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On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.
I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?
Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him. You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you.
That's all he does. His play is so fucking scummy. How the fuck am I the only one on him, why did people switch off this guy? If he's not lynched he needs to be shot n1.
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On March 24 2012 07:17 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:12 Acrofales wrote:
Given that my favourite scum target isn't getting killed anyway I'll start the bandwagon on a modkilled guy!
##unvote
##vote Nicolas I approve this wholeheartedly. Changing my vote since no one will vote for you (reasons for which are beyond me, I still think you're the most viable lynch target, but I'm not the only one with an opinion). Still think you need to be shot by a vig Acro. Hopefully enough people can get off other equally useless votes and just lynch the modkilled guy. We're going to lose Nicolas at lynch time anyways people, in this manner we get a lot more time to see people posting. This is tough... I think evantrees deserves his death for playing so shitty, but I don't think mafia would sit by while one of their own was being lynched either. Where the fuck is Lyter? Why the focus on evantrees and not lyter who is also lurking just as much? This gives me pause, makes me think evantrees is town and lyter is scum.
The lynch is the only tool town has, why waste it on someone who is going to die anyway? between lynching Nicolas and a lurker, choose the lurker.
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On March 24 2012 07:18 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Are we serious? The town has collectively switched lynch targets 3 times in the past 24 hours. Make up your own minds for God's sake. This is one of the most frustrating day 1's I have seen in quite some time. rofl you liar, you love it. cause you're scum.
He's that scum you need to kill to fulfill your win condition. He told me so. You should vote with me!
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posting from hospital, on shift. addressing risk, just because there is a chance others might have posted it doesn't mean greymist posting it is noncontributing. I think I understand your "they are helpful but not TOO helpful" idea in that you think they're relatively "safe" helpful posts to make. Is that correct? But then what is the difference between greymist and any number of players in here making "safe helpful" posts.
I still don't see the "greymist wasn't joking". Curu posted that WBG is unlynchable and unkillable. What kind of "confusion" or "useless discussion" is greymist trying to start by making a statement that's obviously so out there that it could be written off as a joke straight up?
This just looks like you're doubling down on this "greymist wasn't joking" angle aka misrepresenting. What do you think about nicholas?
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On March 24 2012 07:19 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:18 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 24 2012 07:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Are we serious? The town has collectively switched lynch targets 3 times in the past 24 hours. Make up your own minds for God's sake. This is one of the most frustrating day 1's I have seen in quite some time. rofl you liar, you love it. cause you're scum. He's that scum you need to kill to fulfill your win condition. He told me so. You should vote with me!
if you say so, clearly you know my wincon better than I do.
##unvote
##vote GreYMisT
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On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.
I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?
Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him. You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you.
Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled.
Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place.
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On March 24 2012 07:18 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:05 Alderan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 24 2012 03:40 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 19:13 Acrofales wrote:
I am not getting a scum read on Alderan. I have read DoYouHas' case and it seems to be entirely built from meta. Now I am inclined to disregard meta-arguments except for those people who know each other really well: one prior game does not make a very good analysis. Particularly it seems as if DoYouHas' argument hinges on Alderan playing the same in both games, which according to him is suspicious. WTF. Other than that I have gone through Alderan's filter, and while he does not seem to be contributing much, his few content posts seem town-oriented.
