mixing BH's and VE's styles. He could be scum trying to make it seem like he is helping town while sowing chaos. I'll let somebody else decide. :/ 2. uhhh you didn't really comment anything about me at all lol. all you did was list a bunch of my posts, noting that one of them was more crAAAzy than the others. however the content of that post is part of an ongoing line of thought on BH. just b/c i posted a gif doesn't make my arguements erratic. It's also really suspect that you say "I'll let somebody else decide". TAKE A STANCE, BE A MAN On March 27 2012 23:41 zelblade wrote: On a more serious note I do agree with the rest of your post. ET is acting off to me, and I dont really like this new posting style of his. Whilst it seems different from a couple of his scum games I have read, this playstyle of his doesnt exactly mirror his town play either. I also dont like him voting blazinghand, unvoting after johnny joins his wagon, only explaining why after he gets called out like a few hours later. Would a "sorry guys I reread and dont feel blzinghand is scum anymore..." Ill be keeping a eye on him for sure. 3. so essentially you're saying that my play this game is different from my scum play and my town play. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/35/CaptainObvious.jpg) if my posting starts sowing chaos or makes me sound unclear go ahead and call me out brudder, but at the moment your logic don't make sense. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On March 28 2012 07:49 johnnywup wrote: I personally don't see anything wrong with C_C's posting. However I think that EchelonTree is super suspicious. Sides with me until the moment I vote. Admittedly the argument that BH posted to change his mind was a strong one. But what makes me wonder if ET is scum is... First of all, my argument was strong at the time. He was acting scummy, in my opinion. But he defended himself well. So my argument fell apart. Which is fine. no your arguement wasn't strong. this post didn't make any sense. i could detail to you exactly why it doesn't, but you're going to have to do some thinking sometime. On March 28 2012 07:49 johnnywup wrote: But the thing is, previously you said which ties into you saying I'm more scummy because BH defended himself well and my argument fell apart. what? you didn't actually state anything by bringing up this quote. in this post, and in your atk on BH, you draw several quotes but don't actually use them to prove anything. my english professor would fail you. On March 28 2012 07:49 johnnywup wrote: You made the same argument as me, that BH's posts were nonsensical. But after "rereading my posts after finding BHs argument to be strong" you found my argument was weak. This doesn't make me scummy, unless it makes you scummy as well, since you had the same opinion. Admittedly, BH's argument was pretty good and I don't fault you for unvoting. Arguments fall apart. Mine did. So why does that make me scum? Why so hypocritical? ##vote: EchelonTee once again, you take one of my quotes and completely ignore what i said. you still haven't provided a single actual reason why i'm "super suspicious". whatever. I had the same STANCE as you (blazinghand a scummy fck) but my ARGUMENT was constructed definitely. as in it made sense while yours, upon further investigation, feels fabricated and false. don't link myself and you; you're scummy not because of your bad arguement. it's because your reasoning for voting BH is fake. just look at this. does anyone srsly think this is a good reason to vote someone? it reminds me of when TKHawkins tried to bandwagon me in surprisingly normal VII. Get your vote off me, you're not starting a wagon on me today. VE, the fact that you think mr.wup is onto something here makes me very worried about your sanity. looking over current cases now. off hand i'm between gonzaw and C_C. don't like froggy/mr. wup either but they're not for today's lynch | ||
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EchelonTee
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EchelonTee
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I'm on board with C_C lynch; he's had ample time to respond to stuff and he has never rly adequately addressed this wombo combo post, which I largely agree with. ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese Other than that, cccalf is the only who was not voting besides me. that's no good brody, whether inentionally or nonintentionally that level of super lurking is rly scummy. Don't like gonzaw. VE dyou actually think I'm scum or are you just being teh jokr? you and BH are flopping all over the palce on your opinions. sometimes I'm scum, sometimes you guys fling mud at each other, sometimes you guys are CT buddies (CS image). And I just noticed that when you voted for me here you spelled my name wrong. so.... wat? | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
