A Game of Thrones Mafia - Page 61

On March 29 2012 17:43 Zealos wrote:
Lol, night time, derp.
Though after reading over Grey's filter it does seem "Convineint" that whenever the town gets a false lead such as risen, he becomes quiet and leaves us to lynch him, no words for or agaisnt.

On March 29 2012 16:15 risk.nuke wrote:
Chaoser, your filter is completely useless. What do you want and expect me to make out of that?

On March 29 2012 15:59 risk.nuke wrote:
It sounds as if you think YOUR filter is better this his.

On March 29 2012 21:46 GreYMisT wrote:


I voted for risen....

On March 29 2012 23:22 Mattchew wrote:
Unless chaoser is the boldest scum ever (pressure voting a 1st game teammate 11 posts into the game) I think you are both town.

Chaoser care to share with us any reads or something useful?

On March 30 2012 03:29 Xatalos wrote:
Mattchew: I really didn't like his confusing and disruptive way to play on day 1

On March 30 2012 02:59 Jitsu wrote:
Hmmm, I just reread some shit on Xatalos. I think he would be an even more of a solid lynch candidate.

Let’s look at the facts.

Early on, chaoser strikes gold but randomly picking Arcofales for a lynch target. Yeah, it was random, but it was a good, lucky hit regardless. I looked back at the entire portion of the thread to see reactions from players. Some got aggressive at chaoser, which could be construed as Scum trying to soft-defend their bro by chainsawing chaoser for getting lucky.

Among those is this post by Xatalos:

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The first thing I noted was the awkward placing of the smiley face. It may seem small, but it’s a gesture of “Hey, I’m accusing you of being bad, but doing take me too seriously.” He then says that, in his experience, random lynchers are usually Mafia or trolls. He deduces that chaoser and risk.nuke have a higher chance of being town then Mafia.

That sets the basis. The only reason to set the standard of a joking townie is if you are waffling. Are you a waffle Xatalos? Maybe you are, but I think it’s more likely you are scum.

In the end, he accuses chaoser and risk.nuke of having the highest chance, at that time, of being scum. Not a generally great deduction, but it’s a deduction none-the-less.

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There is one post between this one, and the first one involved in this case. He literally changes his stance on everything, 100% reverse of what he said in the first post. Why? What happened between the two points? Did you have a revelation? Did someone outside of the thread tell you to stop wafflin’? With someone who claims to have a good amount of SC2 Mafia playtime, you sure do waffle a lot.

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Then, we come back to Xatalos pushing Acrofales.

We know now that Acrofales was a scum player, but Xatalos thinks that Arcofales has a solid chance of being mafia now because of his self-defense of being random chosen by chaoser. He still doesn’t want to vote for lynching someone as “somewhat likely” mafia…why? Coming from a town point of view, why would you not want to vote for someone who presented themselves as “somewhat likely” Mafia? I’m not the best town player in the world, but I know that if I catch the smell of blood in the air, I’m going to go after it. I’m sure a great number of people here know me for tunneling, so you could probably vouch for it.

So, where are we? Xatalos been wafflin’, says in a round-a-bout way that Acrofales looks “somewhat likely” Mafia, and then does what?

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Doesn't even put any of his votes on him. Settles instead for someone with one other vote.

Overall Posting History This Game:
Unhelpful Lurky

His filter is extremely easy to read through, and there isn’t much there that is helpful to pushing anything towards town. The thing that strikes out at me, is that even though he claims earlier that he might think Arcofales is “somewhat likely” Mafia, his overall agenda almost feels like he’s trying to keep him alive. Other than that, nothing stands out as exceptionally helpful towards a town-orientated goal, but that’s not saying anything much with the amount of filter I’ve seen so far.


Previous Game Posting History
No sample to take information from.


Additional Points:
- Twice, Xatalos presents possible doubt in his mind that Risen might be a Detective. Votes for him anyway.

- Early game, places way too many smiles. Looks like he’s trying to hide his inherent guilt by doing dumb shit and pretending to be a jokester.

- E’ryday we’re wafflin’.

On March 30 2012 03:29 Xatalos wrote:

Zealos: Apparently some think he's suspicious, but I don't really see it. He's been very active, contributing and created a pro-town atmosphere. Unless I see something damning from him, I'm not willing to vote for him. Verdict: Bad lynch.

risk.nuke: I was a bit suspicious of him after his first posts, but his later posts have been a lot more contributive. I'm not sold on either his innocence or guiltiness yet. Verdict: Medium lynch.

Alderan: He hasn't contributed very much, but isn't really a lurker either. Not a very bad lynch choice, but not among the best. Verdict: Medium lynch.

chaoser: Clearly has experience in playing, but hasn't contributed much, disregarding some of the more trivial discussion. A semi-lurker who doesn't look very pro-town, but not anti-town either. Verdict: Medium lynch.

Lyter: Has contributed little and posted seldom. Something feels off, but not a top lynch yet. Verdict: Medium lynch.

sinensis: Doesn't look very interested in adding to the discussion, voting without much explanation or contribution. Apparently suspects evantrees mainly, but doesn't push his lynch other than voting for him. Verdict: Medium lynch.

evantrees: A hardcore lurker without real contribution. Certainly feels a bit suspicious, but could also be a disinterested townie. Verdict: Medium lynch.

GreYMisT: Also an experienced player, but hasn't contributed much or often. Was the runner-up in day 1 lynch, but wasn't voted by even a single Mafia player. Both him and chaoser haven't done much to help town, but GreYMisT feels more suspicious to me. Verdict: Good lynch.

So, I'll probably be voting for GreYMisT tomorrow if I can.

On March 30 2012 03:43 Mattchew wrote:

So he has been "active, contributing and created a pro-town atmosphere." 2 of these have literally 0 to do with alignment. And his dumbass argument with me about Risen was actually disruptive as fuck to the thread during that day.

"If you guys start to vote risk.nuke i will too because he's town and I like lynching townies" - this paraphrased

Wish-wash no firm stance

meh idk. I haven't seen a decent case against greymist and it looks like risk.nuke's relentless pushing (without much content) is snowballing up.


barring unforeseen circumstances I cannot see this being a good decision.

On March 30 2012 03:36 Zealos wrote:
I really don't understand what makes me a good lynch target. Day 1 I called out Acro for being suspicious for his first post. I mean, I might have been trying to blend in, but it surely it would have been easier and less suspicious for Acro had I not said anything? Also, when Risen was being lynched anyway, surely as a mafia it would have been better to just vote and not say much, instead I was the one most pushing for the lynch. Why would I put the effort forward to do that as mafia if I knew that he was going to be killed anyway?

On March 30 2012 03:51 Zealos wrote:

I know this might be shocking, and really hard for you to understand, but when 2 people disagree and argue, it's both people arguing. If you don't like me disagreeing with you then disagree, but don't try to make a vote out of it.

On March 26 2012 05:21 Zealos wrote:
Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on.

On March 26 2012 06:20 Zealos wrote:



There we go, so why no Mattchew check?

On March 27 2012 01:31 Zealos wrote:

It's pretty simple. If you are sure someone is mafia, then checking them isn't useful.