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@Michael
You're whole argument is WIFOM, or quoting other peoples arguments against me. You think with your life on the line you would be able to make up some stuff to make me look scummy at least.
-To saying my point on Artanis is weak is right, I even said it wasn't at all likely I was just bringing it up for the sake of completeness of why he wasn't targeted. He countered my point by pointing out a mafia vigilante isn't a role. Making what I said impossible and I accept that.
I said this situation was most likely:
On March 28 2012 20:49 Mementoss wrote:
C) Mafia is trying to confuse us.
-> Mafia was in trouble after at least 2/3 of there members were labelled suspicious. Leading some sort of propaganda that puts doubt on Artanis a bit, but more than not me, Mementoss. I have been getting some heat lately, and Seviro mentioned a quick point out on some inconsistencies, and then was lynched. Gossemerr, mentioned me, and then was night killed. Its a little WIFOM that they are trying to put in the back of peoples minds to try and strengthen that I am scum. Most likely option.
If I was scum and you were town why would I kill Gossemerr? He would be the worst choice to kill. If the mafia just hit Artanis people would probably shift to the plan he laid out expecting his death. And his number one choice was to kill you, which would in turn, win me the game if I was scum and you were town. Killing Gossemerr would just bring negative attention back to me. Your whole case is based on this WIFOM and the WIFOM doesn't even line up.
Your team is bussing you because defending you at this point would be suicide for the mafia team.
The mafia kill is a desperation move that tries to lead the town to lynching me. I think the mafia acted out of desperation because either 2/3 or 3/3 of my scum cases are correct. If they just killed me, they had Artanis who already stated he agreed for the most part of my list. If they killed Artanis, I would just follow up on what I said/continue to scum hunt after Michaels death.
On March 28 2012 23:41 michaelthe wrote:
If I am scum, it would have been obvious to target Artanis or Mementoss. If I am scum and flip red, it means the town has pretty much 2 very strong greens. This would be a terrible plan. I should stress this with an underline!
Yes it was a terrible plan. Gives us the town a better chance than we woulda had otherwise.
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I'm here very briefly just to note one thing(i will be back in a couple hours)
Notice how 2/3 of the common mafia suspicions (meaning michaelthe and ninja) havent voted yet. scummy.
Artanis, why would you advocate my lynch in particular? instead of Ninja/bluey for example?
Virtu, im so sorry, i hope your sister is okay <3 if you can though, please come and vote soon so we can see where you stand. i understand if this isnt possible however.
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EBWOP: i know on an earlier post you said that you wanted the order to be michaelthe, blueyd, then myself, but why did you want to tell me that you would advocate my lynch depending on who dies?
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Actually, the main thing is why did you tell me, a person you suspect as mafia, that you would advocate my lynch depending on who dies? would it not just make more sense to not tell me, and then see who the "natural kill" from the mafia would be?
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Day 3 Vote Count.
Remember, everyone must vote, and you need a majority to lynch (4 people in this case)
Current votes:
michaelthe (4): Artanis[Xp], Nova_Terra, BlueyD, Mementoss
Not voting: michaelthe, Ninja4ever., virtu
The Day deadline is at 2012-03-30 12:00:00. (That's approximately 23:45:35 from now.)
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Wow, I can't believe the lack of activity. We are in a LYLO and people aren't even trying. GG town I guess. I won't stop trying though, we still have some good daytime left.
I will make this easy to digest:
Mementoss:
1) SCUM SLIP LAST NIGHT
+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2012 07:35 Gossemerr wrote:@Mem: Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 20:49 Mementoss wrote:
We want people to keep the discussion up or the town is doomed. Don't worry about dieing, worry about saying something that leads to a scum kill after your death. Honestly, I don't think anyone should be worried about dieing. There are only two possible mafia kills in my eyes.
1. Artanis
2. Mementoss
Probably not me anymore because I am thought of as less green than before by a couple townies.
Um, how would you know this? Also, yeah that underlined bit may not be so pro-town, but I remember last game where someone said that they were going to wait until after the night kill to post their case so they would not get killed (I don't remember who). So, basically I just meant don't be afraid to post, because we really need it. Also, why have you totally lost all suspicion in Nova? I have my reasons, but I will post them after you.
