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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 24 2012 19:20 GMT
#681
Please remember to send all night actions to both VisceraEyes and myself.
wat
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
March 24 2012 19:20 GMT
#682
On March 25 2012 03:31 Acrofales wrote:
MrZentor, you're posting a cipher, and will later give us a magical key that will read whatever the hell you like? It is almost as transparent as WBG's RNG vote. Hey guys, if I F5 the RNG often enough it'll tell me to lynch myself, trololololol!


No. I have a message that I need to say later, but I need to prove that I had it now, so I decided to do it this way.


On March 25 2012 03:55 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. I'll start with my top scum targets of yesterday:

Mattchew
His posts last night actually sound to me like town, despite his trolling of me. Btw, I checked and my count was fairly right, despite being drunk. You didn't unvote your prior vote, so technically you were still voting for Oberyn. Not that it matters.

Reasons he is dropping on my scumometer: was trying to make sense of the clusterfuck of a lynch and seemed to be honestly concerned about the lynch target. I am neutral on his defense of Layabout, because it is really easy for mafia to defend a townie at the last minute: they know he's town and posting something in his favour is easy as hell.

I also like his final vote on Evantrees and regret my choice to try to get a lynch on Nicolas going just before I went to bed: that vote was wasted, and if I had chosen Evantrees, there's a good chance we would have lynched his useless ass, instead of Layabout who actually posted something useful from time to time.

VERDICT: suspicious, but no longer prime suspect (see below).

Gumshoe
Posted absolutely nothing during all of yesterday, but already had his vote on Layabout from the very start! It would be so fucking easy for mafia to organize a bandwagon and tell gumshoe to shut up, because he was for some reason flying completely under the radar. WTF. In fact, why the hell did we not lynch gumshoe yesterday? GRAFADSFADSAFGDFGA.

VERDICT: SCUM

Zealos
Was entirely absent all of yesterday. No change in opinion one way or the other.

VERDICT: suspicious.

Now for those who recently appeared on my radar.

Greymist: it is impossible to not take Greymist into account.
The problem I have with the case against Greymist is that it is almost exclusively built on derps misunderstanding sarcasm. This seems almost too easy for Mafia to jump on. I am therefore going to suggest a novel theory: Greymist is just as innocent as Layabout.
I guess that sorta nullifies my earlier post about MrZentor, because it cannot be that Greymist is innocent and MrZentor is trying to protect his scumbuddy Greymist. I previously had town reads on MrZentor and the only blip was his vote for Layabout. While I still think his reason for jumping on Layabout was bad, it's probably not a scumtell.

VERDICT: Greymist and MrZentor -- town.

SLJ:
Started the case against Layabout on wishywashy reasons. They then couldn't be bothered to hop off layabout when he was in danger, and are blaming sheeples for lynching him. This is either TERRIBLE town or TERRIBLE scum. Both seem highly out of character. My vote is actually to vig shot them and put Syllo at the very least out of his misery.

VERDICT: Suspicious (together with Alderan rapidly approaching Mattchew for 2nd place on the scumometer standings), but maybe just doesn't actually want to play the game and can't be fucked.

Alderan and Risen:

VERDICT: sheeples. Risen's posts today and yesterday seem okay, if replete with horrible analysis. Alderan was slightly dodgy to start with and his vote for Layabout did not improve my opinion for him. Risen is probably town and Alderan is competing with SLJ for the third place on the scumometer.


*facepalm*

I didn't vote for layabout. I voted for greymst. In fact, I remember calling the lynch retarded before it happened, because there really was no reason to think Layabout was mafia.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
March 24 2012 19:25 GMT
#683
On March 25 2012 04:20 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:31 Acrofales wrote:
MrZentor, you're posting a cipher, and will later give us a magical key that will read whatever the hell you like? It is almost as transparent as WBG's RNG vote. Hey guys, if I F5 the RNG often enough it'll tell me to lynch myself, trololololol!


No. I have a message that I need to say later, but I need to prove that I had it now, so I decided to do it this way.


Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:55 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. I'll start with my top scum targets of yesterday:

Mattchew
His posts last night actually sound to me like town, despite his trolling of me. Btw, I checked and my count was fairly right, despite being drunk. You didn't unvote your prior vote, so technically you were still voting for Oberyn. Not that it matters.

Reasons he is dropping on my scumometer: was trying to make sense of the clusterfuck of a lynch and seemed to be honestly concerned about the lynch target. I am neutral on his defense of Layabout, because it is really easy for mafia to defend a townie at the last minute: they know he's town and posting something in his favour is easy as hell.

I also like his final vote on Evantrees and regret my choice to try to get a lynch on Nicolas going just before I went to bed: that vote was wasted, and if I had chosen Evantrees, there's a good chance we would have lynched his useless ass, instead of Layabout who actually posted something useful from time to time.

VERDICT: suspicious, but no longer prime suspect (see below).

Gumshoe
Posted absolutely nothing during all of yesterday, but already had his vote on Layabout from the very start! It would be so fucking easy for mafia to organize a bandwagon and tell gumshoe to shut up, because he was for some reason flying completely under the radar. WTF. In fact, why the hell did we not lynch gumshoe yesterday? GRAFADSFADSAFGDFGA.

VERDICT: SCUM

Zealos
Was entirely absent all of yesterday. No change in opinion one way or the other.

VERDICT: suspicious.

Now for those who recently appeared on my radar.

Greymist: it is impossible to not take Greymist into account.
The problem I have with the case against Greymist is that it is almost exclusively built on derps misunderstanding sarcasm. This seems almost too easy for Mafia to jump on. I am therefore going to suggest a novel theory: Greymist is just as innocent as Layabout.
I guess that sorta nullifies my earlier post about MrZentor, because it cannot be that Greymist is innocent and MrZentor is trying to protect his scumbuddy Greymist. I previously had town reads on MrZentor and the only blip was his vote for Layabout. While I still think his reason for jumping on Layabout was bad, it's probably not a scumtell.

VERDICT: Greymist and MrZentor -- town.

SLJ:
Started the case against Layabout on wishywashy reasons. They then couldn't be bothered to hop off layabout when he was in danger, and are blaming sheeples for lynching him. This is either TERRIBLE town or TERRIBLE scum. Both seem highly out of character. My vote is actually to vig shot them and put Syllo at the very least out of his misery.

VERDICT: Suspicious (together with Alderan rapidly approaching Mattchew for 2nd place on the scumometer standings), but maybe just doesn't actually want to play the game and can't be fucked.

Alderan and Risen:

VERDICT: sheeples. Risen's posts today and yesterday seem okay, if replete with horrible analysis. Alderan was slightly dodgy to start with and his vote for Layabout did not improve my opinion for him. Risen is probably town and Alderan is competing with SLJ for the third place on the scumometer.


*facepalm*

I didn't vote for layabout. I voted for greymst. In fact, I remember calling the lynch retarded before it happened, because there really was no reason to think Layabout was mafia.



LOL. Okay. That explains all of my confusion about you. Sorry about earlier. I think I'll quote Mattchew:
On March 24 2012 05:15 Mattchew wrote:
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
March 24 2012 19:26 GMT
#684
However, why do you read scum on Greymist?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
March 24 2012 19:29 GMT
#685
And for clarification: I am quoting Mattchew posting a picture of "me" (thank god I don't actually look like that). I have learnt that people in this thread have a problem understanding humour unless it is written in big bold letters at the top of the post. I am not above a bit of laughing at myself when I do something dumb.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 24 2012 19:32 GMT
#686
Why waste a dt check on greymist to tell us what we who weren't dropped as children already know. If I were a dt I'd check scummy lurkers and crumb the result.
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
March 24 2012 19:37 GMT
#687
On March 25 2012 04:26 Acrofales wrote:
However, why do you read scum on Greymist?