My case against Alderan does not hinge upon his meta (which btw, I have played 2 games with him. 1 scum, 1 town). That is what tipped me towards him being scum. I know there is a stigma against using meta against anyone that isn't a complete vet, but I think when a person says they screwed the town with their inactivity and apologize for it in their last game, it SHOULD be a red flag when that person posts little and avoids making cases or taking stands. But let's move past meta, because my case really hinges upon the fact that Alderan has been spreading around suspicion while avoiding the spotlight of actually making a case. We are about 6 hours out from the deadline. Alderan has been suspicious of Lyter, Acro, Matt, Grey, Zealos, Layabout, and now SLJ. But he has not really pressured any of these people (with the possible exception of Layabout, but I happen to disagree with him that Layabout's posts have been scummy). Instead, he posts a short reason why they are suspicious, immediately drops it, and moves on to someone else. I find that behavior to be very anti-town. Alderan is good enough to realize (yes, he is) that if you want reactions you need to actually push someone. He has given no reason for anyone whom he suspects to take him seriously, because he isn't really trying to convince the rest of us. He just wants to look like he is scumhunting, without actually doing it. Even now his vote is on Layabout because he had "been lurking, and when you do actually post it's just one liners or one liners with a lot quoted. You have provided nothing to the town". I find that strange because when I look at Layabout's filter I see him making it clear who he thinks is scummy and why, defending those thoughts, and pointing out voting that seems inconsistent. It is true that his filter is pretty sparse, but I definitely don't find it to be absent any substance and/or scummy. If Alderan was really going to choose a lurker why not Evan? Evan has an even shorter filter than Layabout's and has a poorly explained vote on Mattchew to top it off. Then there is Alderan's bungling of Greymist and gumshoe. There was no reason for him to wait on his Greymist case or act like he was still null towards gumshoe. And even after gumshoe came back without disproving Alderan's case, Alderan decides to vote Layabout instead of Greymist. Alderan keeps going through the song and dance of scum hunting, but he never actually gets around to doing it. Can we please start this game off on the right foot and lynch Alderan? About the Greymist/gumshoe thing. Yes it does make sense to wait on gumshoe to post. Why would I create a post saying why I think gumshoe is town BEFORE he actually defends himself. I was basing my analysis off of 2 posts, so I was not totally sure if I was indeed correct. Had I posted prior to his defense, I would have given him ammunition if he was in fact scum. That's not something I'm ever going to do. I try to let everyone defend themselves first. It just makes sense. I do agree with you about Evan, I just had not taken a look at his filter at the time and had not realized the extent of his lurkiness. As for Layabout, he's doing the same thing you accuse me of (being suspicious of a lot of people) but you make no note of it. Look back at his filter. Here are his suspicions: - Suspicious of Xatalos - Suspicious of Evantrees - Suspicious of Oberyn - Suspicious of Nicholas - Suspicious of Gumshoe - Suspicious of me - No longer suspicious of Oberyn. How can you ignore this (which literally makes up every single one of his posts) and focus on me. I'm at least generating discussion. Layabout has done NOTHING but lurk and cast suspicion. He votes for me, because he doesn't think that I think that he is scum and he thinks I am sheeping with SLJ. Compare the case against me and the case against Layabout. Use your head. Bitch i haven't even read xat or evan's or nicholas's posts. Upon reflection i think i will, gimme a sec
Why the hell are you needing to read Nicolas' posts? The guy is being modkilled.
On March 24 2012 07:19 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:18 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 24 2012 07:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Are we serious? The town has collectively switched lynch targets 3 times in the past 24 hours. Make up your own minds for God's sake. This is one of the most frustrating day 1's I have seen in quite some time. rofl you liar, you love it. cause you're scum. He's that scum you need to kill to fulfill your win condition. He told me so. You should vote with me!
Don't shit up the thread responding to the guy you should be ignoring entirely.
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On March 24 2012 07:20 chaoser wrote:
posting from hospital, on shift. addressing risk, just because there is a chance others might have posted it doesn't mean greymist posting it is noncontributing. I think I understand your "they are helpful but not TOO helpful" idea in that you think they're relatively "safe" helpful posts to make. Is that correct? But then what is the difference between greymist and any number of players in here making "safe helpful" posts.
I still don't see the "greymist wasn't joking". Curu posted that WBG is unlynchable and unkillable. What kind of "confusion" or "useless discussion" is greymist trying to start by making a statement that's obviously so out there that it could be written off as a joke straight up?
This just looks like you're doubling down on this "greymist wasn't joking" angle aka misrepresenting. What do you think about nicholas?
Chaoser, Ignore risk for now. What do you think about the 5 major lynch candidates we have today?
What is your opinion on Obryn and Acro?