2. MADE NOVA CASE, NOVA NO LONGER ON RADAR
+ Show Spoiler +Wrote this AFTER voting on day 2: On March 27 2012 08:19 Mementoss wrote:But in the end I think either Nova or Seviro would be a good lynch at least for information, and if we are lucky. They are both scum. He has since taken Nova off his lists. That would mean we had 0 reds on trial on day 2.
3. SAME META AS LAST GAME, HE WAS SCUM THEN
+ Show Spoiler + Caught by Goss, WHO PLAYED LAST GAME: On March 27 2012 12:24 Gossemerr wrote:I need to post something before I go away for a while, as it REALLY bothers me: Mementoss, the apparently super green townieShow nested quote +On March 26 2012 21:38 Mementoss wrote:
If we lynch Seviro and Seviro flips town, Michael would be highly suspicious and so would Nova Terra.
If we lynch Seviro and Seviro flips scum, Michael would be off my radar, and Nova would still remain suspicious.
Mementoss did this EXACT SAME thing last game. For those of you whom didn't read it: He was a scum that game, and he basically said this "either Seviro (who was also in that game, was town) or Gossemerr (me, was also town) are scum, but NOT both." Basically it meant that if we followed his logic then we would lose two townies. It so happened that we lynched Seviro and the game ended because of mod kills, but you all should get my point. I don't like this shit. Its like adding connections where they should not be, in order to influence votes. Here look at this earlier quote:
I can't believe people are just ignoring all of this, I guess he is really good at controlling the town's opinion, just like how he won last game.
Quick Recap of my defense:
1- My analysis was never bad, It was good analysis of bad play from townies
1.1- Artanis day 1, accidently made what is considered largest scum slip
1.2- Seviro- Very reactive aggression, but Self Vote and AFK at end of day convinced everyone.
I hope people start posting today, otherwise its GG. I have another pretty busy day, but will check in in about 6 hours and then this evening before votes are final.
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@Michael
Time to defend the same stuff as before.
1. I already defended this. Couple of townies, I meant people who put cases on me, which at that point were Seviro (flipped town) and Artanis (accepted as almost confirmed town). "Couple of townies". Worded poorly and shoulda been worded differently.
2. On March 28 2012 03:29 Mementoss wrote:
1. Michael
2. BlueyD
3. Ninja4ever
4. Nova Terra
Suspicions list. Nova right behind who I analysed.Not on my radar for lynch today (because of you), but definitely considered for next day.
Also this:
On March 28 2012 20:53 Mementoss wrote:
I am so mad at myself for missing this before Gossemerrs death.
" Also, why have you totally lost all suspicion in Nova? I have my reasons, but I will post them after you."
-It would have been a good opinion to hear. -_-. To answer it now, I haven't lost all suspicion in Nova, I just find him less suspicious than the ones I labelled above. I am keeping on an eye on him, but will see if I find anything on him after we kill michael.
3. How is this the same "meta". Im not saying lynch these people if this happens, im saying look into them.
Even though it seems like everyone is set on lynching michael, we need to keep up the discussion about the next lynch too. The more talk we can get out of our suspects the better.
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Day 3 Vote Count.
Remember, everyone must vote, and you need a majority to lynch (4 people in this case)
Current votes:
michaelthe (5): Artanis[Xp], Nova_Terra, BlueyD, Mementoss, virtu
Mementoss (1): michaelthe
Not voting: Ninja4ever.
The Day deadline is at 2012-03-30 12:00:00. (That's approximately 11:43:03 from now.)
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@Nova_Terra I'll expand on that later. If michaelthe flips green then I'd have typed it all up for nothing 
@Ninja4ever. please vote for michaelthe. If he's mafia and you haven't voted they could all unvote him and vote for no lynch at 5am and we'd still lose. It's actually a risk in this case because if we don't lynch we lose immediately so it doesn't matter if the mafia are known then.
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France231 Posts
Is it still possible to get replaced at this point ?
Basically I have 2 unexepected exams next week, on subjects that I was supposed to pass but didn't because of class absenthism penalities. So yeah, I'm kinda depressed as shit right now. Plus a ton of unexpected work.
If it isn't possible I'll try to read and vote but yeah, I'm not even sure about that... Hope it won't spoil anyone's fun.
