The Sum of All Fears Mafia - Page 15

On March 28 2012 02:48 gonzaw wrote:
@Nemensis: Was that directed at me?



Either way I'll answer it nevertheless.


I'm waiting for the responses for Blue and Zentor. If none of them respond, or respond very badly, I'd want them lynched, but I'm waiting for both to respond first.
If C_C doesn't come here and post his thoughts before the day ends, then he's not a bad lynch either.
I'm having some doubts about other players, and I'd want their responses before posting my thoughts on them.

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PRE-EDIT:

@Zentor: No you didn't. Here is the only part where you referenced it:



You never said why it wasn't as suspicious as the other ones, even though you think I'm scum. And now you don't say why now suddenly you think it's suspicious as well, other than saying "I agree with VE".


One more thing, before you said this about VE:



Which means you have doubts about his alignment.
However, you now decide to take everything he says as true without hesitation, which is the opposite of being "afraid" of him

What exactly about Blue's behaviour is pro-town to you?

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PRE-EDIT2:

Do I have to repeat myself? Reread my posts if you want to see my stance on him and your vote on him.



When did I imply anything like that? I always have said since the beginning of dawn in TL that discussion about lurkers, policy lynch, etc is useless to determine someone's alignment. In my games I just post 1 paragraph about it to get it over with and deal with other stuff.
Why would you even say something like that if it is obvious I never said nor implied something similar?



I'd be willing to vote for him if he lurks througout the whole day, and doesn't post anything or posts anything of no value.
Basicly, I'll vote for him if his future behaviour is scummy. I don't find him any more suspicious than say ccalf/Sinensis/players that haven't posted too much since.




Do I need to tell you everything? I thought you were smarter than that.

I thought it was obvious that the players I'm pressuring, and asking everybody questions about them are the ones I'm suspicious of.

What, do you want me to make a list about who's "suspicious" and who isn't or something?



I won't do what you want. I want responses, and when I get them I'll assess who is most likely scum and vote for him. I won't try to "prove you wrong" by sheeping you.
If my defense so far isn't good enough for you, well, tough luck, I hope other players think otherwise.


Anyways VE, what do you think about Blue and Zentor?

On March 27 2012 18:32 Bluelightz wrote:
Reads, Reads!

Blazinghand ---> Catapaulted to very sure is townie from his recent posting(Active, Pressuring people, etc) and being funny and awesome in starcraft ^_^

Some random summaries

MrZentor --> Has been following Discussion, has not provided any reads, I'd love some reads from him.

gonzaw --> Has followed discussion, setup speculation, I'd love some reads and more content from him .

ET --> Townie, has followed discussion pressed people to post, preety townie

C_C ---> Needs to step up, he has nothing of substance, has not taken a stance on anything yet, I want reads, willing to lynch depending on what he post's next.

On March 27 2012 23:00 Bluelightz wrote:
Zentor, since your here, What is your read on EchelonTee?

On March 27 2012 23:19 Bluelightz wrote:
Hmm VE Good Point, Gonna read some others though, as for my scum read, what do you think of cccalf's response to my post?

On March 27 2012 23:30 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't like his posts, his first post has lots of fluff( I might say but I'm not so sure on this one). his second is setup speculation, it takes TWO posts to get his point out and clear >_>?, wait a sec on his 3rd post still thinking about

On March 27 2012 23:46 Bluelightz wrote:
Alright guys gonna go sleep for tonight, cya in the morning as a summary, C_C and cccalf, and possibly gonzaw I will vote for if you guys want to lynch him in the morning when I wake up, other lynch candidates I will review before voting.

On March 28 2012 03:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I seem to be getting a lot of flak for that soviet flag.

Why did I post it?
I was going to post it regardless of pm.
As for my stances
##Vote Bluelightz

On March 27 2012 09:33 Bluelightz wrote:
Err, I'm here guys like everyone else, I don't like policy lynches.

Busting out some early reads,VE is town because he has been active and pushing discussion :D

On March 27 2012 18:32 Bluelightz wrote:
Reads, Reads!

Blazinghand ---> Catapaulted to very sure is townie from his recent posting(Active, Pressuring people, etc) and being funny and awesome in starcraft ^_^

Some random summaries

MrZentor --> Has been following Discussion, has not provided any reads, I'd love some reads from him.

gonzaw --> Has followed discussion, setup speculation, I'd love some reads and more content from him .

ET --> Townie, has followed discussion pressed people to post, preety townie

C_C ---> Needs to step up, he has nothing of substance, has not taken a stance on anything yet, I want reads, willing to lynch depending on what he post's next.

On March 27 2012 15:12 Bluelightz wrote:
I agree with your points Sinensis, He didnt explain his votes in any way, espescially the one on Nemesis, Johhnys points are also sound, I will also be watching him for anything.

On March 27 2012 21:55 Bluelightz wrote:
IMO, froggy dont be a new Jackal58 XD,





Hmm, so who would be more worrying? A TOTALLY Inactive person or a person that has posted.

On March 27 2012 22:27 Bluelightz wrote:
His response:

You haven't asked or directed anything towards me so what am I supposed to say? It's only the first day, no need to get accusatory. While Blazinghand is being aggressive and a little narcissistic, it's just to stimulate conversation, I don't think he's scum.

