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On March 30 2012 09:46 Kohbee wrote: A lot of you are definately on to something reading into Zealos and Xatalos. Personally I believe heavily in the cases presented by Mattchew, Jitsu, and to some extent chaoser.
Hm... I'll give you some time to prove to be pro-town, since you just replaced gumshoe, but this isn't a good start. To me, this just looks like a Mafia-manipulated bandwagon easy to jump on at this point 
Jitsu, I never said you'd be a good lynch after I saw your case against me (like Mattchew said after I voted for him earlier)... I was just surprised that you made a case against me, at the same time as my verdict on you was "bad lynch". I still think so, although I'm a bit suspicious of focusing on me over some much better targets. And how was my opinion list suspicious..? I think it was Oberyn who said that Mafia hate to give their opinions, because it'll be a pain in the future (more difficulties saving teammates later etc.). Since Oberyn was proved town later on, I'm willing to believe him.
I'll put my vote on GreYMisT now, since I'm not as convinced about any other lynch target. I hope I don't have to change it later just to make the difference between a medium lynch and a bad lynch...
##Vote GreYMisT
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(Btw Zealos, you didn't vote in the voting thread yet...)
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I know, I won't vote until near the deadline for the voting thread. The votes in here is just my current desision.
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On March 30 2012 19:13 Zealos wrote: I know, I won't vote until near the deadline for the voting thread. The votes in here is just my current desision.
I have to go o a funeral today, but I have enough of a spare moment to say: "what?"
Why not vote in the voting thread? its not like a vote there is set in stone, you have until the end of the day to alter it...
Sounds like someone is afraid of being committed to a vote, and is setting themselves up for an escape if need be
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Wow, you really do like to pick at every little thing. I do it because I'm lazy, and it's the easiest thing to do. The votes here is the vote I would chose if I were the end of the day. You really are determined for a bandwagon against me, and it's really starting to show.
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Been up all night studying for a test. Will be done with it in the next 2 hours and will hopefully make a post before the crash. I have a JAM packed weekend this weekend, so my posting is going to be sparse, but I'll do my best to contribute where I can.
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On March 30 2012 16:57 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 09:46 Kohbee wrote: A lot of you are definately on to something reading into Zealos and Xatalos. Personally I believe heavily in the cases presented by Mattchew, Jitsu, and to some extent chaoser.
Hm... I'll give you some time to prove to be pro-town, since you just replaced gumshoe, but this isn't a good start. To me, this just looks like a Mafia-manipulated bandwagon easy to jump on at this point  Jitsu, I never said you'd be a good lynch after I saw your case against me (like Mattchew said after I voted for him earlier)... I was just surprised that you made a case against me, at the same time as my verdict on you was "bad lynch". I still think so, although I'm a bit suspicious of focusing on me over some much better targets. And how was my opinion list suspicious..? I think it was Oberyn who said that Mafia hate to give their opinions, because it'll be a pain in the future (more difficulties saving teammates later etc.). Since Oberyn was proved town later on, I'm willing to believe him. I'll put my vote on GreYMisT now, since I'm not as convinced about any other lynch target. I hope I don't have to change it later just to make the difference between a medium lynch and a bad lynch... ##Vote GreYMisT
Give me some time to be pro-town? Are you trying to buddy me cause that just sounds terrible. You should give me time to get a read on me, not have me play how you expect me to play.
Your lynch system is awfully scummy in my opinion. It looks like you are trying to blend in with opinions but don't want to take a firm stance anywhere but Greymist. You also don't seem to be doing any actual scum hunting just posting weak lists and trying to fade away (you're posting has become more and more distant as the game progresses).
On March 30 2012 23:53 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 19:13 Zealos wrote: I know, I won't vote until near the deadline for the voting thread. The votes in here is just my current desision. I have to go o a funeral today, but I have enough of a spare moment to say: "what?" Why not vote in the voting thread? its not like a vote there is set in stone, you have until the end of the day to alter it... Sounds like someone is afraid of being committed to a vote, and is setting themselves up for an escape if need be I completely agree with GreYMisT. You have had next to no solid opinions and seem to want to ride the coattails of others while only fighting over opinions that you knew others agreed with you on. I think you are scum. I will be voting for you.