I didn't and still don't think he is scum, but he seemed scummier than Layabout, so there was a higher chance of him being scum.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 24 2012 19:46 GMT
#688
Just in advance: day post may come late today, I am not sure I will be somewhere with internet around the deadline and VisceraEyes is at MLG.
wat
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
March 24 2012 19:55 GMT
#689
On March 25 2012 04:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Why waste a dt check on greymist to tell us what we who weren't dropped as children already know. If I were a dt I'd check scummy lurkers and crumb the result.


/ignore risk.nuke
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
March 24 2012 20:18 GMT
#690
Okay, I checked WBG's filter. I forgot the bit where WBG said he checked Mattchew. I am going to say it is completely and utterly stupid to suggest we can trust WBG based on this.

WBG says Mattchew is town
WBG says the 5th letter from the right in his role name is an A (pulling this out of my ass)
Mattchew says "holy fuck that's right"!

Conclusion:
Mattchew must be town? Trolololololololol DERP
WBG must be trustworthy? Trololololololololol DERP

Now alternatively Mattchew says "trolololol liar"!

Conclusion:
Mattchew must be scum? Trololololol DERP (btw, I'm not saying he's town, just that it doesn't work in this logic)
WBG must be untrustworthy? Hell yes (but anybody using his brain already knew this)

SLJ: what the hell were you hoping to learn from this? You're a veteran player and basically trolling atm. If you're trying to overtake Gumshoe for the dumbest scum in the game you're doing a pretty good job.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
March 24 2012 20:20 GMT
#691
Please, someone vig hit SLJ tonight. He is doing way more harm than good atm.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
March 24 2012 20:22 GMT
#692
And that is hell of a dangerous, because people clearly listen to him, as seen by the Oberyn bandwagon and Layabout lynch.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
March 24 2012 20:24 GMT
#693
On March 25 2012 05:20 Acrofales wrote:
Please, someone vig hit SLJ tonight. He is doing way more harm than good atm.

Everything we've said makes sense. Neither of us is very motivated right now, but I'm growing tired of your asinine assertions

/syllogism
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
March 24 2012 20:28 GMT
#694
On March 25 2012 05:18 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I checked WBG's filter. I forgot the bit where WBG said he checked Mattchew. I am going to say it is completely and utterly stupid to suggest we can trust WBG based on this.

WBG says Mattchew is town
WBG says the 5th letter from the right in his role name is an A (pulling this out of my ass)
Mattchew says "holy fuck that's right"!

Conclusion:
Mattchew must be town? Trolololololololol DERP
WBG must be trustworthy? Trololololololololol DERP

Now alternatively Mattchew says "trolololol liar"!

Conclusion:
Mattchew must be scum? Trololololol DERP (btw, I'm not saying he's town, just that it doesn't work in this logic)
WBG must be untrustworthy? Hell yes (but anybody using his brain already knew this)

SLJ: what the hell were you hoping to learn from this? You're a veteran player and basically trolling atm. If you're trying to overtake Gumshoe for the dumbest scum in the game you're doing a pretty good job.


No one in the game has said we can trust WBG, IDK where you are getting that from.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
March 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#695
On March 25 2012 05:28 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 05:18 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I checked WBG's filter. I forgot the bit where WBG said he checked Mattchew. I am going to say it is completely and utterly stupid to suggest we can trust WBG based on this.

WBG says Mattchew is town
WBG says the 5th letter from the right in his role name is an A (pulling this out of my ass)
Mattchew says "holy fuck that's right"!

Conclusion:
Mattchew must be town? Trolololololololol DERP
WBG must be trustworthy? Trololololololololol DERP

Now alternatively Mattchew says "trolololol liar"!

Conclusion:
Mattchew must be scum? Trololololol DERP (btw, I'm not saying he's town, just that it doesn't work in this logic)
WBG must be untrustworthy? Hell yes (but anybody using his brain already knew this)

SLJ: what the hell were you hoping to learn from this? You're a veteran player and basically trolling atm. If you're trying to overtake Gumshoe for the dumbest scum in the game you're doing a pretty good job.


No one in the game has said we can trust WBG, IDK where you are getting that from.