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France231 Posts
oh and btw
##Vote: michaelthe
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On March 30 2012 05:20 Ninja4ever. wrote:
Is it still possible to get replaced at this point ?
Basically I have 2 unexepected exams next week, on subjects that I was supposed to pass but didn't because of class absenthism penalities. So yeah, I'm kinda depressed as shit right now. Plus a ton of unexpected work.
If it isn't possible I'll try to read and vote but yeah, I'm not even sure about that... Hope it won't spoil anyone's fun.
sure. PM me to request replacement
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Night 3
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Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock
The universe itself stops as the scientists make a final decision on who must die today. In fact, had anyone managed to peer outside the windows, they would see themselves surrounded by the same scene repeating ten thousand times in ten thousand versions of the same lab, each replicating the scene exactly. However, everyone's attention was too rapt on the drama occurring inside to take in the view outside the windows of the lab.
Six men faced inwards towards a terrified figure that stood next to the Time Anchor. "You'll, never take me alive!" michaelthe babbled in a panic. "I will die for the sake of chaos! Anarchy will rise triumphant" he said, thumbing a detonator, as the crowd looked on silently. "You don't think I will, do you! I will, I will, I will!" michaelthe repeated, thumbing the detonator nervously.
A sudden explosion shook the lab, causing the walls to shake, and michaelthe pressed the detonator, spraying the walls with blood. Outside, the mirrorlike nature of the landscape shatters, the mirrored labs break off and seem to zoom off into space, disaster has been averted. For now.
michaelthe the Mafia Goon has been lynched.
You know the drill.
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wow, this place really is a ghost town.
BUT. we got one. two left to go, and we're good. We can collect our thoughts today, and go right into day 4 (i think it is) with a plan. So, it might be a good idea to at least post your thoughts if you think you have a chance of dying tonight.
for me, i am still running BlueyD and Ninja. i am less sure about ninja, and it sucks that he might be replaced.
Mementoss seems even more inno to me now, as michael's desperation target was him. I doubt that he would have tried to bus a fellow mafia before he died, but thats WIFOM.
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Whew, finally got one.
Sorry I haven't been active, real life stuff getting in the way. There wasn't all that much urgent stuff to deal with in the town anyway - well, apart from the fact that you guys seem to be about to lynch me, but I still have a while before even that happens. It was pretty clear michaelthe was our lynch choice for today, anyway.
I'll get to what I gotta do in 2 days, or maybe late tomorrow night. I still have to post an analysis of mementoss as I said I would, too.
If anyone but Artanis gets scumhit tomorrow, I will be extremely surprised.
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Nice!
Right now my feeling on the lynch tommorrow is either Nova_Terra or BlueyD
Here is the list of remaining players with the top 2 being confirmed town (from my perspective):
Artanis
Mementoss
BlueyD
Nova_Terra
Virtu
Ninja4ever
That means we have a 50% chance of lynching a mafia. I think we should stick to lynching either BlueyD or Nova_Terra while putting pressure on Virtu and Ninja4ever to post. Right now I feel like a lynch on virtu or ninja is a complete guess, because of there poor activity. Which is a shame. I am leaning BlueyD for tommorrows lynch > Nova Terra right now.
WIFOM:
When michael knew he was going down, you'd think he would just keep his mouth shut. Honestly I don't think his team would want him trying to bring them down with him. He tried to bring me down, but he also tried to bring a lot of attention back to the Nova Case, even though I already explained myself. Purely WIFOM
This lynch will give us a lot of information I feel, because if BlueyD flips scum I doubt Nova is scum. Nova put the first case on him (seems super early to make an analysis case on team) as well as advocated another case on him recently. If nova flips scum, blueyd still could be scum but its less likely. Its possible that they're on the same team. But doesn't seem likely to me right now.
Between Ninja4ever and Virtu its a complete guess. WIFOM, BlueyD flips scum, ninja4ever might be innocent, as BlueyD was already Bussing michael, I doubt he would risk throwing another team mate under the bus. Keep posting guys, the mafia kills have been random so post everything you think or you might die. lol.
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Okay, thats a start as least, but as a question for you mementoss, why do you not seem to suspect ninja much when his relatively few posts (and behavior itself) has been scummy? Just lurking itself is something scummy.
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