##vote Zealos
One other thing of note is that lyter seems to still be active outside of this thread which is also true of evantrees to a much lesser extent. I think that 1 of these 2 is scum and should be strongly considered. Neither has contributed much of anything to the game and seem to be gliding along not really caring about town's discussions and direction.
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Greymist, Kohbee, both scum. Your whole post consisted of defending greymist, then agreeing with greymist on what was already a shit case based on pedantics. You say I have no solid opinions despite me saying that I find Grey scummy, and the irony of you talking about riding on other people's opinions is pretty sad.
Also, having a go at someone for giving you the benefit of the doubt? You seem awfully keen to stir up whatever trouble you can.
I'll be voting Grey today, and Kohbee tomorrow. I'm off for a bit now, later.
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On March 31 2012 00:31 Zealos wrote: Greymist, Kohbee, both scum. Your whole post consisted of defending greymist, then agreeing with greymist on what was already a shit case based on pedantics. You say I have no solid opinions despite me saying that I find Grey scummy, and the irony of you talking about riding on other people's opinions is pretty sad.
Also, having a go at someone for giving you the benefit of the doubt? You seem awfully keen to stir up whatever trouble you can.
I'll be voting Grey today, and Kohbee tomorrow. I'm off for a bit now, later. My post does nothing to defend greymist of anything. I see that you like to bring up the fact that people stir up trouble as something scummy. + Show Spoiler +On March 23 2012 04:43 Zealos wrote:@Acro Matthew is... Weird. He makes some perfectly valid points, but also seems to make some rather moot ones. Although looking at the filter, he makes a LOT of accusations, without having all that much reason. For instance + Show Spoiler +oh so your his scum teammate? explain to me why you are not scum.
you have 90 minutes
then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! i say we lynch acrofales and everyone that has defended him I would be all about a Xatalos lynching today. He posts reek of "I want to look like the rest of you"
We should lynch Oberyn He seems to constantly switch targets, and it seems like he wants to stir up confusion. Although he almost seems too obvious in the way he does it, which could just be bad town. Summary: I would certainly say suspicious, but not 100% mafia yet, but should no better targets appear, would be a reasonable day 1 lynch. On March 27 2012 04:03 Zealos wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ok, I was going to wait until tomorrow, however, his most recent post just tipped me over the edge. Mattchew is the 2nd mafia, and my lynch choice for tomorrow. He very rarely makes useful posts, and right from the start has posted a ton of spam and filler. Examples: On March 22 2012 00:25 Mattchew wrote: lolololololol im going to assume this is sandroba? oh so your his scum teammate? explain to me why you are not scum.
you have 90 minutes where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum wut? OMG 5 WHOLE POSTS ABOUT HIM 3 OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SERIOUS? NO WAYYYYY wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town i said it here too herpderp speaking in absolutes is not scum slipping herpderp my first game ever where I was scared to post. (Apparently not) me and SLG <3 vague posts. (Irony) btw defense is completely overrated. I do it cause i have too much fucking time to hawk the thread
I'm down with ignoring risen wbg acro And mr zentos completely
Welcome to TL Mafia. wut? you have to be joking When was the last time he made a decent case against anyone? He appears to stir up controversy and limit discussion wherever he goes. He's also one of the only people really defending Risen, so there could be a possible link there. However, this will be much more apparent should Risen flip mafia tonight (Assuming lynch) On March 27 2012 20:56 Zealos wrote: Mattchew, can you make a good case instead of posting annoying 1 liners designed to stir up controversy, or should I just vote for you now? This hasn't exactly worked out for the benefit of town with you saying this about Mattchew and noone else. Since when is stirring things up and forcing reactions out of people a scum thing?
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I like how you pick and chose certain posts, while ignoring the ones where I just say that he's a bad townie, not mafia, not to mention only suspecting Mattchew had Risen flipped mafia.
Oh, and lying about what you posted earlier in a page in a thread is pretty stupid:
Your lynch system is awfully scummy in my opinion. It looks like you are trying to blend in with opinions but don't want to take a firm stance anywhere but Greymist. -- The sort of soft defence that suits mafia trying to defend one another while not being too conspicuous.
Then I completely agree with GreYMisT. You have had next to no solid opinions and seem to want to ride the coattails of others while only fighting over opinions that you knew others agreed with you on. I think you are scum. I will be voting for you.