Here is the latest from SLJ:
On March 25 2012 03:33 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Also @WBG were you bullshitting about having day checks? If you were not probably get his role name. Do you mind saying a letter from his role name plus the backwards position (from the end of the word to the begging) number which that letter is? So that mattchew can confirm you have checks. That is if you are feeling kind and generous <3


WBG earlier this game:
On March 23 2012 20:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 20:46 Mattchew wrote:
wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town


you're right, maybe this will help:

Mattchew is confirmed town, I checked him today.


Connect the dots.

Also (I thought it was a joke in frustration at the lynch, but given the above WTFBBQuotes I'm not so sure anymore):
On March 24 2012 17:13 SamuelLJackson wrote:
WBG let's join forces. I don't want to win with town anymore. I went out at 6 o'clock, I told everyone my case on laya was shit and people still sheep me. Srsly town why the fuck did you lynch laya. I was obviously joking. I realize I sound scummy as fuck. Dun care.

SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
March 24 2012 20:38 GMT
#696
Sandroba was probably slightly drunk when he posted that or joking, doesn't particularly matter. That is an incredibly towny post
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 24 2012 20:47 GMT
#697
Where are you, gumshoe? I can't believe you have been offline for this long... Maybe you're just afraid to post more, since it seems like everyone forgot about you after you disappeared? There are other lurkers, but this seems like the most suspicious lurking so far.

SamuelLJackson and GreYMisT, it seems like you both have been online, but why haven't you answered these matters I have been wondering about?

On March 24 2012 19:36 Xatalos wrote:
GreYMisT's suspicion about gumshoe at the start looked promising, but I have to ask, why did you then switch to Oberyn and layabout and forgot about gumshoe? In my opinion, gumshoe has become increasingly suspicious during the game, not the other way around. I don't think layabout was among the best lynch candidates, and definitely not Oberyn either (he even gave his opinion on every player without hesitation, which would hurt a Mafia player in the future, since he would have a harder time saving his teammates later). Also, SLJ, you are partly to blame about the layabout lynch, even if not intentionally. Why would you vote for him, encourage others to vote for him, then leave the matter be? Where did you exactly "tell everyone your case on layabout was shit"?
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SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
March 24 2012 20:57 GMT
#698
Sandroba can answer that as layabout was his vote and he also made that assertion. Doesn't seem like he specifically said that though I recall him saying that he wasn't really confident about his read. He isn't online right now.

/syllogism
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
March 24 2012 21:00 GMT
#699
On March 25 2012 05:47 Xatalos wrote:
Where are you, gumshoe? I can't believe you have been offline for this long... Maybe you're just afraid to post more, since it seems like everyone forgot about you after you disappeared? There are other lurkers, but this seems like the most suspicious lurking so far.

SamuelLJackson and GreYMisT, it seems like you both have been online, but why haven't you answered these matters I have been wondering about?

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 19:36 Xatalos wrote:
GreYMisT's suspicion about gumshoe at the start looked promising, but I have to ask, why did you then switch to Oberyn and layabout and forgot about gumshoe? In my opinion, gumshoe has become increasingly suspicious during the game, not the other way around. I don't think layabout was among the best lynch candidates, and definitely not Oberyn either (he even gave his opinion on every player without hesitation, which would hurt a Mafia player in the future, since he would have a harder time saving his teammates later). Also, SLJ, you are partly to blame about the layabout lynch, even if not intentionally. Why would you vote for him, encourage others to vote for him, then leave the matter be? Where did you exactly "tell everyone your case on layabout was shit"?


I switched to gumshoe because I began to agree with the majority of people that his mistakes were not particularly malicious. in the end I agree that he posted things that were in fact too dumb to be mafia. While I dont normally agree with statements like that, I will be keeping a very close eye on him, and I expect his posting to improve.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 24 2012 21:07 GMT
#700
If you don't trust me about Mattchew then just kill him and see for yourself.

At any rate, the letters from his role PM:

Fifth = o, tenth = e.

Seventh in second line = a.

Right now my spidy sense tells me sandro is town. Cause he's a boss. However we should kill one of Risen/GreYMisT cause they're scummy.

Oh and Lyter too.
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