Me:

wtf? I push targets I feel scummy and you are one, Day One is same like any other day but the fact that we have no info to go bye, You still seem scummy because you have no substance, NOTHING.

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Well theres my response Zelblade(Random question but If I could shorten your name how could I do it?) And, what's your opinion on this as well?

On March 28 2012 04:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:


Put simply, why should he feel the need to state he's like everyone else?



Pointing out townies and asking for discussion isn't as helpful as it seems. Neither is pointing out that fact. However, he stated that he's willing to lynch you which you seem to have glazed over. That, by definition, is as helpful as it seems.



Blatant buddying. He also shouldn't need to state that he's watching for suspicious posts, because townies should be doing it anyway. How is it buddying saying you agree with someone? He even gave further input. It's not like he was like "You know what, I trust you on this one" or something, which would be blatant buddying and sheeping - he gave his own reasoning in addition to agreeing with something said. There's nothing indicative of scum here, and the fact that you "think" there is tells a lot about how much you care about finding real scum.




Does anything about that post suggest he's pushing scum to anyone? Yeah - the post you bolded there. The part where he says "I push targets I feel scummy and you are one". That pretty much says exactly that he's pushing scum.

Combine those with the fact he's already getting called pro-town by a bunch of people. What does this have to say about his alignment at all?! Are you suggesting that the people calling him pro-town are all scum trying to protect him or something? What you're saying isn't even making any sense.

Conclusion: Scum. Scum indeed.

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Also of particular interest to me are Gonzaw and Johnnywup.

On March 27 2012 21:55 Bluelightz wrote:
IMO, froggy dont be a new Jackal58 XD,

On March 27 2012 22:32 gonzaw wrote:
@Echelon: What's with your weird wording? Saying things like "hip hip hurrah!" or "you are crAAAzy" and that weird attitude of yours? I don't remember you ever playing like that, seems you may be trolling or something.

On March 27 2012 23:41 zelblade wrote:
On a more serious note I do agree with the rest of your post. ET is acting off to me, and I dont really like this new posting style of his. Whilst it seems different from a couple of his scum games I have read, this playstyle of his doesnt exactly mirror his town play either.

I also dont like him voting blazinghand, unvoting after johnny joins his wagon, only explaining why after he gets called out like a few hours later. Would a "sorry guys I reread and dont feel blzinghand is scum anymore..."

Ill be keeping a eye on him for sure.

On March 28 2012 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote:


My responses to your bluelightz case are bolded. You're going to be lynched today, if you're town you'd better come up with some better reasoning than this if you expect to save yourself.

I expected more C_C. I am dissapoint.

On March 28 2012 01:22 slOosh wrote:
Q for Zelblade:

Where did this come from?

On March 28 2012 02:14 Nemesis wrote:
EBWOP If you don't think that the current lynch candidates are good, why don't you come up with your own? Who do you think is scum right now?

On March 28 2012 06:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

Awww, you felt like you had to defend him.
Cute

On March 28 2012 06:53 slOosh wrote:


I'm taking back this question, it makes sense after catching up.
Did a rough read of the thread so far - I don't see anything too conclusive from the BH talks.

As for C_C, still waiting for him to post something.
I've looked at gonzaw and I do agree with this post from VE,.
(From what I understand) He thinks Bluelightz is scum but he hasn't actually posted a case on him.


Gonzaw could you just post the case on him instead of asking people to look at him?

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I didn't say that the current candidates weren't good / bad - I just wanted more discussion / information to make better decisions. I think we should consolidate upon the pool of candidates so that we can focus discussion, so I'm evaluating the current candidates instead of bringing up more.

By night time (when I can post in detail) I hope both C_C and gonzaw will have put up more stuff to work with.

On March 27 2012 14:55 Sinensis wrote:
While I'm at it, here is what I think of johnnywup:

I think he is ballsy to go after BlazingHand because BlazingHand is seemingly going after anyone who will pay him any attention. I don't think a mafia player would go after BlazingHand, because doing so risks being in the spotlight; BlazingHand being a very aggressive player at the moment.

On March 27 2012 16:31 EchelonTee wrote:
so i was all like "BH's tunneling on nemesis is not very good, I don't like it". then I saw this and was like j.wup busting out the logic woot, my earlier suspicion on mr. wup was wrong! BH is being wildly scummy! But then BH reacted alright to ma prezzure, so then I re-read the post mr. wup and realized it was actually not good at all and I was a dumdum to think it was good so then I unvoted.

AKA

Nemesis case bad. J.wup case good.

On March 27 2012 15:13 EchelonTee wrote:Am I REALLY being unhelpful BH? Are you REALLY being more helpful than me, with your subversive aggression?

I don't expect a logical response, I expect OMGUS. Other people can comment on this if they wish. You're making utterly no sense.

On March 27 2012 17:12 EchelonTee wrote:
here's how it goes mr. wup, i'm going to let you into the mind of ET.

I have an excel sheet. Everyone is on a scale of 1-5, town-scum. Everyone starts at 3. After the first few pages, I put you at a 4. After your post on BH, I put you to a 3. After the last 2 pages, I put you back to 4.

In thread it looks like a 180 I spose, but I put people's alignments on a sliding scale.