just in case ##Vote Cyber_Cheese I'll be back right before deadline most likely. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On March 28 2012 13:07 gonzaw wrote: So you are jumping on this bandwagon as well, huh? What do you mean by the bolded part then? You think I'm scum? Why not say it outright if you do? If so, what else makes you think I'm scum? You never mentioned me other than saying you wanted my lynch as well. That comment was a jab at your overall playing style; i've already said that i don't like your super large posts but that's irrelevant to alignment. do i think you're a scummy scum from scumville? no. do I think you're suspicious? yep, mostly for your tone and the subjects you are choosing to talk about. am I going to put up a case on you right now? nope. I don't like your case on blue, b/c as a bunch of ppl have said, he's not acting like he did in Aperture perse and that's the basis of your argument. him writing "one liners" and looking "confused" isn't convincing enough, and I feel that you were just trying to push forward a new wagon on a player that lots of people criticize. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
and he did softclaim his nationality.... ugh + Show Spoiler + nice flavor night post Hesmyrr! | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On March 29 2012 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote: No, there's nothing. He wanted me dead (obv) JW and gonzaw. He wasn't helpful and he was trolling the fuck out of town. I don't regret killing him. I just wish he'd been more helpful. what happened to that poetic "no townie is useless" thingamabob? i thought killing "unhelpful" townies was bad or something? | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
1. don't call people town they'll die 2. don't out yourself as a blue you'll die 3. if you think you'll die post your scum reads before deadline. preferrably right before | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
1 2 3 4+5 night time is a good time to review what happened the previous day; don't let actions/statements of the past be pushed under the rug sloosh where u @? i need more ppl i recognize T_T oh and blzinghand i think you've referred to "VE" as "ET" a few times. together we make "VET" but i dont think that's what ur goin for | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On March 27 2012 16:32 Blazinghand wrote: ET: I'll examine C_C after I finish writing up and posting the case. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. VE mentioned C_C that time On March 28 2012 10:13 Blazinghand wrote: Good evening gents! I'm currently putting together a 4-course meal today. On the prix fixe menu today: Amuse Bouche cccalf Entree JW Plats Principaux ET CC Desserts Voting someone might've been me that time but u never posted anything about me after that, unless i missed it | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On March 29 2012 13:52 Blazinghand wrote: Any analysis will be posted minutes before daybreak. +1 | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On March 29 2012 13:26 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm taking a look at the C_C wagon. At the very least 2 and probably more scum are on the wagon. I have a sneaking suspicion that there is definitely 3 scum on the wagon. wait lemme do the math .... yeah there's at least 3 scum on the wagon. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On March 29 2012 13:54 Blazinghand wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On March 29 2012 13:50 EchelonTee wrote: VE mentioned C_C that time might've been me that time but u never posted anything about me after that, unless i missed it In the former, I wasn't making a case on you. In the latter, I was considering analyzing your posting, but did not. You'll note I didn't post anything about VE in the latter case either until he went mad with power. ah ic. i wasn't accusing you of anything fyi, just wondering if you were mixing up our abbreviations. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On March 29 2012 12:08 EchelonTee wrote: posts that require attention for one reason or another: 1 2 3 4+5 #1: cyber saying something about sinensis. the case has potential, but last time I played with him his town was similar to this. it's like nisani 2.0 #2: this post from froggy is so fn weird; as pointed out by mr. blzinghand, froggy spends 23592u35098 years talking about VE's faults but then just votes for cyber. takes away his responsibility for voting C_C. #3: jwup randomly goes scared and says "plz dont lynch me im badddddd". there were ppl accusing him myself included but the tone of this sounds rly desparate #4: VE implies "ppl who respond are scummy" #5: "jwup didn't respond, i think he's town". see #3. VE logic in action. I'd like VE or jwup dead tomorrow | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
THE FACK AHHHHHHHHHHHHH | ||
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