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On March 31 2012 02:14 Zealos wrote:I like how you pick and chose certain posts, while ignoring the ones where I just say that he's a bad townie, not mafia, not to mention only suspecting Mattchew had Risen flipped mafia. Oh, and lying about what you posted earlier in a page in a thread is pretty stupid: Show nested quote +Your lynch system is awfully scummy in my opinion. It looks like you are trying to blend in with opinions but don't want to take a firm stance anywhere but Greymist. -- The sort of soft defence that suits mafia trying to defend one another while not being too conspicuous. Then Show nested quote +I completely agree with GreYMisT. You have had next to no solid opinions and seem to want to ride the coattails of others while only fighting over opinions that you knew others agreed with you on. I think you are scum. I will be voting for you. blending in with opinions = no solid opinions. I have not lied and you are trying to slander me.
You are also lying about only suspecting Mattchew if Risen should flip scum. You mentioned being extremely suspicious of him before Risen even became a factor in the thread because of his stirring it up.
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Ok, lets just take it nice and slowly for you. What is a solid opinion?
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Also, if you bring up suspicions about Mattchew from the start of the game, does that mean Acro being my first, and number one target at the start of the match make me confirmed townie? Stop picking one or 2 of my posts, and if you look at my overall posting you will see it is pro-town.
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How can you say that when you never voted acrofales, only asked him questions and on the same day cycle used this against mattchew? Why are you trying to take credit for finding scum when you defended him and helped him post better?
On March 23 2012 04:44 Zealos wrote: Not to mention him being incredibly anti Acrofales.
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So you avoid the really basic question I asked, only to post a very irrelevant quote. At the time Mattchew was very very anti Acro when it was unwarranted. I still voted for him, and this was just to point out he was somewhat tunnelling. He also switched vote off acro later that day, and he wasn't mafia.
Please, instead of just throwing quotes out here there and everywhere, can you make a case that means something, because at the moment, you are useless to the town even if I was mafia.
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I think my favorite part is the way my soft accusation against you elicited such a hard and forocious defense.
I hadn't even voted you yet, but I sure am now.
##Vote: Zealos
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I wasn't even responding to you?
God, this game is like, designed for trolls that go round making rubbish arguments over the internet :X
Oh well, what can you do, hopefully other people in the game see sense, and if not, you and Kohbee both look super suspicious when I get lynched.
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Zealos, can you link me to your case against GreYMisT?
You seem to be tunneling him fairly hard and want him dead, yet the only case I've seen in your filter is directed to Risen. Care to share your thoughts on why GreyMist should be dying tonight?
Also, what do you think of my case on Xatalos?
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##vote: risk.nuke
On March 31 2012 06:41 Jitsu wrote: Zealos, can you link me to your case against GreYMisT?
You seem to be tunneling him fairly hard and want him dead, yet the only case I've seen in your filter is directed to Risen. Care to share your thoughts on why GreyMist should be dying tonight?
Also, what do you think of my case on Xatalos?
He doesn't have a case against him. This is the last mention of greymist from him before Mattchew and risk.nuke posted their suspicions on greymist. He thinks grey is townish.
On March 22 2012 23:13 Zealos wrote: Simply put: If you had to kill one person now, who would it be (Other than lurkers) The reason on the sudden flip about Grey was me being overeager to have an opinion, and not consider the fact it may well be a joke.
As for the copy of opinions already voiced, for me personally, if I agree with someone, I would rather elaborate on what they have said, rather than I simpler QFT or such.
Though I'm not sure where I defended gumshoe?
All of a sudden he changes to:
On March 29 2012 17:21 Zealos wrote: I think with Mattchew still playing and trying to lead the town on with his terrible leads is gonna lead to a mafia win, that being said, he clearly isn't scum. I wanna hear more from Greymist ##vote Greymist
in which he says he wants to hear more from greymist but this soon turns into straight up tunneling of greymist on the bullshit reasoning of:
On March 29 2012 17:43 Zealos wrote: Lol, night time, derp. Though after reading over Grey's filter it does seem "Convineint" that whenever the town gets a false lead such as risen, he becomes quiet and leaves us to lynch him, no words for or agaisnt.
I'm ok with lynching either risk or zealos but i'd rather lynch the former.
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I know Chaoser, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Also Zealos, what do you think of my case on Xatalos?
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