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Xatalos + Evantrees
+ Show Spoiler +On March 22 2012 20:56 layabout wrote:I wanted to replace into this game because I <3 these books and this game both of which are of epic proportions. But i may be alive in another game (or two) Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 17:15 Xatalos wrote:On March 21 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
hi I'm vanilla town Wasn't Petyr supposed to be a neutral party...? Anyways, glad the game started  I hope the first day lynch won't be just a random lynch, like it usually is in the SC2 Mafia mod. At least here we have more time to "read" players and everyone has to post! Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 17:30 evantrees wrote:Oh my starting already. On March 21 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
hi I'm vanilla town Lynch the Liar! Where other men wield swords, he prefers the dagger.Bugs are you going to be killing people on us or do you get to do something more amusing? I think that we should kill one of these two because the first people to call bull on a claim are scum a hugely disproportionate amount of the time. + Show Spoiler +I seem to remeber BC telling me this in strom mafia only for him to discover that everyone on our team other than him had pounced on redFF's tracker claim already I suppose it's because scum want to encourage poor discussion spread distrust or push their agenda.. blah blah.
Nicholas
+ Show Spoiler +On March 22 2012 21:27 layabout wrote:
Is directly asking for a role claim scummy?
I would be more inclined to vote for somebody that is trying to tell me that it is.
cough Nicolas cough
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LOL "five major lynch candidates"
aka scum team's dream
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On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.
I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?
Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him. You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you. Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled. Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place.
Right, cause your vote on the guy who is going to get modkilled is "usefull"
There is a difference between useless and useless while trying to appear usefull. Oberyn is the latter.
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nvm on nicholas, curu just told me he's going to be modkilled
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On March 24 2012 07:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Are we serious? The town has collectively switched lynch targets 3 times in the past 24 hours. Make up your own minds for God's sake. This is one of the most frustrating day 1's I have seen in quite some time.
How is that frustrating and has town really "collectively switched lynch targets 3 times"? Your frustration doesn't feel genuine to me
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On March 24 2012 07:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote:On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.
I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?
Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him. You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you. Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled. Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place. Right, cause your vote on the guy who is going to get modkilled is "usefull" There is a difference between useless and useless while trying to appear usefull. Oberyn is the latter.
You could replace "Oberyn" with almost any name in the thread and the statement would still be valid.
Hell, I'm the most pro-town player in here.
I have the names of all the scum team and you homos won't listen to a word I say.
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On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.
I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?
Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him. You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you. Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled. Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place.
How the fuck is your vote on Mattchew going to be wasted? He's tied for the lead! He made it to 3 BEFORE evantrees. This goes back to what I was saying earlier, Acro is sitting here shitting up the thread with useless posts tunneling Mattchew.
I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES
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i am switching
##vote GreYMisT
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On March 24 2012 07:24 SamuelLJackson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 07:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Are we serious? The town has collectively switched lynch targets 3 times in the past 24 hours. Make up your own minds for God's sake. This is one of the most frustrating day 1's I have seen in quite some time. How is that frustrating and has town really "collectively switched lynch targets 3 times"? Your frustration doesn't feel genuine to me
yes, yes they have.
1st was Oberyn, second was mattchew, and now we are onto evantrees or layabout.
its frustrating because if you read every time you make a statement in the thread where you say "X" is scum, over half the players just vote with you. Then you jump somewhere else and they follow right along.
On top of that I have risk who is convinced i wasnt joking when i said to lynch bugs, and I have bugs who someone thought was a good idea to give him an unkillable role.
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On March 24 2012 07:26 layabout wrote:
i am switching
##vote GreYMisT
What the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk, you're basing this off the words of an inconsistent wbg? zzzzzzzzzz
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Layabout, please dont make me switch my vote to you after I complained about people switching votes.
Don't you know how that will look to WBG?
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at grey: 5 major lynch targets basically means town has no idea what it's doing. we should be condensing our targets to 2 to 3 people max. i don't understand why people are voting evantree at all. that's literally saying, fuck it, lets lynch a lurker. I'd rather we lynch risk.nuke. If I had to choose three, I'd say risk.nuke, mattchew or gumshoe.
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